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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2015 4:17:43 GMT
Hey everyone,
What do we want to see in the Spider-Man reboot?
For me, what I'm really hoping for is they go for an original villian this time around. Marvel influence or not, another cinematic iteration is going to have it's naysayers for all sorts of quarters - and even from a general audience, I'm not sure if going in for nostalgia on screen is going to quite cut for a third time around. I do think there going to skip the origin story and have teenage Peter right in the frey, figuring it out, dealing with the guilt of his Uncle's death, lost and alone.
I'd also like to see Aunt May in the Ultimate mould. I love what Bendis did with the character and for me, it's the way to do the character in the twentieth-first century.
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Post by david on Nov 27, 2015 10:42:25 GMT
Hey everyone, What do we want to see in the Spider-Man reboot? For me, what I'm really hoping for is they go for an original villian this time around. Marvel influence or not, another cinematic iteration is going to have it's naysayers for all sorts of quarters - and even from a general audience, I'm not sure if going in for nostalgia on screen is going to quite cut for a third time around. I do think there going to skip the origin story and have teenage Peter right in the frey, figuring it out, dealing with the guilt of his Uncle's death, lost and alone. I'd also like to see Aunt May in the Ultimate mould. I love what Bendis did with the character and for me, it's the way to do the character in the twentieth-first century. I think casting Aunt May with Marisa Tomei says they're defo going more Ultimates than anything else. Quite a big chunk of the MCU has come from Ultimates so it's a strong possibility. Hey, if they keep making these for a decade or two, they could even adapt the last Peter arc and introduce Miles Morales but that's for wayyyy down the line. I think adapting an arc like Coming Home makes sense. I'd pick that one. With the MCU about to go a bit mystical, having Ezekiel in the movie wouldn't be too out there. Just a shame that Venom and The Night Gwen Stacy Died have been done so recently as they're legendary comics given piss poor adaptations.
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Post by randomjc on Nov 27, 2015 12:28:21 GMT
For my reboot. Have Pete actually care about Uncle Ben's death. Also none of that "my parents" whiney crap.
I an surprisingly still bitter about ASM2.
Otherwise I trust Fiege to at least make something entertaining.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Nov 27, 2015 13:08:59 GMT
I gave up on the Spiderman movies - bad casting and writing have hurt them, and rebooting every few years doesn't allow the time to plan out a good story. Personally, I think Spiderman should be shelved for a good long while and brought back once the lackluster movies that have been released have faded into memory.
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Post by mrfuggleboppins on Nov 28, 2015 0:09:20 GMT
Something different from the Sony films (which I love except for Spider-Man 3, and portions of ASM2, although there is a lot to like in there).
Some villains we haven't seen on film before and the Sinister Six (as Sony intended to get onto.) Try to avoid returning to old villains with new actors.
I like the idea of J K Simmons returning to J Jonah Jameson, but the guy's 60 and balding (and would have been 46 when he first played the part), so I wouldn't be against a new actor.
I want Tom Holland to be very cute and to act like a nerdy, science obsessed teenager, actually acts like a teenager, is awkward about girls and doesn't feel like he fits in. I liked Andrew Garfield and his awkwardness, I wasn't against the skateboarding part either, but nerd is in his DNA.
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Post by christmastrenzalore on Dec 1, 2015 22:10:11 GMT
Whatever the new films become totally/thematically, I want them to hit the ground running. Start in the middle of Peter's story. No damn origin story, bar some Incredible Hulk style opening sequence, because that horse has been atomized.
Villains and friends are already running around out there. Maybe the Goblin stuff with Gwen has already gone down. Maybe he's tried it on with Black Cat, and now they're just friends with a romantic history.
In fact (again like the Incredible Hulk), if they could treat the Raimi films (and to a lesser extent the Webb films) as soft continuity, I reckon starting in the middle of the story would go down just great with general audiences.
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Post by omega on Dec 2, 2015 0:31:55 GMT
The Ultimate Carnage story arc. In that, Curt Conners uses Peter's blood as part of a biological experiment that gets loose and sucks the life out of anyone it comes across. It's got fractured access to Peter's memories and goes to his house in confusion, encountering Gwen Stacey (who is living with Peter and Aunt May because her father was killed a while earlier). It's a far more simple take on the character of Carnage than the original.
This could eventually lead into the Ultimate Clone Saga, much shorter and less convoluted than the original. The Fantastic Four would have to be excluded from the adaptation, but that role could be taken by one or more of the Avengers. It's another chance to use Samuel L Jackson's Nick Fury.
If Venom is used, I'd like to see the Ultimate version of the character. This version of Venom is a botched attempt at a cure for cancer by Peter's father, and introduces Eddie Brock Jr. to the Ultimate universe.
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Post by randomjc on Dec 2, 2015 2:21:33 GMT
The Ultimate Carnage story arc. In that, Curt Conners uses Peter's blood as part of a biological experiment that gets loose and sucks the life out of anyone it comes across. It's got fractured access to Peter's memories and goes to his house in confusion, encountering Gwen Stacey (who is living with Peter and Aunt May because her father was killed a while earlier). It's a far more simple take on the character of Carnage than the original. This could eventually lead into the Ultimate Clone Saga, much shorter and less convoluted than the original. The Fantastic Four would have to be excluded from the adaptation, but that role could be taken by one or more of the Avengers. It's another chance to use Samuel L Jackson's Nick Fury. If Venom is used, I'd like to see the Ultimate version of the character. This version of Venom is a botched attempt at a cure for cancer by Peter's father, and introduces Eddie Brock Jr. to the Ultimate universe. Let us not forget what happens to ultimate carnage.
