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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 16:28:58 GMT
How many of the spin off films do you all have? Recommendations?
Only dvd I have is Downtime.
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Post by Digi on Mar 7, 2020 17:46:01 GMT
Spin-off films of what?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 18:25:56 GMT
Since Sega mentions Downtime, then it'd be Doctor Who spinoffs! Wrong section though which, for anyone not up on their ancillary material (shame!), could lead to confusion. I've got most of the BBV and Reeltime spinoffs up through the years, right up to this weeks bluray of The White Witch Of Devil's End which is VERY highly recommended, especially as a companion piece to both The Daemons and The Return To Devil's End documentary. I can't imagine when filming that in the early 90s Damaris thought she'd still be playing Olive Hawthorn pushing into her own 90s! It's even lower budget than most spinoffs in that it's a lot of Alan Bennett (or Jackanory, if you prefer!) monologues relaying her stories..but she's great and they're wonderful tales for Daemon-heads. Wartime is fun for John Levene thinking he's in something a lot grander than a fanfilm (it was made while classic Who was still on). I think The Stranger and PROBE series are a good first jumping on point for anyone getting into spinoffs. Mindgame (the original) has some fun bits too while "The Trilogy" is hit and miss. Then of course recently we got Sil's film which was fun. Next year Reeltime are releasing Anomaly with Beverly Crossman returning as the "original" Kate Stewart *, which is a sequel to Downtime and Dæmos Rising with a grownup Gordon (Brig's grandson) as the lead. * Chibnall always says he had no idea that Downtime already gave the Brig a daughter called Kate. Hmm.... |
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Post by Digi on Mar 7, 2020 18:42:08 GMT
Since Sega mentions Downtime, then it'd be Doctor Who spinoffs! Wrong section though which, for anyone not up on their ancillary material (shame!), could lead to confusion.I've got most of the BBV and Reeltime spinoffs up through the years, right up to this weeks bluray of The White Witch Of Devil's End which is VERY highly recommended, especially as a companion piece to both The Daemons and The Return To Devil's End documentary. I can't imagine when filming that in the early 90s Damaris thought she'd still be playing Olive Hawthorn pushing into her own 90s! It's even lower budget than most spinoffs in that it's a lot of Alan Bennett (or Jackanory, if you prefer!) monologues relaying her stories..but she's great and they're wonderful tales for Daemon-heads. Wartime is fun for John Levene thinking he's in something a lot grander than a fanfilm (it was made while classic Who was still on). I think The Stranger and PROBE series are a good first jumping on point for anyone getting into spinoffs. Mindgame (the original) has some fun bits too while "The Trilogy" is hit and miss. Then of course recently we got Sil's film which was fun. Next year Reeltime are releasing Anomaly with Beverly Crossman returning as the "original" Kate Stewart *, which is a sequel to Downtime and Dæmos Rising with a grownup Gordon (Brig's grandson) as the lead. * Chibnall always says he had no idea that Downtime already gave the Brig a daughter called Kate. Hmm.... Oh! Yes that would include me then  Thank you for the clarification! I'll punt it over to the DW area. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 23:31:30 GMT
Since Sega mentions Downtime, then it'd be Doctor Who spinoffs! Wrong section though which, for anyone not up on their ancillary material (shame!), could lead to confusion.I've got most of the BBV and Reeltime spinoffs up through the years, right up to this weeks bluray of The White Witch Of Devil's End which is VERY highly recommended, especially as a companion piece to both The Daemons and The Return To Devil's End documentary. I can't imagine when filming that in the early 90s Damaris thought she'd still be playing Olive Hawthorn pushing into her own 90s! It's even lower budget than most spinoffs in that it's a lot of Alan Bennett (or Jackanory, if you prefer!) monologues relaying her stories..but she's great and they're wonderful tales for Daemon-heads. Wartime is fun for John Levene thinking he's in something a lot grander than a fanfilm (it was made while classic Who was still on). I think The Stranger and PROBE series are a good first jumping on point for anyone getting into spinoffs. Mindgame (the original) has some fun bits too while "The Trilogy" is hit and miss. Then of course recently we got Sil's film which was fun. Next year Reeltime are releasing Anomaly with Beverly Crossman returning as the "original" Kate Stewart *, which is a sequel to Downtime and Dæmos Rising with a grownup Gordon (Brig's grandson) as the lead. * Chibnall always says he had no idea that Downtime already gave the Brig a daughter called Kate. Hmm.... Oh! Yes that would include me then Thank you for the clarification! I'll punt it over to the DW area. Yes, thanks! And the "shame" comment was intended in a more humorous way than it comes off reading it back!  If anyone has plenty of Who left to discover them, I envy them rather than shame them! |
