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Post by timegirl on Jan 29, 2020 21:17:44 GMT
If they have not already it could be interesting to have one of the Doctors ( not sure which would be best) meet the famed Yorkshire supposed witch and prophetess Mother Shipton. It could interesting either as pure historical showing her as more human and less a legendary figure or do a story where she accurately predicts an event maybe to do with aliens and either the Doctor is skeptical or the only one to believe her. Also it would be interesting to incorporate the cave where she lived because anything left in the cave actually turns to stone!
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Post by frisby78 on Jan 29, 2020 21:19:33 GMT
Has DW ever done Jack the Ripper? In passing. Jago And Litefoot got caught up with him in The Wax Princess in Series 7....then Madame Vastra apparently ate Jack just before his introduction in A Good Man Goes To War. How did she find him? "Stringy" I guess the issue with Jack in Who is...you need to have hookers and that's not too BBC 7pm! This is true. Maybe audio or novel over TV.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 21:22:18 GMT
Has DW ever done Jack the Ripper? In passing. Jago And Litefoot got caught up with him in The Wax Princess in Series 7....then Madame Vastra apparently ate Jack just before his introduction in A Good Man Goes To War. How did she find him? "Stringy" I guess the issue with Jack in Who is...you need to have hookers and that's not too BBC 7pm! Nor is a real life serial killer, & the claim that his victims were all prostitutes is debatable.
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Post by frisby78 on Jan 29, 2020 21:28:01 GMT
In passing. Jago And Litefoot got caught up with him in The Wax Princess in Series 7....then Madame Vastra apparently ate Jack just before his introduction in A Good Man Goes To War. How did she find him? "Stringy" I guess the issue with Jack in Who is...you need to have hookers and that's not too BBC 7pm! Nor is a real life serial killer, & the claim that his victims were all prostitutes is debatable. Well I've the 5 definitely killed by Jack at least 3 were definitely prostitutes. Maybe the Doctor could team up with Inspector Abberline?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 21:45:36 GMT
Nor is a real life serial killer, & the claim that his victims were all prostitutes is debatable. Well I've the 5 definitely killed by Jack at least 3 were definitely prostitutes. Maybe the Doctor could team up with Inspector Abberline? Well your post has summed up why I loathe all this fascination with Jack the Ripper, he is named but the victims aren't, just faceless victims. What next? 13 goes back to the early 80s to meet Dennis Nilsen? Anyway at risk of derailing this thread all I will say is those interested in the lives of Polly, Annie, Elizabeth, Catherine & Mary-Jane rather than ghoulish conspiracy theories about a man who should be consigned to history's dustbin, should read The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper by Hallie Rubenhold.
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Post by mark687 on Jan 29, 2020 21:51:11 GMT
Has DW ever done Jack the Ripper? Depends on what you count as Cannon There's a rather good BBC 7th Doc and Ace Novel called Matrix where the Valeyard assumes his identity Regards mark687
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Post by frisby78 on Jan 29, 2020 21:55:36 GMT
Well I've the 5 definitely killed by Jack at least 3 were definitely prostitutes. Maybe the Doctor could team up with Inspector Abberline? Well your post has summed up why I loathe all this fascination with Jack the Ripper, he is named but the victims aren't, just faceless victims. What next? 13 goes back to the early 80s to meet Dennis Nilsen? Anyway at risk of derailing this thread all I will say is those interested in the lives of Polly, Annie, Elizabeth, Catherine & Mary-Jane rather than ghoulish conspiracy theories about a man who should be consigned to history's dustbin, should read The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper by Hallie Rubenhold. Yes I knew the names thank you. If we use your argument we wouldn't have stories about Hitler or Churchill for that matter who was a mass murderer.
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Post by number13 on Jan 29, 2020 22:47:12 GMT
Well your post has summed up why I loathe all this fascination with Jack the Ripper, he is named but the victims aren't, just faceless victims. What next? 13 goes back to the early 80s to meet Dennis Nilsen? Anyway at risk of derailing this thread all I will say is those interested in the lives of Polly, Annie, Elizabeth, Catherine & Mary-Jane rather than ghoulish conspiracy theories about a man who should be consigned to history's dustbin, should read The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper by Hallie Rubenhold. Yes I knew the names thank you. If we use your argument we wouldn't have stories about Hitler or Churchill for that matter who was a mass murderer. Here we go again... Well done on linking their names like that (it really is deeply offensive imo, especially after last week.)