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Post by omega on Dec 2, 2015 2:31:23 GMT
The Ultimate Carnage story arc. In that, Curt Conners uses Peter's blood as part of a biological experiment that gets loose and sucks the life out of anyone it comes across. It's got fractured access to Peter's memories and goes to his house in confusion, encountering Gwen Stacey (who is living with Peter and Aunt May because her father was killed a while earlier). It's a far more simple take on the character of Carnage than the original. This could eventually lead into the Ultimate Clone Saga, much shorter and less convoluted than the original. The Fantastic Four would have to be excluded from the adaptation, but that role could be taken by one or more of the Avengers. It's another chance to use Samuel L Jackson's Nick Fury. If Venom is used, I'd like to see the Ultimate version of the character. This version of Venom is a botched attempt at a cure for cancer by Peter's father, and introduces Eddie Brock Jr. to the Ultimate universe. Let us not forget what happens to ultimate carnage. He gets thrown into a nuclear reactor or something. They don't have to adapt the War of the Symbiotes arc.
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Post by randomjc on Dec 2, 2015 14:26:24 GMT
Let us not forget what happens to ultimate carnage. He gets thrown into a nuclear reactor or something. They don't have to adapt the War of the Symbiotes arc. Yeah...but that is trippy stuff. I like Trippy. And since this is a High School Peter...again, I doubt he's been superheroing enough to build up a wide array of villains, and Carnage is not a good lead off villain.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 6, 2016 14:58:59 GMT
The main character grow up and mature a little (but not completely - Peter Parker still needs the wise-cracks) over time Harry Potter-style Spider-Man become an Avenger No origin story in any shape or form - forget Uncle Ben Peter Parker's job as a photographer for the Daily Bugle feature more prominently His relationship with other students at school (again similar to Harry Potter), maybe have someone in the school find out he is Spider-Man and deliberately set out to provoke him Spider-Man/Guardians of the Galaxy crossover
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Post by Timelord007 on Jan 6, 2016 21:44:19 GMT
Hopefully Spider-man.
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Post by omega on Jan 6, 2016 22:53:10 GMT
No Green Goblin or great secret regarding the background of Peter or his parents. Also no origin story, even those who don't read the comics are likely to be familiar with it.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 6, 2016 22:54:38 GMT
No Green Goblin or great secret regarding the background of Peter or his parents. Also no origin story, even those who don't read the comics are likely to be familiar with it. i disagree about Green Goblin. He doesn't necessarily have to be in the first film but he has to appear at some point given he is to Spider-Man what the Daleks are to the Doctor.
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Post by christmastrenzalore on Jan 6, 2016 23:37:25 GMT
I have a soft spot for Shocker, but I reckon the Spot, with his dimensional powers, would be a great villain to attempt on screen, even if he is a little obscure. EDIT: I know Spider-man films have been stigmatized in the past for having too many villains (I don't think its inherently a bad thing, or the route of the problems of either the third Raimi film or Amzing 2), but I really wouldn't mind if they dropped a bunch in. I like when Spider-man has to use his wits against multiple foes. They just have to treat it more like a Kung-fu film, or Die Hard. A central villain, with mini-bosses along the way. And the Spider-man villains are colourful and bombastic enough that they can give a strong impression of who they are quite quickly. Maybe a sense of implied history, but nothing that's essential to understand the main story at hand. Kind of like Finn and his soldier buddie's backstory for The Force Awakens.
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Post by randomjc on Jan 7, 2016 2:17:23 GMT
No Green Goblin or great secret regarding the background of Peter or his parents. Also no origin story, even those who don't read the comics are likely to be familiar with it. i disagree about Green Goblin. He doesn't necessarily have to be in the first film but he has to appear at some point given he is to Spider-Man what the Daleks are to the Doctor. Doc Ock may disagree with you there. He is older than the Green Goblin, and proven far more deadly.
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Post by grazey on Jan 7, 2016 10:38:11 GMT
No origin: it's been done already twice. Anybody with at least a casual interest should know the story by now. If not point them in direction of spiderman or amazing Spiderman No green goblin at least for a decade: we have seen it twice I don't think audiences want it again so soon Some new villains not yet seen on screen A new venom J.k Simmons back. Don't care about his age its jk and he is awesome at whatever he does
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Post by randomjc on Jan 7, 2016 12:58:36 GMT
No origin: it's been done already twice. Anybody with at least a casual interest should know the story by now. If not point them in direction of spiderman or amazing Spiderman No green goblin at least for a decade: we have seen it twice I don't think audiences want it again so soon Some new villains not yet seen on screen A new venom J.k Simmons back. Don't care about his age its jk and he is awesome at whatever he does No one can deny that JK is JJ.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 7, 2016 15:18:30 GMT
No origin: it's been done already twice. Anybody with at least a casual interest should know the story by now. If not point them in direction of spiderman or amazing Spiderman No green goblin at least for a decade: we have seen it twice I don't think audiences want it again so soon Some new villains not yet seen on screen A new venom J.k Simmons back. Don't care about his age its jk and he is awesome at whatever he does No one can deny that JK is JJ. Yeah, they should definitely bring him back. The Sam Raimi films pretty much got the casting spot-on IMO.
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Post by kurumais on Jan 11, 2016 21:00:39 GMT
i think garfield is a good actor and he did some good things in his 2 films, but he did just sit right with me. one of the things was he came across, at least to me, as an A hole when he was trying to be funny. when i read spidey and he is making all those jokes he " sounds" gofy and funny. i just didnt get that from garfield i want the new kid to have better comic timing. spidey should be fun despite all the darkness and violence around him.
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