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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Aug 26, 2020 7:15:45 GMT
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Aug 26, 2020 14:29:18 GMT
Permanent Sec at Dept of Education has stood down over exams fiasco, but the Education Secretary remains in office.
This government is trashing the British constitution
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Post by sherlock on Aug 26, 2020 15:12:37 GMT
On the funnier side, the background of Johnson’s speech in a school library today has some gems in it. Prominent books displayed on the shelf behind him include The Subtle Knife, Fahrenheit 451, Betrayed, The Resistance, The Toll and Roald Dahl’s The Twits. A librarian may have seen Johnson coming...
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Post by number13 on Aug 27, 2020 0:56:42 GMT
On the funnier side, the background of Johnson’s speech in a school library today has some gems in it. Prominent books displayed on the shelf behind him include The Subtle Knife, Fahrenheit 451, Betrayed, The Resistance, The Toll and Roald Dahl’s The Twits. A librarian may have seen Johnson coming...
Just for fun, let me point out that also on the shelves immediately behind him is 'The Lord of the Rings'... in which of course a gallant band of heroes from the Shire and the West win freedom from the malign Power a little way to the East which wants to control the lives of everyone forever....
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Aug 27, 2020 6:31:36 GMT
On the funnier side, the background of Johnson’s speech in a school library today has some gems in it. Prominent books displayed on the shelf behind him include The Subtle Knife, Fahrenheit 451, Betrayed, The Resistance, The Toll and Roald Dahl’s The Twits. A librarian may have seen Johnson coming...
Just for fun, let me point out that also on the shelves immediately behind him is 'The Lord of the Rings'... in which of course a gallant band of heroes from the Shire and the West win freedom from the malign Power a little way to the East which wants to control the lives of everyone forever.... Pure fantasy of course
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Post by sherlock on Aug 27, 2020 11:20:08 GMT
On the funnier side, the background of Johnson’s speech in a school library today has some gems in it. Prominent books displayed on the shelf behind him include The Subtle Knife, Fahrenheit 451, Betrayed, The Resistance, The Toll and Roald Dahl’s The Twits. A librarian may have seen Johnson coming...
Just for fun, let me point out that also on the shelves immediately behind him is 'The Lord of the Rings'... in which of course a gallant band of heroes from the Shire and the West win freedom from the malign Power a little way to the East which wants to control the lives of everyone forever.... Also encountering a ruler completely bewitched by his Chief Advisor...
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Post by number13 on Aug 27, 2020 12:01:35 GMT
Just for fun, let me point out that also on the shelves immediately behind him is 'The Lord of the Rings'... in which of course a gallant band of heroes from the Shire and the West win freedom from the malign Power a little way to the East which wants to control the lives of everyone forever.... Also encountering a ruler completely bewitched by his Chief Advisor...
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Post by number13 on Aug 27, 2020 13:52:36 GMT
On the funnier side, the background of Johnson’s speech in a school library today has some gems in it. Prominent books displayed on the shelf behind him include The Subtle Knife, Fahrenheit 451, Betrayed, The Resistance, The Toll and Roald Dahl’s The Twits. A librarian may have seen Johnson coming... Nothing is ever quite so good as we think it is...
Although they weren't an accident, apparently.
But it does explain the seeming "mystery" of "why" 'Farenheit 451' (a story in favour of free speech and literature, and against censorship) and 'Exodus' (people from an island nation fleeing the aftermath of catastrophic global warming) when a certain PM is famously pro-free speech and books (some people think he's sometimes been a bit too fond of free speech ), and the UK leads the industrialised world in decarbonisation with all the main parties signed-up to action on climate change.
Now if they were all arranged thus in an American library, well...
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Post by sherlock on Aug 27, 2020 14:02:17 GMT
On the funnier side, the background of Johnson’s speech in a school library today has some gems in it. Prominent books displayed on the shelf behind him include The Subtle Knife, Fahrenheit 451, Betrayed, The Resistance, The Toll and Roald Dahl’s The Twits. A librarian may have seen Johnson coming... Nothing is ever quite so good as we think it is...
Although they weren't an accident, apparently.
But it does explain the seeming "mystery" of "why" 'Farenheit 451' (a story in favour of free speech and literature, and against censorship) and 'Exodus' (people from an island nation fleeing the aftermath of catastrophic global warming) when a certain PM is famously pro-free speech and books (some people think he's sometimes been a bit too fond of free speech ), and the UK leads the industrialised world in decarbonisation with all the main parties signed-up to action on climate change.