On topic: for once I agree with JHD. That particular horror has been done ad infinitum and with so many interesting people in our past, the Doctor can do much better.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 23:14:32 GMT
I really don't see too much of an issue with Who doing the Ripper, not on TV, granted, but on audio? Sure. Especially since BF have already done the Burke & Hare affair which they managed to give an original spin on and that's certainly been done to death too with everyone from Karloff and Lugosi to Simon Pegg and John Landis having a go at it. With J&L already doing Jack though, it's kinda been done. It wouldn't be top of my list, or anywhere near it, but I don't have an issue with the principle of doing so. As with everything it's the execution of the drama that I'd be concerned about rather than the concept. If someone has an original and interesting idea...fine. If not, that's fine too. I'll rewatch Time After Time.
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Post by frisby78 on Jan 30, 2020 0:17:32 GMT
Yes I knew the names thank you. If we use your argument we wouldn't have stories about Hitler or Churchill for that matter who was a mass murderer. Here we go again... Well done on linking their names like that (it really is deeply offensive imo, especially after last week.)
On topic: for once I agree with JHD. That particular horror has been done ad infinitum and with so many interesting people in our past, the Doctor can do much better.
Sorry if I've offended you, but it is historical fact as sad as that is.
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Post by frisby78 on Jan 30, 2020 0:18:07 GMT
I really don't see too much of an issue with Who doing the Ripper, not on TV, granted, but on audio? Sure. Especially since BF have already done the Burke & Hare affair which they managed to give an original spin on and that's certainly been done to death too with everyone from Karloff and Lugosi to Simon Pegg and John Landis having a go at it. With J&L already doing Jack though, it's kinda been done. It wouldn't be top of my list, or anywhere near it, but I don't have an issue with the principle of doing so. As with everything it's the execution of the drama that I'd be concerned about rather than the concept. If someone has an original and interesting idea...fine. If not, that's fine too. I'll rewatch Time After Time. I love Time After Time!
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Post by number13 on Jan 30, 2020 0:59:45 GMT
I really don't see too much of an issue with Who doing the Ripper, not on TV, granted, but on audio? Sure. Especially since BF have already done the Burke & Hare affair which they managed to give an original spin on and that's certainly been done to death too with everyone from Karloff and Lugosi to Simon Pegg and John Landis having a go at it. With J&L already doing Jack though, it's kinda been done. It wouldn't be top of my list, or anywhere near it, but I don't have an issue with the principle of doing so. As with everything it's the execution of the drama that I'd be concerned about rather than the concept. If someone has an original and interesting idea...fine. If not, that's fine too. I'll rewatch Time After Time. 'Medicinal Purposes' is really underrated imo, I like all three Robert Ross stories come to that. With B&H it's the scientific motivation of their paymasters which makes the story interesting, I think, and gave RR the 'angle' to take the story somewhere new with Dr. Knox's plans and still based on the historical facts. Great cast too!
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Post by frisby78 on Jan 30, 2020 1:06:57 GMT
If they have not already it could be interesting to have one of the Doctors ( not sure which would be best) meet the famed Yorkshire supposed witch and prophetess Mother Shipton. It could interesting either as pure historical showing her as more human and less a legendary figure or do a story where she accurately predicts an event maybe to do with aliens and either the Doctor is skeptical or the only one to believe her. Also it would be interesting to incorporate the cave where she lived because anything left in the cave actually turns to stone! Now that's a grand idea!!
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Post by number13 on Jan 30, 2020 2:06:34 GMT
If they have not already it could be interesting to have one of the Doctors ( not sure which would be best) meet the famed Yorkshire supposed witch and prophetess Mother Shipton. It could interesting either as pure historical showing her as more human and less a legendary figure or do a story where she accurately predicts an event maybe to do with aliens and either the Doctor is skeptical or the only one to believe her. Also it would be interesting to incorporate the cave where she lived because anything left in the cave actually turns to stone! That would be fun. Most of the famous 'prophecies' were much later inventions of course, but as far as I know she wasn't persecuted and had a long 'career' so she must presumably have been valued locally as a 'wise woman' or whatever and that would make her an interesting local ally for the Doctor if something strange kicked off in the area. Yes, it is true about her cave isn't it! Science may say it's down to minerals dissolved in the water but quite possibly the Doctor could find another, more interesting, explanation...
