Post by nucleusofswarm on Jun 12, 2021 9:54:06 GMT
I also think (and hope) that the BBC doesn't take much notice of complaining hardcore 'fans' - who will always complain, no matter what. I remember when there was a similar situation with lacklustre ratings and a more vocal arena for whiners - it was during the mid/late Eighties. I just hope the BBC don't just think Doctor Who is too much trouble to continue making. As iainmclaughlin says, ratings and lack of merchandise sales will be their biggest concerns (I wasn't aware of the latter). If they think changing the gender of Doctor 14 will improve those things, then I can see that consideration taking precedence over a few whinging YouTubers (who are, let's face it, the equivalent of the fanzine writers of yesteryear). It's all about the general audience, the enigmatic 'casual viewer', who provide the lifeblood for Doctor Who's continued existence on the television.
I'm not convinced the BBC are as aware of the whining from certain areas as the rest of fandom is. I don't think the hardcore fans are that big a deal to them. They're more interested in the general potentrial audience, and I would be surprised if they weren't deeply concerned about the drop in audience and the tanking of merch sales. The BBC could easily say we've had two female Doctors in a row - Jodie Whitaker and Jo Martin... part of me thinks they'll cast another woman, part of me realises I genuinely haven't got a clue what they'll do.
I genuinely don't know. I don't think casting a woman has been the problem. I think either casting the wrong woman or not getting the writing/characterisation/focus right for her is the problem. This is all just my opinion obviously but I don't think Jodie Whitaker has the presence needed for the role. The Doctor should be where the audience's eyes go in a scene. I think JW gets lost in the crowd and my eyes were more drawn to to Bradley Walsh who tended to be more interesting. But I'm getting off topic. And that is all just my opinion and I know it's one many people disagree.
I'm pretty sure I could make an argument against casting a man being "caving in" but it's a depressing thought that people would see casting a man as a win for anything. I just think he's the best performer for the gig at this time. I genuinely haven't got a clue what's going to happen.
I think this has turned into a ramble...
I agree with the last part, absolutely. However, in an age where everything is so interconnected, it's unwise to not be conscious of platforms that help drive and foster engagement with whatever your property is. Like I've said before, the difference between the angry fans in the 80s and the ones today is the 80s guys were angry on their own penny - they didn't make money out of saying Colin or Syl suck. Now you can be perfomatively angry, gain thousands of views and get money, cash, dosh, wonga, green, out of telling a gullible audience that Jodie is some kind of pawn of a dark force (not that she just isn't good, but that she out do do some manner of harm).
I feel like, not drag this out much more as this thread is about S13 and not a thread on state of fandom, to hit home how not 'harmless' these guys are, and how they are nothing like the whinging fanzine writers of old, here's a video by Youtuber Marzgurl on a similar phenomena within the anime community. A lot of is applicable to what has been going here for the last four/five years: www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2ydqYxIw6E