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Post by nucleusofswarm on Oct 19, 2019 9:21:59 GMT
Might as well go for three.
The stories where we meet our rather irked reptilian predescessors, and the Doctor struggles to secure peace. But is Hulke's 7 better than Malcy's 6?
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 19, 2019 10:15:31 GMT
Well, this might not be the most popular opinion... but I liked the Sea Devils more than I liked the Silurians. Yes, the Silurians might have the deeper and more mature plot. And it is also played far more seriously. However, I just LOVE Jo and the Master, and the Sea Devils is a treasure trove for showcasing both Jo and the Master. Delgado is wonderful in this!! For me, he is even better than Pertwee here. Sea Devils is more light hearted, it is more comic-style storytelling, it has more humour and it is just more fun.
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Post by mark687 on Oct 19, 2019 11:16:38 GMT
Might as well go for three.
The stories where we our rather irked reptilian predescessors, and the Doctor struggles to secure peace. But is Hulke's 7 better than Mac's 4?
Macs 6 surely?
Definitely Sea Devils just for the Part 2 Ending alone!, but honestly pacing design, characters everything's just better.
Regards
mark687
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Post by Timelord007 on Oct 19, 2019 11:49:03 GMT
Silurians or Sea Devils, i couldn't possibly choose as they are two of my favourite stories of the Pertwee era along with Inferno & Terror Of The Autons.
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Oct 19, 2019 12:29:01 GMT
Silurians is a lot more layered and sophisticated. Sea Devils is just a fun romp - not that that's a bad thing, mind!
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Oct 19, 2019 13:24:10 GMT
Sea Devils for me as it was the first one i saw.
They are both great stories, buts Delgado's Master edges it forward
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Post by masterdoctor on Oct 19, 2019 14:20:45 GMT
Sea Devils for me as it is a very fun story and while it isn’t as layered in its story as Silurians, I feel that Sea Devils has the better characters and acting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 17:35:51 GMT
Whoahh - knife edge vote here, and I am not talking about today's commons debate. Bar the Silurian costumes and Pinky & Perky voices, the former is one of the most 'Adult' Drama of Classic Who - what else from Season 7 after all? But like others, the Sea Devils is just quintessential Pertwee Who and one of his most entertaining and dynamic tales, production and casting wise. Delgado really proves himself a co-lead here and not merely a supporting guest villain. So much charm that you can appreciate how he managed to take control of his captors will. And indeed we all feel relieved that he escapes to fight (play) another day. And it has Jabba the Hut...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2019 21:05:21 GMT
Gonna go with the Sea Devils in this one... The Sea Devils is one of my favourite Third Doctor stories; I loved it as a kid and I still love it now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 9:38:53 GMT
Oof... It's a touch choice. I find The Sea Devils extremely watchable. It's probably Malcolm Hulke's strongest plotted six-parter, nothing is superfluous and the characters all feel engaged with the ongoing story. Plus, we get the novelty of an Earthbound story without UNIT. While the Master's villainy is front-and-centre for the first half, the titular creatures still make their presence well-known. The exploration of the sea fort feels ripped straight from a cosmic horror story and there's a great sense of adventure to the proceedings.
The Silurians, on the other hand, is a fascinating story to analyse. Far from the escapism of its successor, it's firmly rooted in complex themes and discussions that are still ongoing today. The titular people themselves are fascinating in how their society's formed, their expectations, even the costume is something I don't think Who's ever been able to quite replicate since. If you want to create a story with dark themes, there's one simple avenue you can take -- everyone makes mistakes. The plot of Hulke's seven-parter is about the alarming fallibility of human and reptile kind.
Between the two, it's The Sea Devils for me. I find The Silurians is just a bit too real at the moment.
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Post by Whovitt on Oct 20, 2019 10:17:02 GMT
I think everyone else has already explained the reasons why this is a difficult choice far more eloquently than I could. I think I'd have to go for The Silurians over The Sea Devils though. For me, The Sea Devils isn't as much of a fun romp as most of you say it is. It's something I've really got to be in the right mood for, otherwise I can find it to be a real drag. The Silurians, however, is one of my go-to stories if I want to watch some Doctor Who and have some spare time on my hands (I refuse to not watch Classic Series stories in a single sitting unless absolutely necessary, with the only exceptions being The Daleks' Master Plan and The Trail of a Time Lord, which I usually only watch pieces of anyway). I've always found it to be one of the most instantly enjoyable stories ever made, and it never feels like it goes for just shy of three hours. I just love it
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