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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 17:28:03 GMT
Curious who would be interested in a Tipple Master boxset if Big Finish released one? Truth is he's a blank slate... As long as at some point he betrays the Daleks... As usual.
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Post by cwm on Feb 29, 2020 17:45:11 GMT
I really doubt there would be the market for a full boxset, but certainly I would be interested in hearing him reprise the role for BF. (I wonder if they tried to get him for Masterful.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 17:58:07 GMT
That's the question isn't it? I think yeah start with a random appearance, and then go from there... But he is full of mystery for sure!
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Post by Digi on Feb 29, 2020 18:10:54 GMT
I wouldn't rule out buying it, but I can't say the idea particularly excites me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 18:17:34 GMT
For me personally, it's all about using the actor while they are alive... Every moment wasted is a chance down the drain
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 18:26:50 GMT
If I'm honest I completely blanked on where in the grand scheme of things Tipple's Master was when I read your post..and now that I've reminded myself I'd have to say that right now it would probably be a 'Not Interested' to your question.
I do reserve the option to change my mind in the future though..😊
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Post by antartiks on Feb 29, 2020 18:49:33 GMT
I absolutely don't care but I wouldn't be against it I guess given how well Big Finish usually writes for the multiple incarnations of the Master. But why go with a blank slate when they already have their own creation with Alex "Hello You" MacQueen ?
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Post by commonman on Feb 29, 2020 23:43:39 GMT
I wish they did. I doubt he would come to the UK for that but if Gomez and Roberts can record in the US then I have no doubt Tipple could in Canada.
From what i remember of Leekley's first drafts of the TV movie (i think it was in "the nth doctor" reference book) it was a retelling of Genesis of the Daleks where the Master kills Davros to build his own race of Daleks: the spider Daleks. Of course, the draft was so vastly different from the finished product that Leekley was not credited and not even the novelisation was that detailed on the trial part. I think the script drafts also had something going on with the Pyramids of Egypt, I wonder if Beevers' tardis being found inside one in the Masermind comapnion chronicle was a reference to it?
Sadly, this is the storyline of the War Master 4 so I don't know what they would do with that. Iguess the whole, Romana trying a peace treaty under the Act of Master Restitution (RTD phrasing) could be told as a sort of crossover with the Gallifrey range?
On the other hand, the actor seems to be fond of his participation in the movie considering his interview for DWM a few years back. His interview was much more interesting than Roberts' one in that issue.
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Post by sherlock on Feb 29, 2020 23:51:22 GMT
I’d be interested. Another take on the Master would be fine, and the gap between Survival and the TV Movie hasn’t been touched on since Master so in terms of Big Finish it’s quite open.
Dunno if it’s really enough for a whole boxset, but a story detailing how the Time Lords made a deal with the Daleks to hand him over (presumably intended as some kind of peace offering post-The Apocalypse Element) and how the Daleks caught up with him (I think Mastermind implies it was in ancient Egypt, as his TARDIS with Dalek weapon scorch marks was found by UNIT in the Valley of the Kings) could be interesting.
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Post by CookieMaster on Mar 3, 2020 9:50:16 GMT
I can't see him getting a box set, but I'd jump at the chance to explore the pre-TV Movie Master era.
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Post by lidar2 on Mar 3, 2020 10:47:28 GMT
I think there's definitely scope for more Master stories between Survival and the TV movie and not just the lead-in to the TV Movie (although that would be nice)
At the risk of being heretical, I see no particular reason why the Tipple Master needs to be played by Mr Tipple himself. Let's face it, Tipple only did a "blink-and-you'll-miss-it" cameo, can you even hear any dialogue?. As audio is not a visual medium I don't think it really matters who plays the pre-TV movie Master so long as they are good.
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Post by cwm on Mar 3, 2020 11:12:22 GMT
I think there's definitely scope for more Master stories between Survival and the TV movie and not just the lead-in to the TV Movie (although that would be nice) At the risk of being heretical, I see no particular reason why the Tipple Master needs to be played by Mr Tipple himself. Let's face it, Tipple only did a "blink-and-you'll-miss-it" cameo, can you even hear any dialogue?. As audio is not a visual medium I don't think it really matters who plays the pre-TV movie Master so long as they are good. Tipple originally recorded the opening monologue, which is why he gets a credit - you can find it on YouTube if you go looking.
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Post by lidar2 on Mar 3, 2020 11:35:30 GMT
I think there's definitely scope for more Master stories between Survival and the TV movie and not just the lead-in to the TV Movie (although that would be nice) At the risk of being heretical, I see no particular reason why the Tipple Master needs to be played by Mr Tipple himself. Let's face it, Tipple only did a "blink-and-you'll-miss-it" cameo, can you even hear any dialogue?. As audio is not a visual medium I don't think it really matters who plays the pre-TV movie Master so long as they are good. Tipple originally recorded the opening monologue, which is why he gets a credit - you can find it on YouTube if you go looking. But it was replaced by McGann doing the narration in the final version - so that doesn't really count. To me Tipple's appearance counts, since it can be seen, but the sound of his voice doesn't since it is never heard.
The sound of Tipple's voice has the same non-canon status as the Declan Mulholland version of Jabba the Hutt
EDIT - Having said all that, I have nothing whatsoever against Tipple playing the Master if he is willing and able to reprise the role for BF. I just don't think it's really necessary in the audio medium given that Tipple's voice has never been heard in anything canonical
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Post by pawntake on Mar 3, 2020 11:45:14 GMT
I am all in favour of a tipple while listening to a BF Boxset.Preferably red wine. Ok!! i am leaving!!
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Post by Digi on Mar 3, 2020 12:03:10 GMT
Didn’t one of the Big Finish folks say a few months back that they basically count the ‘Tipple Master’ as the final appearance of the Tremas Master?
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Post by CookieMaster on Mar 3, 2020 12:43:02 GMT
Didn’t one of the Big Finish folks say a few months back that they basically count the ‘Tipple Master’ as the final appearance of the Tremas Master? I think that would probably come into conflict with 'Dust Breeding', a bit of a shame if someone from Big Finish is suggesting that.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Mar 3, 2020 13:13:06 GMT
No. Simple and to the point. no.
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Post by project37 on Mar 3, 2020 14:00:38 GMT
I listened to that "lost monologue" and if it's indeed real, then I'm sorry to say that I personally found that particular performance to be completely underwhelming.
It'd be interesting to see how far the designers could take this image for the artwork.
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Post by CookieMaster on Mar 3, 2020 14:52:49 GMT
I would suggest that having Tipple playing the Master in the traditional sense probably doesn't play to his strengths.
He mentioned once in an interview with DWM that he enjoyed playing the victim of grisly deaths. Look at his work in X Files and Outer Limits, and you'll probably find very good examples of this.
I'd say, let him spend most of the story as human character, good or bad, only to fall foul of the Master's new Deathworm ability. I think that would be right up his street.
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Post by cwm on Mar 3, 2020 19:08:59 GMT
I listened to that "lost monologue" and if it's indeed real, then I'm sorry to say that I personally found that particular performance to be completely underwhelming.
It'd be interesting to see how far the designers could take this image for the artwork.
Other on-set pictures were uncovered, IIRC for DWM's special issue for the 20th anniversary of the TVM...
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