Now if they were all arranged thus in an American library, well... Ah truth is often stranger than fiction. I hope the senior management got the message 😂 In the meantime, Johnson’s aides should probably pay a bit more attention to the backgrounds of his speech in future.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2020 16:26:10 GMT
Meanwhile in other news Boris is on a recruitment drive for the SNP in Scotland today, telling Scots they are "too wee, too poor or too stupid" (Ian Blackford) to have coped with covid-19 had they been independent English public opinion is swinging. Scotland’s becoming viewed as an irritancy by many and an ingrate by others. Let them go I say. 😉
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Sept 9, 2020 22:18:51 GMT
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Post by number13 on Sept 10, 2020 12:11:37 GMT
It's a cunning Boris plan to win over the British hard Left by saving us from "Selling the NHS to the Yanks" and "Chlorinated Chicken".
After all, it's the far Left who don't want a trade deal with the U.S. and have always been deeply anti-American to the point of prejudice, regardless of who the President is. So they should be cheering today!
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Sept 10, 2020 12:57:36 GMT
It's a cunning Boris plan to win over the British hard Left by saving us from "Selling the NHS to the Yanks" and "Chlorinated Chicken".
After all, it's the far Left who don't want a trade deal with the U.S. and have always been deeply anti-American to the point of prejudice, regardless of who the President is. So they should be cheering today!
It's not just the far left who don't want a trade deal with the U.S. & I won't be cheering as this is the first example of how our government's actions are seen on the world stage.
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Post by number13 on Sept 10, 2020 13:22:06 GMT
It's a cunning Boris plan to win over the British hard Left by saving us from "Selling the NHS to the Yanks" and "Chlorinated Chicken".
After all, it's the far Left who don't want a trade deal with the U.S. and have always been deeply anti-American to the point of prejudice, regardless of who the President is. So they should be cheering today!
It's not just the far left who don't want a trade deal with the U.S. & I won't be cheering as this is the first example of how our government's actions are seen on the world stage. Perhaps I should have headed my post ***JOKE ALERT*** ?
I don't think there are many British people not on the far Left who fear and dislike the U.S. as they do. Maybe a few ultra-Imperialists still sore about the loss of the Colonies after 250 years?
But really, what rational person would be opposed to EVERY possible trade deal with the U.S. - or with most other countries ? Negotiating the right trade deals that maintain or raise standards and bring benefits to both countries, surely that's the matter for debate. (And that's where the importance of sticking to agreements already signed comes in to it, in practical terms.)
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Sept 10, 2020 13:32:05 GMT
It's not just the far left who don't want a trade deal with the U.S. & I won't be cheering as this is the first example of how our government's actions are seen on the world stage. Perhaps I should have headed my post ***JOKE ALERT*** ?
I don't think there are many British people not on the far Left who fear and dislike the U.S. as they do. Maybe a few ultra-Imperialists still sore about the loss of the Colonies after 250 years?
But really, what rational person would be opposed to EVERY possible trade deal with the U.S. - or with most other countries ? Negotiating the right trade deals, surely that's the matter for debate. (And that's where the importance of sticking to agreements already signed comes in to it.)
The fear is us becoming a vassal state of the US. Remember when we were told countries would be lining up to do trade deals with us? Where are they? We would need some pretty good new deals to supplant the 48% of our exports that currently go to the EU.
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Post by number13 on Sept 10, 2020 13:49:39 GMT
Perhaps I should have headed my post ***JOKE ALERT*** ?
I don't think there are many British people not on the far Left who fear and dislike the U.S. as they do. Maybe a few ultra-Imperialists still sore about the loss of the Colonies after 250 years?
But really, what rational person would be opposed to EVERY possible trade deal with the U.S. - or with most other countries ? Negotiating the right trade deals, surely that's the matter for debate. (And that's where the importance of sticking to agreements already signed comes in to it.)
The fear is us becoming a vassal state of the US. Remember when we were told countries would be lining up to do trade deals with us? Where are they? We would need some pretty good new deals to supplant the 48% of our exports that currently go to the EU. Oh dear... we aren't going to stop exporting to the E.U., or the E.U. to us, whatever happens. Similarly we already have huge amounts of trade both ways between the U.K. and U.S.
