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Post by IndieMacUser on Nov 26, 2019 23:09:07 GMT
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Post by tuigirl on Feb 7, 2020 20:16:06 GMT
Anyone has gotten this yet? I am contemplating getting this, but looking for recommendations first.
And I would get the audio book. The author reading her own work- this already worked beautifully with Scratchman.
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Post by shutupbanks on Feb 7, 2020 22:43:08 GMT
Sophie was the guest author on last week’s Penguin Podcast (alas, no Frobisher) where she spoke at length about the novel and her time on Doctor Who.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2020 23:10:34 GMT
Sophie was the guest author on last week’s Penguin Podcast (alas, no Frobisher) where she spoke at length about the novel and her time on Doctor Who. Thanks for the heads up. I'll give that a listen.
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Post by denyer97 on Feb 8, 2020 13:05:34 GMT
A really, proper great read! Loved every page! I would really like to see a continuation of Ace’s adventures, either in novel form or like this book shows, she would fit perfectly into the 21st century Whoniverse on screen too. If I had any complaints it would be that, unless I missed something, it makes her big finish post doctor adventures in Gallifrey and Dark Universe a little redundant, a shame considering they were released in the same month. Alas, strongly recommend, you don’t want to miss it!
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Feb 8, 2020 22:56:49 GMT
2/3 of the way in and I’m enjoying it, Sophie’s got a lovely “voice” as a writer (if you will), captures the Fam well (AND gives Yaz something to do! Former juvenile delinquent meets trainee copper, tension mounts!). There some lovely tension between Ace and the Doctor, Dorothy expecting the Doctor to still be manipulating everything and the Doctor deeply regretful of her actions as seven but, because she’s thirteen, unable to articulate that clearly. I do like the hints of what Dorothy got up to after leaving rhe Doctor - it’s basically Hart-to-Hart but with aliens. Interestingly it does tie in nicely with what’s going on ATM on screen with Yaz: {Spoiler} Yaz realises that she’s just one of many people the Doctor has traveled with and this makes her feel “not special” which leads to her actions in “Praxeus”.
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Post by stcoop on Feb 8, 2020 23:26:32 GMT
2/3 of the way in and I’m enjoying it, Sophie’s got a lovely “voice” as a writer
Hate to break to you but she didn't write it any more than Tom Baker wrote Scratchman. She plotted it but it was written by Mike Tucker and Steve Cole.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 9, 2020 1:40:04 GMT
2/3 of the way in and I’m enjoying it, Sophie’s got a lovely “voice” as a writer
Hate to break to you but she didn't write it any more than Tom Baker wrote Scratchman. She plotted it but it was written by Mike Tucker and Steve Cole.
Actually on Scratchman, you're wrong. Baker indeed wrote it, with Goss himself saying he was part of an elaborate misdirection and serving more of an editorial position.
and from the krikketman's mouth
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Feb 9, 2020 2:23:06 GMT
2/3 of the way in and I’m enjoying it, Sophie’s got a lovely “voice” as a writer
Hate to break to you but she didn't write it any more than Tom Baker wrote Scratchman. She plotted it but it was written by Mike Tucker and Steve Cole.
Have you read it? theres a “voice” there that is neither Tucker nor Cole, you can hear Tucker clearly in the 1990s section and Cole in all the lovely obscure Who references (HELLO DEVESHAM!) and the aliens.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 2:58:55 GMT
So what's the truth of this I wonder? Ghost written novels seem to me the preserve of the likes of Katie Price. Sophie Aldred will be getting a lot of interrogation from fans about the novel and will need an Authors insight to carry any discussion.
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Post by constonks on Feb 9, 2020 4:24:24 GMT
Hate to break to you but she didn't write it any more than Tom Baker wrote Scratchman. She plotted it but it was written by Mike Tucker and Steve Cole.
Actually on Scratchman, you're wrong. Baker indeed wrote it, with Goss himself saying he was part of an elaborate misdirection and serving more of an editorial position. and from the krikketman's mouth
James Goss definitely did some work on it - he's credited on the inside cover of the book.
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Post by denyer97 on Feb 9, 2020 7:28:34 GMT
The recent Penguin Podcast with Sophie talking to Katy Brand gives some good insight into Cole & Tucker’s contribution to the novel so I’d suggest giving that a listen.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Feb 9, 2020 7:34:43 GMT
Hate to break to you but she didn't write it any more than Tom Baker wrote Scratchman. She plotted it but it was written by Mike Tucker and Steve Cole.