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Post by Whovitt on Mar 8, 2020 0:22:26 GMT
There was a time a couple of years ago when some of these 90's films were available on YouTube and I watched Wartime, Downtime, and Shakedown: Return of the Sontarans. If I'm being honest, I was gritting my teeth through the majority of all three because everything about them was really cheap. I honestly didn't have a clue what was going on in Wartime, and Downtime was determined to bring back way too many characters while shoving too many meta-jokes down your throat. I'll admit that Shakedown wasn't so bad in comparison (and the depiction of a Sontaran/Rutan confrontation was actually done very well), but I knew just about every cast member from some of their other work and seeing them all in different Doctor Who contexts was a bit jarring. Having said all that, I would watch them all again. I didn't know what I was getting into when I first watched them and I think I judged them very harshly because of it. I've been eyeing up various DVD/Blu-ray releases for these for a while and this thread has reignited my interest in actually getting them, so excuse me while I go and have a little peruse online  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 1:18:51 GMT
There was a time a couple of years ago when some of these 90's films were available on YouTube and I watched Wartime, Downtime, and Shakedown: Return of the Sontarans. If I'm being honest, I was gritting my teeth through the majority of all three because everything about them was really cheap. I honestly didn't have a clue what was going on in Wartime, and Downtime was determined to bring back way too many characters while shoving too many meta-jokes down you throat. I'll admit that Shakedown wasn't so bad in comparison (and the depiction of a Sontaran/Rutan confrontation was actually done very well), but I knew just about every cast member from some of their other work and seeing them all in different Doctor Who contexts was a bit jarring. Having said all that, I would watch them all again. I didn't know what I was getting into when I first watched them and I think I judged them very harshly because of it. I've been eyeing up various DVD/Blu-ray releases for these for a while and this thread has reignited my interest in actually getting them, so excuse me while I go and have a little peruse online Yeah, Wartime I think is best approached as a filmed Companion Chronicle more than anything else. Part of an adventure, like The Jigsaw War or similar, rather than the whole story in full. It's got some nice character development for Benton and Michael Wisher's presence is always welcome. It's not clarified, but I think whatever he was facing out in the woods was a side-effect of the jeep's cargo. It makes a nice spiritual predecessor to Auton, which uses its confined settings for a good base-under-siege. I'm not entirely unconvinced that the Warehouse isn't an early predecessor of the Black Archive mentioned in The Sarah Jane Adventures or a successor to the Vault from The Scales of Injustice. Lockwood and Sal make for a good team and it tries something new with the Nestenes. Shakedown is worth purchasing alongside the re-release of its book novelisation, I think. I read the first act, watched the video and finished up on the third act. It's got a good polish to it and the Sontarans are well-characterised in a way that makes them distinctive, but not jarringly so for a clone species. It has my favourite depiction of a Rutan as well, they put a lot of work into making it a genuinely ethereal presence. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Carole Ann Ford's my pick for the voice of the Rutan Queen if they ever do an audio adaptation. I enjoyed Downtime a lot, but I think it's one of those stories that benefits from repeated viewings. Out of all the productions, I think it was probably the closest to feeling like what Doctor Who could have looked like in the 1990s (with the Brigadier occupying a rather Doctor-ish role). Everyone gets at least one really great moment. My favourite has to be Sarah charging down the gunman in the power room. Another hand for The White Witch of Devil's End and Mindgame, but I'd recommend the Mindgame Trilogy for Miles Richardson's turn as the Draconian Commander. It's brilliant. Essentially a one-man play and he does it beautifully. He's the Draconian's Draconian. It's almost a shame given his ultimate fate, though in light of his companions, he might have gotten off easy... I think the best of The Stranger and PROBE, if you're looking for specifics, are In Memory Alone/ The Terror Game and The Devil of Winterborne. The first of the former is a quiet Sapphire and Steel-style mystery (throw in a few TARDIS scenes and it's ol' Sixie and Peri between seasons), the latter is almost like an AU!Doctor Who where the schism between the Time Lords on Gallifrey and their Renegades got so bad that the Renegades militarised (there are echoes of Faction Paradox there in their motives too). The latter, Winterborne, follows Liz Shaw in something not entirely unlike The X-Files. Peter Davison has a brilliant turn as the headmaster of the school. It's a very good showing of his range and it's written by Mark Gatiss. |
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Post by Whovitt on Mar 8, 2020 2:44:43 GMT
I don't suppose anyone's seen that really weird sounding Zygon one? I remember reading the wiki plot summary when I was about 15-16... Can definitely say I wasn't expecting what I read...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 3:41:33 GMT
After I posted this I realized I should have made the title more obvious lol.
I've heard of almost all the spin offs, but it's darn near impossible to know them all lol.
I've seen a good chunk of the Zygon one... Most of the spin off films are on Dailymotion I think.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 9:09:23 GMT
I don't suppose anyone's seen that really weird sounding Zygon one? I remember reading the wiki plot summary when I was about 15-16... Can definitely say I wasn't expecting what I read... When Being You Just Isn't Enough? That was...something. Some have said Torchwood was RTD's way of doing Doctor Who as his own erotic fantasy fuel. I think you can say that much more of When Being You Just Isn't Enough. Lance Parkin was apparently horrified with what they'd done with his script. The rather amazing thing about it is that a Zygon film with full frontal nudity, serial killers and swearing sounds like it musta been out in the 90s when they thought the teen-younger adult boy audience for Who was all there was...it came out in 2008 during Tennant's last full series.  |
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Post by frisby78 on Mar 8, 2020 22:35:04 GMT
Shakedown - Not Bad.
Downtime- Not bad despite Nick Courtney being the only one trying to act.
Wartime- Am dram level with a dreadful performance by Levene.
Mindgame Trilogy-Not bad
However the standout for me was The Stranger series.
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Post by Hieronymus on Mar 8, 2020 22:46:39 GMT
I own Downtime and Shakedown on casette.
I have all three films from the Auton series on DVD.
I have the two Dalek films starring Peter Cushing on DVD.
And depending on what counts as a "spin-off", I also have K-9 & Co., The Curse of Fatal Death, Scream of the Shalka, and the two animated specials made with David Tennant.
The first Auton film had the smallest budget of the three, but is the creepiest of that series (if a bit weird sometimes). Downtime exists; its appeal lies in its nostalgia. I'm probably a bigger fan of Shakedown than the average viewer because I always found the Rutans fascinating and underused.
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Post by Tim Bradley on Jun 2, 2020 17:51:55 GMT
Hello everyone! I've just seen 'The Zero Imperative', the first episode of the 'P.R.O.B.E' series with Caroline John as Liz Shaw. Goodness, cripes, yikes! I've no idea what I just watched! Need to watch it again! Tim. |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jun 2, 2020 19:32:48 GMT
I own Downtime and Wartime on DVD Wartime signed by John Levene |
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jun 2, 2020 20:20:33 GMT
Hello everyone! I've just seen 'The Zero Imperative', the first episode of the 'P.R.O.B.E' series with Caroline John as Liz Shaw. Goodness, cripes, yikes! I've no idea what I just watched! Need to watch it again! Talking of PROBE, it's back! In pog multimedia franchise form!
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If anyone has plenty of Who left to discover them, I envy them rather than shame them! 
