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Post by themeddlingmonk on Sept 16, 2020 18:10:17 GMT
Has anyone else had any trouble downloading this with the app? I think the furthest I’ve gotten was around 6% before it went back to 0%. Nope. It was fine for me.
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Post by Digi on Sept 16, 2020 19:07:01 GMT
Has anyone else had any trouble downloading this with the app? I think the furthest I’ve gotten was around 6% before it went back to 0%. I always find BF downloads slooooowwwwllllyyyy, but it was especially slow this morning. It took nearly 15 minutes to download this.
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Post by Digi on Sept 16, 2020 19:13:44 GMT
Listened to Dreadshade while I was out for a walk just now. Another really enjoyable story. Sometimes there's so much going on it feels like the wheels are starting to come off, but ultimately they don't and I realized that I'm going to really enjoying revisiting. Also a really fabulous tie-in to how the previous boxset ended.
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 16, 2020 19:13:59 GMT
Has anyone else had any trouble downloading this with the app? I think the furthest I’ve gotten was around 6% before it went back to 0%.
Hmm. No problems here.
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Post by melkur on Sept 16, 2020 19:27:34 GMT
I've just started listening to 'Restoration Of The Daleks' and am enjoying the boxset so far.
Edit: Sooooooo, how long until the follow-up is announced?
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 16, 2020 20:50:20 GMT
Started on Palindrome. Wow. This is GOOD. Terry Molloy completely steals the show. He is great.
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Post by karldwilliams on Sept 16, 2020 22:24:49 GMT
Well I loved this set! 4(3?) very strong stories, I think these last two sets in particular have really started to properly explore the concept of a time war in ways I wished the War Doctor had, as good as they were they were basically WWII movie riffs. But these get further into the idea of the war despite being set earlier.
Dorney is, of course, writer who always delivers solid gold so thd opener gets off to fantastic start. I'm not a big Dalek fan, even less of a creamy shouty Davros one (I, Davros was of course brilliant) and this made me cast a fresh eye over Davros. Malloy is great as both normal and even shouty Davros, he really steals the show here from McGann.
Lisa McMullin is another strong reliable writer and I liked the concept of the second story, one of her best yet. Also great to have The Twelve back as she was a highlight of vol. 2 when I was starting to get a bit weary of The Eleven. A real shot in the arm, hope we see more of her elsewhere. Having Ken Bones' General join in was also a neat addition to the range. The two add much gravitas.
The finale from Matt Fitton was a very strong closer, one of Fitton's best for a while, full of surprises, especially 5hat last one, that leaves me eager to hear more.
Excellent stuff all round. Might need to do an epic McGannathon from Lucie Miller to Time War as a lot of the boxsets I've only heard the once outside the Dorney's.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 4:35:12 GMT
Now on Restoration -Dreamscape was interesting amnesia(unusual in MCGANN stories 🤪)a universe without the foe and our other gender changing Time Lord ably portrayed by Julia (she does the multiple personalities so well). My feeling is this is a TIME WAR unlike even the HURT stories where I felt underwhelmed-superweapon kind of week Kind of thing.There is threat and the stakes feel desperate with both sides pulling out all the stops. I agree with karldwilliams above...this set has relistening value and I cannot say I rush to relisten to any of the others,the odd story here and there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 4:55:04 GMT
I think there is no reason given the multiversal nature of this EPIC and the set does feel epic...that Matt and John cannot somehow give the true honour of ending the TIME WAR to McGanns Doctor some time wimey shenanigans where HURT jumps into MCGANNS TIME LINE hence his box sets are actually MCGANNS and now MCGANN is in HURTS sets because this last set really feels it belongs in the last days of the TIME WAR .
Finished it...well I won’t hold back my praise it has been the only Time War set that has held me gripped all three stories...I was going even to delay my listening but last night I succumbed to Dreadshade then this morning Restoration...basically two releases Bernice and this .this month WOW.
and the final moments....ahhhhhhh no spoilers ...it would have been easier going a certain way and undo something,am so glad they didn’t succumb and it MUST have been very very very tempting.
it is a definite 5/5 from me and a most definite relisten.