'Calciphages!' 'Calci whatnot?' 'Calciphages. Infiltrate their surroundings with living stone and spread their minds through the crystalline matrix.' 'Fascinating. A bio-molecular mineralised hybrid? We had something similar in hot springs on Traken, in a very primitive form of course.' 'Very possibly. Perhaps if I could take a sample...' 'Look, if you two bio-minerologists haven't noticed, she - it's still growing and it's starting to come this way - fast! Can you hold off on your lab session until we're back in the TARDIS?!' 'Ah, yes, Tegan, you may have a point. All of you - run!'
(I am of course imagining Five, Nyssa and Tegan - pursued by what was Mother Shipton - legging it at speed along a lane towards the TARDIS. Naturally they would save her by the end of the story, but not before a lot of twists and turns and three good cliffhangers!)
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Post by timegirl on Jan 30, 2020 2:08:34 GMT
If they have not already it could be interesting to have one of the Doctors ( not sure which would be best) meet the famed Yorkshire supposed witch and prophetess Mother Shipton. It could interesting either as pure historical showing her as more human and less a legendary figure or do a story where she accurately predicts an event maybe to do with aliens and either the Doctor is skeptical or the only one to believe her. Also it would be interesting to incorporate the cave where she lived because anything left in the cave actually turns to stone! That would be fun. Most of the famous 'prophecies' were much later inventions of course, but as far as I know she wasn't persecuted and had a long 'career' so she must presumably have been valued locally as a 'wise woman' or whatever and that would make her an interesting local ally for the Doctor if something strange kicked off in the area. Yes, it is true about her cave isn't it! Science may say it's down to minerals dissolved in the water but quite possibly the Doctor could find another, more interesting, explanation...
'Calciphages!' 'Calci whatnot?' 'Calciphages. Infiltrate their surroundings with living stone and spread their minds through the crystalline matrix.' 'Fascinating. A bio-molecular mineralised hybrid? We had something similar in hot springs on Traken, in a very primitive form of course.' 'Very possibly. Perhaps if I could take a sample...' 'Look, if you two bio-minerologists haven't noticed, she - it's still growing and it's starting to come this way - fast! Can you hold off on your lab session until we're back in the TARDIS?!' 'Ah, yes, Tegan, you may have a point. All of you - run!'
(I am of course imagining Five, Nyssa and Tegan - pursued by what was Mother Shipton - legging it at speed along a lane towards the TARDIS. Naturally they would save her by the end of the story, but not before a lot of twists and turns and three good cliffhangers!) I want to hear that story now!😄😀
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 8:12:42 GMT
Stalin Mao Confuscious Christ well am sure that’s TIMELOCKED🤪😂
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Post by doctorkernow on Feb 2, 2020 14:18:13 GMT
Hello again.
Now here's a controversial one for you. A season containing two stories. One dealing with Guy Fawkes and the reasons for him wanting to blow up Parliament and King James I as played by Alan Cumming. Perhaps ending with a trip to Bridgwater Carnival which celebrates the failure of the plot.
Followed by a trip to Brighton ostensibly for a paddle. The TARDIS crew find themselves embroiled in the Brighton Hotel bombing of the Tory conference in 1984.
Mrs Thatcher was a complicated character and there is much scope for the Doctor to debate her actions and their effect on ordinary people. However, it is the similarity between the Gunpowder Plot and the Brighton bombing that would drive this. After all, this attempt to destroy HM Government nearly succeeded.
You would need a double episode and I think it would be interesting to have one companion try to stop the bombing but realising that history cannot be altered. Perhaps though, this is just too modern and the politics too raw to cover in a family sci-fi series.
Having the Doctor meet a political figure so divisive and recent as Thatcher would also cause huge problems. Sorry, I'll get my coat..
I do think that a meet with a musician would be a good idea. There have been some great ideas already. I think the whole glam rock era would be fun. Bowie and Bolan. Or maybe Empress of the Blues, Bessie Smith.
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Post by grinch on Feb 4, 2020 17:40:12 GMT
Edward Lear: Best known for his nonsense poetry in particular the poem ‘The Owl and the Pussycat’
Hieronymus Bosch: What adventures inspired such works as The Garden of Earthly Delights?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2020 17:48:28 GMT
Mary Seacole
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Post by fitzoliverj on Feb 4, 2020 18:13:56 GMT
She's in "The Twelfth Doctor Chronicles" right nowish.
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