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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jul 7, 2020 12:25:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2020 12:42:34 GMT
Labour are watching the government, as the Loyal Opposition should, and they want to be the alternative government-in-waiting, so we should be watching them, so it counts! Nope. It doesn't count. So you're wrong. This is an interesting thread. If you don't agree whole-heartedly with this poster's copy-and-pastes, you're shouted down and subsequently ignored. No chance of a discussion here. Good luck anyway!
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jul 7, 2020 13:55:06 GMT
Nope. It doesn't count. So you're wrong. This is an interesting thread. If you don't agree whole-heartedly with this poster's copy-and-pastes, you're shouted down and subsequently ignored. No chance of a discussion here. Good luck anyway! Not sure that is correct. But thanks for the wishes of good luck.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jul 8, 2020 8:42:27 GMT
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 8, 2020 10:03:35 GMT
Regardless of whether ones likes/dislikes Cummings, or agrees/disagrees with his views, it seems to me that Cummings is going around ruffling so many feathers and making so many enemies that his current role and position will not be sustainable in the longer term and he will end up damaging Johnston.
If Cummings locks horns with the military top brass it is a gift for Labour. It allows them to attack Boris and Dom which goes down well with the left but at the same time, by lining up with the military top brass, it makes them look strong and trustworthy on defence and appeals to more centre and right leaning voters.
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Post by sherlock on Jul 8, 2020 10:59:28 GMT
It seems Cummings was actually invited by the MOD to do this, so it’s less Cummings on manoeuvres and more the military trying to butter him up.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jul 8, 2020 12:14:22 GMT
It seems Cummings was actually invited by the MOD to do this, so it’s less Cummings on manoeuvres and more the military trying to butter him up. It all gets more confusing! Especially after Mark Francois' threat to the armed forces.
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 8, 2020 13:16:33 GMT
I see the government is offering a furlough bonus of £1,000 to employers who keep previously furloughed staff employed until January
Unless I'm missing something, this really makes no sense at all. A low paid, part-time worker that cost their employer £1,000 a month to employ will cost £3,000 to employ from November to January. If the employee is destined for redundancy, then £1,000 is not a big enough incentive to postpone the redundancy for 3 months as it will still mean a net cost of £2,000 for the employer.
Instead the money will go to reward a lot of employers who were never going to make their employees redundant in the first place. So we are ending up with an incentive scheme intended to promote a course of action that unnecessarily rewards employers who were going to follow that course anyway, but fails to change the behaviour of those who were not going to follow it in the first place. Be interested to read what the National Audit Office says about it in a few months/years time.
Maybe I've misunderstood the scheme
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jul 9, 2020 8:22:08 GMT
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Post by number13 on Jul 9, 2020 11:01:31 GMT
Jim Hacker, Yes Minister: 'The left say he's a secret CIA agent! The right say he's a secret KGB agent!'
And the answer to the rhetorical(?) question is of course, in all probability, spring 2024. Best to put the kettle on and find a good book.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jul 10, 2020 10:31:16 GMT
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lidar2
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 10, 2020 10:44:41 GMT
I do wonder about chlorinated chicken. As anyone who reads my posts will know, I am very anti-brexit, but I can't help but wonder if we in the UK/EU are a bit hysterical about chlorinated chicken?
I mean, if everyone in America eats it and there's no public health crisis resulting, can it really be all that bad? Are we just being manipulated though the media by our own agri-food industry, who just want to keep out cheaper competition? If chlorine's good enough for the swimming pool - and a lot of us imbibe some of it there - is it not good enough for chicken? How many of the people in the media and politics who are so opposed to it could actually provide a convincing scientific explanation as to why it is a bad thig?
I freely admit I am no scientist and know nothing about the whole subject, so I am quite happy to be set straight by those more knowledgeable than myself.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jul 10, 2020 11:01:43 GMT
I do wonder about chlorinated chicken. As anyone who reads my posts will know, I am very anti-brexit, but I can't help but wonder if we in the UK/EU are a bit hysterical about chlorinated chicken?
I mean, if everyone in America eats it and there's no public health crisis resulting, can it really be all that bad? Are we just being manipulated though the media by our own agri-food industry, who just want to keep out cheaper competition? If chlorine's good enough for the swimming pool - and a lot of us imbibe some of it there - is it not good enough for chicken? How many of the people in the media and politics who are so opposed to it could actually provide a convincing scientific explanation as to why it is a bad thig?
I freely admit I am no scientist and know nothing about the whole subject, so I am quite happy to be set straight by those more knowledgeable than myself.
Chlorine in swimming pools is not a good comparison. One of the concerns with chlorinated chicken is that it is used to compensate for poor hygiene conditions earlier in the supply chain.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jul 11, 2020 8:05:04 GMT
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Post by sherlock on Jul 15, 2020 17:14:32 GMT
Upset on the Intelligence and Security Committee as Number 10’s choice Chris Grayling failed to be elected Chair. Instead, by the sounds of it, opposition MPs and Tory Julian Lewis voted Lewis in as the chairman.
For those waiting on the Russia Report, this might be good news-
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Post by doctorkernow on Jul 17, 2020 11:32:40 GMT
Hello again.
Thank goodness common sense prevailed. I would not trust Failing Grayling to run a drunken party in a brewery.
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 17, 2020 12:06:40 GMT
Hello again. Thank goodness common sense prevailed. I would not trust Failing Grayling to run a drunken party in a brewery. As one online wit put it, only failing Grayling could manage to lose a rigged election
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Post by sherlock on Jul 21, 2020 10:22:31 GMT
The Russia Report is out. From my reading, there’s no smoking gun of any sort here. It’s mainly criticising the poor intelligence response to Russian interference, entrenched presence of Russian oligarchs in the UK, potential financial links to members of the House of Lords and general inability to pin down who is responsible for protecting the democratic process from foreign interference. It’s got some legislative recommendations and suggests the intelligence community look into potential interference in the EU referendum (which apparently no one has actually thought to do in past four years).
Not good for the Government, but it’s far from the silver bullet a lot of the campaigners for its release have seemingly hoped it would be.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jul 21, 2020 10:44:03 GMT
The Russia Report is out. From my reading, there’s no smoking gun of any sort here. It’s mainly criticising the poor intelligence response to Russian interference, entrenched presence of Russian oligarchs in the UK, potential financial links to members of the House of Lords and general inability to pin down who is responsible for protecting the democratic process from foreign interference. It’s got some legislative recommendations and suggests the intelligence community look into potential interference in the EU referendum (which apparently no one has actually thought to do in past four years). Not good for the Government, but it’s far from the silver bullet a lot of the campaigners for its release have seemingly hoped it would be. Interesting reading. For many reasons...
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Post by sherlock on Jul 21, 2020 11:00:53 GMT
Oh and the Government’s now responded, deciding that there’s no need to retrospectively investigate interference in the EU referendum and they’ve got no evidence of it (probably because they haven’t looked for any...)
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