Top Marks especially to Terry Molloy
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 5:41:24 GMT
A little side note given the nature of lockdown I wonder if we may see actors clamouring on board to audio work that normally wouldn’t guaranteed work and money 😉
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Post by xlozdob on Sept 17, 2020 11:07:06 GMT
I think there is no reason given the multiversal nature of this EPIC and the set does feel epic...that Matt and John cannot somehow give the true honour of ending the TIME WAR to McGanns Doctor some time wimey shenanigans where HURT jumps into MCGANNS TIME LINE hence his box sets are actually MCGANNS and now MCGANN is in HURTS sets because this last set really feels it belongs in the last days of the TIME WAR . Well, as nitronine posited on the Time War timeline thread, a possible way to see it (and now my personal headcanon) is that McGann returns to the "beginning" of the War after his Time War series and Lies in Ruins, to "help out where he can". So there's possibly three definitive (not counting the novels ) versions (or this one version at three points) of the Doctor going around during the War: one 8 with Bliss, one alone and the War Doctor. Here's their post, it's much better explained.
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Post by mark687 on Sept 17, 2020 11:45:42 GMT
Restoration of the Daleks Solid wrap up for a more co-he-rant set. Terry Molloy's the MPV stunning throughout. Interestingly BF waited longer than I thought they would for that return at the end, and I didn't expect it to happen after an SW boxset was released. Wonder what's next an amalgamation of characters or more separate series I wonder? I'd prefer the former. Regards mark687
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Post by theillusiveman on Sept 17, 2020 11:47:24 GMT
Restoration of the Daleks Solid wrap up for a more co-he-rant set. Terry Molloy's the MPV stunning throughout. Interestingly BF waited longer than I thought they would for that return at the end, and I didn't expect it to happen after an SW boxset was released. Wonder what's next an amalgamation of characters or more separate series I'd prefer the former. Regards mark687 Yeah the ending caught me by surprise too I honestly thought That character wouldn’t have been the one I envisioned
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 11:52:51 GMT
I think there is no reason given the multiversal nature of this EPIC and the set does feel epic...that Matt and John cannot somehow give the true honour of ending the TIME WAR to McGanns Doctor some time wimey shenanigans where HURT jumps into MCGANNS TIME LINE hence his box sets are actually MCGANNS and now MCGANN is in HURTS sets because this last set really feels it belongs in the last days of the TIME WAR . Well, as nitronine posited on the Time War timeline thread, a possible way to see it (and now my personal headcanon) is that McGann returns to the "beginning" of the War after his Time War series and Lies in Ruins, to "help out where he can". So there's possibly three definitive (not counting the novels ) versions (or this one version at three points) of the Doctor going around during the War: one 8 with Bliss, one alone and the War Doctor. Here's their post, it's much better explained. Thanks get a read when I finish work mate 👍
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Post by antartiks on Sept 17, 2020 12:40:51 GMT
Wow, I did NOT see the ending coming.
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Post by shallacatop on Sept 17, 2020 15:47:09 GMT
Just listened to Palindrome and really enjoyed it. Suitably timey wimey and quite grand in scale, yet it's only a cast of five so it's got a nice intimacy too. I was wondering what I was missing out on when other posters were raving about Terry Molloy. He isn't bad, but I didn't think he was anything to write home about; just sounded like himself and not a patch on I, Davros. And then we got to the hybrid of the "normal" Davros and the Davros we all know and love (hate?) and then I began to understand the praise; Molloy's on fine form playing this version of Davros, getting increasingly manic as the story goes on and quickly becoming the sinister and crackpot dictator of the Daleks that we're familiar with.
Bliss continues to just be there; nothing more than quips and exposition, but I don't think I expected that to change, four sets in.
