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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Mar 17, 2020 9:16:02 GMT
London, 1945. Winston Churchill campaigns for re-election. His new strategic adviser assures him that Britain has a bright future under his continued leadership. It’s a vote he can’t possibly lose. But the Doctor knows that he must.
The Monk is meddling, altering history for his own selfish ends. With spies and aliens in the mix, Winston realises victory may not be so simple. But at least he can trust his old friend... can’t he?
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Post by gregm on Mar 17, 2020 11:20:04 GMT
This one is accompanied, if you're a subscriber, by the Short Trip Not Forgotten, written by Benjamin Holland-Smith, read by Simon Critchlow, and featuring the 6th Doctor and Peri.
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Post by number13 on Mar 17, 2020 13:13:46 GMT
London, 1945. Winston Churchill campaigns for re-election. His new strategic adviser assures him that Britain has a bright future under his continued leadership. It’s a vote he can’t possibly lose. But the Doctor knows that he must.
The Monk is meddling, altering history for his own selfish ends. With spies and aliens in the mix, Winston realises victory may not be so simple. But at least he can trust his old friend... can’t he?
Thanks for doing the thread, can we have a poll please? This is a story partly about elections and politicians, we need a poll.  ( And a swingometer, but I don't think the site does those does it?) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 13:32:11 GMT
Just downloaded it, something else to pass the time during isolation.
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Post by barnabaslives on Mar 17, 2020 14:51:10 GMT
Halfway through and quite enjoyed it. I think I may save the second half for later, if I can. Not easy, it was quite engaging and I'm very curious where this is going. Nice to see Ian McNeice get a starring role here, and Sylvester in fine form again. Many thanks, Big Finish, for some much-needed normalcy.
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Post by fingersmash on Mar 17, 2020 15:25:43 GMT
Quite the story here. I wish the entire trilogy was this good because this story is a true 5/5.
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Post by tuigirl on Mar 17, 2020 18:47:38 GMT
Downloading now. This might be my listening for tonight. In desperate need for some escapism and distraction.
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Post by elkawho on Mar 18, 2020 3:54:17 GMT
That was my favorite 7th Doctor story in a long time, probably since Muse of Fire. Loved every second of it, it seems any story with Rufus Hound's Monk in it is a winner for me. The guest cast was great and I loved every single character. Ian McNiece was great here as a Churchill unsure of himself, and I really liked the villain and the siblings. Sylvester can be uneven but he shined all the way through this one, and I love him when he does.
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Post by barnabaslives on Mar 18, 2020 15:04:48 GMT
Finished the story. Everything good about it held up all the way to the end. Well done, everyone!
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Post by number13 on Mar 18, 2020 16:53:42 GMT
I know it's a trival matter now but in one way this story was a big disappointment to me but not a surprise, because the "historical twist" didn't come as a 'twist' to me, nor was it actually 'historical' in terms of the significance given to it. I guessed months ago that the story would (in 'meddling' terms) rest at least partly on the Monk trying to stop Churchill making his infamous 'Gestapo' comment and since this was flagged up within the first few minutes, no surprise was left in that sense. I expected it because the synopsis hinted strongly at a battle of 'advice' between the Monk and the Doctor, and if the Monk was impersonating a 'spin-doctor' it was the one obvious thing in the Churchill campaign's presentation he would have changed. But historically speaking, although the line was ludicrous and obviously very unhelpful, it wasn't important enough or any more pivotal to the result than all those other supposed 'game-changer' moments in election campaigns that the media gets so excited about and voters quickly forget - unless they're justifying their own established ideas. (British readers: do you remember 'Jennifer's Ear' or 'bigot-gate' - or from very recent months, the 'phone picture' or the 'fridge' moment?) As by-election results showed during the war, by 1945 voters had already made up their collective mind; they wanted radical change and 1945 was one of the great 'change' elections in modern British history. I think we often tend to look at 1945 the wrong way round (because it's him!) It's not so much the election Churchill lost, as the election that Labour's dramatic vision of a new post-war country decisively won; their landslide had been years of careful policy development in the making.
'Harold Saxon'-style telepathic manipulation of people's thoughts on a huge scale is what it would have taken to shift that election result. The Monk couldn't change history, not with one line.
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Post by antartiks on Mar 19, 2020 15:27:14 GMT
This was the best episode of the trilogy I think, immensely enjoyable thanks to performances of Rufus Hound, Ian McNeice and McCoy who was on fine form here. The twists were entertaining and I loved how at the end {Spoiler}
Churchill turned his back on the Seventh Doctor, considering this incarnation to be "not his friend" anymore. This Doctor has a bad track record regarding lasting relationships, hasn't he ? |
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Post by tuigirl on Mar 19, 2020 19:36:53 GMT
I finished this. I liked it. The story is not the most original, but at least I learned something about a historical fact that I had so far no clue about- in my incomplete history of Great Britain, I thought Churchill was Prime Minister until he was replaced by that Thatcher person. I think I was mistaken. Don't worry, I also do not know a lot about historical politics of my own country, so I am in fact a general political ignoramus. So yeah, you learn something new every day.  So while the story itself does not win any awards, this is more than made up for by the interaction of the characters. Churchill, the Monk and 7 work very well together and against each other and the character interplay makes this story really worthwhile. I really enjoyed this, well done! |
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Post by IndieMacUser on Mar 22, 2020 15:05:36 GMT
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Post by shallacatop on Mar 22, 2020 18:02:02 GMT
I thought this was really good. Easily the best of the trilogy and easily the best Seventh Doctor story since Muse of Fire. Quickly paced, the two plots weave together seamlessly with twists and double crossing abound. Rufus Hound is a lot of fun as the Monk, it’s great to see Ian McNeice get a star role opposite a Doctor in Big Finish, after his slight role in Ravenous. Sylvester is on fine form too and I loved the final scene between the Doctor and Churchill.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Mar 31, 2020 9:07:30 GMT
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Post by mark687 on Apr 7, 2020 9:58:24 GMT
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Post by nottenst on Apr 8, 2020 22:58:01 GMT
Just finished it. For a change, due to everyone's current circumstances, I was listening to it at home, doing a virtual commute. Having the pdf script available was quite handy. What was happening at the end of episode 1 was not completely clear, especial what the Doctor said to finish the episode. So, it was great to read that. There were a couple other confusing points where I consulted the script as well. Anyway, I did quite enjoy it and that was the last of my CD subscription from 2015. I am 80% sure I am just going to continue on download from here on out, but haven't made a new order of the main range yet. It was quite a long run - starting from #2. I wonder if they even realize that a bunch of those long subscriptions are finishing right now. |
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Post by Ian McArdell on Apr 9, 2020 9:44:57 GMT
I really enjoyed this: my take now up at CultBox |
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Post by ozmatt on Apr 12, 2020 10:09:15 GMT
I finished this a few hours ago, I quite liked it. Good story :-)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2020 5:56:07 GMT
Really enjoyed it, despite the fact its taken me a week to get through, for some odd reason I kept falling asleep  |
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(And a swingometer, but I don't think the site does those does it?)