Actually on Scratchman, you're wrong. Baker indeed wrote it, with Goss himself saying he was part of an elaborate misdirection and serving more of an editorial position.
and from the krikketman's mouth
Tom Baker also co-wrote the original script and has written short fiction before, I believe, so him writing a novel isn't some absurd idea.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 9:26:05 GMT
So what's the truth of this I wonder? Ghost written novels seem to me the preserve of the likes of Katie Price. Sophie Aldred will be getting a lot of interrogation from fans about the novel and will need an Authors insight to carry any discussion. Well seeing as we have only had one person post a comment claiming (with no evidence) that Sophie didn't write it I will take what is said on Penguin Books' website as my guide in respect of authorship, "Written by Sophie Aldred with Steve Cole and Mike Tucker Storyline by Sophie Aldred, Steve Cole and Mike Tucker Text copyright © Sophie Aldred 2020".
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Post by tuigirl on Feb 9, 2020 11:43:10 GMT
So what's the truth of this I wonder? Ghost written novels seem to me the preserve of the likes of Katie Price. Sophie Aldred will be getting a lot of interrogation from fans about the novel and will need an Authors insight to carry any discussion. Well seeing as we have only had one person post a comment claiming (with no evidence) that Sophie didn't write it I will take what is said on Penguin Books' website as my guide in respect of authorship, "Written by Sophie Aldred with Steve Cole and Mike Tucker Storyline by Sophie Aldred, Steve Cole and Mike Tucker Text copyright © Sophie Aldred 2020". So they wrote it together? What is wrong getting help from some experienced writers if you have some great ideas and want them published? As long as the book is good? And so far, the reviews are pointing towards this being good.
I definitely put it on my wish list.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 12:36:15 GMT
Well seeing as we have only had one person post a comment claiming (with no evidence) that Sophie didn't write it I will take what is said on Penguin Books' website as my guide in respect of authorship, "Written by Sophie Aldred with Steve Cole and Mike Tucker Storyline by Sophie Aldred, Steve Cole and Mike Tucker Text copyright © Sophie Aldred 2020". So they wrote it together? What is wrong getting help from some experienced writers if you have some great ideas and want them published? As long as the book is good? And so far, the reviews are pointing towards this being good.
I definitely put it on my wish list.
Also the book writing process isn't simply an author writes a book then it gets published, book editors review the draft, make edits etc
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Post by tuigirl on Feb 9, 2020 15:48:55 GMT
So they wrote it together? What is wrong getting help from some experienced writers if you have some great ideas and want them published? As long as the book is good? And so far, the reviews are pointing towards this being good.
I definitely put it on my wish list.
Also the book writing process isn't simply an author writes a book then it gets published, book editors review the draft, make edits etc Exactly.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Feb 9, 2020 16:04:51 GMT
Cole and Tucker have writing credits, which means that they were involved in more than simply planning and editing. But Aldred owns the copyright on the text - that means that either Cole and Tucker were already contracted to the publisher and their work on the book was considered part of their ongoing work for the publisher, or that their contributions were significantly less than Aldred's, or that they were working directly for her and not for the publisher.
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Post by tuigirl on Feb 13, 2020 19:06:51 GMT
Well, this got very good reviews so far... so I caved in and got the audio book. To be added to my audio backlog....
But this sounds at least promising and I am sure Sophie will do this justice in the reading.
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Post by project37 on Feb 20, 2020 0:41:50 GMT
Cole and Tucker have writing credits, which means that they were involved in more than simply planning and editing. But Aldred owns the copyright on the text - that means that either Cole and Tucker were already contracted to the publisher and their work on the book was considered part of their ongoing work for the publisher, or that their contributions were significantly less than Aldred's, or that they were working directly for her and not for the publisher. I'm speculating that everyone involved knew full well that Sophie's name as author would get the book much more attention. Speaking for myself, I'd have been much less inclined to check it out if it was strictly credited to Cole and/or Tucker. Sophie's name in huge letters on the cover made it irresistible for me.
Audible sent me a "we miss you, have some free audiobooks" e-mail, so I jumped on this right away. I'm only about 4 chapters in, but I'm really enjoying the story and Sophie's performance so far. Love the little nods to her television stories and the little sound design choices (such as the stormy weather and changing the voice treatment for phone calls) are...well...Ace!
The Doctor hasn't entered the story yet, but based on Sophie's take on Jodie for "Secret of Vault 13", I'm really looking forward to it.
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