I think the best praise I can give about the story is that it follows on from the events of The War Valeyard whilst doings its own thing, that in turn doesn't dwell too much and just become one of those alternate reality stories that inevitably gets rewritten or voided by the end. It's a balancing act and it does it well.
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Post by shallacatop on Sept 17, 2020 17:27:49 GMT
I thought Dreadshade was great. A breather in between Palindrome & Restoration of the Daleks that stands strong in its own right. I liked the handling of the aftermath of The War Valeyard and I liked the connections to the other stories in this range; they didn’t feel forced.
At first I thought it was going to be a pseudo sequel to Lisa McMullin’s The Famished Lands from the third volume at first, as that marks the beginning of the references, but it becomes something bigger. On the subject of McMullin, she’s a great recent asset to Big Finish. Looking forward to more from her.
Ken Bones is the star of the show here and I’m so glad The General is now part of the Time War at Big Finish. Great character, well performed by Bones, with that lovely balance of gravitas and being completely dry.
I will reserve full judgement until the set ends, but listening to Dreadshade had me thinking that this range is in the wrong order. Suitable for a Time War, you might argue, but I think a shake up of the stories and I bet the four sets would flow much better than they do.
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 17, 2020 20:29:28 GMT
Finished Palindrome. I am blow away. I had not expected this level of awesome. This was clever on so many levels and will gain from re-listening. The story was interesting, using the timey-whimey elements to it's strength. I also liked that the Doctor and Bliss basically became side- characters. The main emphasis was Davros. This could have failed miserably. It could have just become an overacted, shouty mess. But I am happy that BF has so many great and enthusiastic actors at hand, and Terry Molloy give his all in this. He switches perfectly between all the different versions of Davros and it just works. I am stunned on how well this was done. It also works as a great character study, and becomes horrific and tragic and you really do care. And honestly, who does not really love to hate Davros? This is the story that elevates the Time War series for me. Although it does not quite reach the level of the likes of "Day of the Master", it non-the-less comes close.
I totally agree with Causality, this is definitely not the "weapon of the week" that has plagued the range, this is what I had expected of the Time War from the start. A clever use of the audio medium, a clever use of the concept of "time", and some great characters to breathe life into the story.
Thank you John Dorney and also thank you Terry Molloy.
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Post by antartiks on Sept 17, 2020 21:06:48 GMT
It's funny, I'd never been a fan of the Eighth Doctor : Time War saga up until that point. But I definitely think the fourth volume was easily the best so far. More ambitious, Bliss was less in the background than before, I'm starting to enjoy the cast and Adele Anderson should really keep playing Tamasan in my opinion, it was nice to have her for the last 2 box sets... I hope future box sets will keep that level of quality, moving forward. And that ending. {Spoiler} I keep wondering whether Susan will eventually appear in a future volume, because there's absolutely no way she cannot find out about this.
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Post by barnabaslives on Sept 17, 2020 21:08:23 GMT
I will reserve full judgement until the set ends, but listening to Dreadshade had me thinking that this range is in the wrong order. Suitable for a Time War, you might argue, but I think a shake up of the stories and I bet the four sets would flow much better than they do. Good post. I think it's interesting that someone else had this comment about the story order. I had the same comment about the first set, and the same starting into this set - I think I was trying to leave everything as much of a surprise as possible and hadn't expected Davros until later on - but I started to wonder if that really was the point that we get a sense of the disjointedness of events in the Time War. Story order is rarely if ever a complaint I've had about any other box sets, Big Finish usually seems to have a fairly impeccable sense of arranging stories so that they do feel like they're in the right order. I still have the last story to go but whatever happens I think I could end up fairly content that it comes with the territory. It's starting to feel like a slightly odd complaint to have about timey-wimeyness when that's the first thing about this set that I want to complement is that John Dorney's wonderful gift for writing timey-wimey stories that don't feel gimmicky is very much in evidence here. It will be interesting to see what I think about the story order for the series later on if I go back and listen to it as a whole.
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