A good trade deal helps trade between countries, it isn't (usually) required to enable it.
It is telling that the people who fear us becoming a 'vassal state' of the U.S. never appreciate there are other people who thought we were already a 'vassal state' of the E.U. (and vice versa.)
I don't agree with either view and as you might guess I firmly believe in the benefits of Free Trade (which was the primary reason I voted Remain, despite the protectionist aspects of the E.U.; intra-E.U. trade outweighed them) and very much hope we can agree good deals as widely as possible. Once the politicing dies down a bit, and that's not going to happen (re the U.S.) this side of November 3rd is it? After that the world will hopefully get back to more normal times, in one way at least!
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Sept 10, 2020 16:15:54 GMT
The fear is us becoming a vassal state of the US. Remember when we were told countries would be lining up to do trade deals with us? Where are they? We would need some pretty good new deals to supplant the 48% of our exports that currently go to the EU. Oh dear... we aren't going to stop exporting to the E.U., or the E.U. to us, whatever happens. Similarly we already have huge amounts of trade both ways between the U.K. and U.S.
A good trade deal helps trade between countries, it isn't (usually) required to enable it.
It is telling that the people who fear us becoming a 'vassal state' of the U.S. never appreciate there are other people who thought we were already a 'vassal state' of the E.U. (and vice versa.)
I don't agree with either view and as you might guess I firmly believe in the benefits of Free Trade (which was the primary reason I voted Remain, despite the protectionist aspects of the E.U.; intra-E.U. trade outweighed them) and very much hope we can agree good deals as widely as possible. Once the politicing dies down a bit, and that's not going to happen (re the U.S.) this side of November 3rd is it? After that the world will hopefully get back to more normal times, in one way at least!
I do appreciate that there are other people who thought we were already a 'vassal state' of the E.U. When did I suggest otherwise?
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Post by number13 on Sept 10, 2020 22:07:52 GMT
Oh dear... we aren't going to stop exporting to the E.U., or the E.U. to us, whatever happens. Similarly we already have huge amounts of trade both ways between the U.K. and U.S.
A good trade deal helps trade between countries, it isn't (usually) required to enable it.
It is telling that the people who fear us becoming a 'vassal state' of the U.S. never appreciate there are other people who thought we were already a 'vassal state' of the E.U. (and vice versa.)
I don't agree with either view and as you might guess I firmly believe in the benefits of Free Trade (which was the primary reason I voted Remain, despite the protectionist aspects of the E.U.; intra-E.U. trade outweighed them) and very much hope we can agree good deals as widely as possible. Once the politicing dies down a bit, and that's not going to happen (re the U.S.) this side of November 3rd is it? After that the world will hopefully get back to more normal times, in one way at least!
I do appreciate that there are other people who thought we were already a 'vassal state' of the E.U. When did I suggest otherwise? Excellent. Then perhaps you could help me to understand what I never have, namely why a trade deal with the U.S. would put us in a state of vassalage but our former E.U. membership did not, even though in both cases we would/did have to abide by agreed common standards/regulation at some level? Would a post-Brexit trade deal with the E.U. make us a 'vassal state' of the E.U.? (For clarity, I don't think that any of them did/would, assuming they are negotiated fairly.)
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Sept 10, 2020 22:29:47 GMT
I do appreciate that there are other people who thought we were already a 'vassal state' of the E.U. When did I suggest otherwise? Excellent. Then perhaps you could help me to understand what I never have, namely why a trade deal with the U.S. would put us in a state of vassalage but our former E.U. membership did not, even though in both cases we would/did have to abide by agreed common standards/regulation at some level? Would a post-Brexit trade deal with the E.U. make us a 'vassal state' of the E.U.? (For clarity, I don't think that any of them did/would, assuming they are negotiated fairly.) Perhaps I could. But I don't want to.
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Post by number13 on Sept 11, 2020 13:21:10 GMT
U.K. - Japan free trade deal agreed.
A major economic power which clearly has confidence in signing international agreements with the U.K. and with whom we were able to negotiate a mutually beneficial deal very quickly. Of course it replaces & builds on the extensive E.U. - Japan deal we were previously part of, which is presumably why it was possible to agree it in such a short time.
I believe we also had an extensive existing trade deal with another major economic power so this might be a good example for them to follow...
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