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Post by elkawho on May 24, 2020 13:56:24 GMT
This one if my favorite of the Mary Shelley trilogy. This is back to the romantic, happy Eight and I love those times. This story builds so well, and the guest characters are so well realized. You can practically hear Eight figuring it all out, and Mary's response to coming face to face with so many things out of her experience is truthful. Finally someone who doesn't immediately take to travelling with the Doctor. I'm not one who loves his time with Mary, but this story is terrific,.
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Post by tuigirl on May 24, 2020 14:04:52 GMT
I know that this appears to be a fan favorite...
but I somehow never got into it. I think I have by now listened to it 3 or 4 times.
Yes, it had great atmosphere and it plays in Vienna which was my home for a couple of years.
And the idea is a very interesting one.
The Cybermen are very creepy.
I love the 8th Doctor.
However, I somehow feel "cold" when listening to this. I also have never really warmed to the BF version of Mary Shelley.
And I just could not establish a connection to the side characters here.
Plus, I am not a fan of the desperate attempt of the actors trying to mangle the German language.
So for me, this might be another candidate for the thread "Releases you should love but somehow don't".
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Post by elkawho on May 24, 2020 14:11:16 GMT
I know that this appears to be a fan favorite... but I somehow never got into it. I think I have by now listened to it 3 or 4 times. Yes, it had great atmosphere and it plays in Vienna which was my home for a couple of years. And the idea is a very interesting one. The Cybermen are very creepy. I love the 8th Doctor. However, I somehow feel "cold" when listening to this. I also have never really warmed to the BF version of Mary Shelley. And I just could not establish a connection to the side characters here. Plus, I am not a fan of the desperate attempt of the actors trying to mangle the German language. So for me, this might be another candidate for the thread "Releases you should love but somehow don't". I never really warmed to Mary Shelley in these either, but this is the one of hers I enjoy the most. |
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Post by doctorkernow on May 24, 2020 21:49:38 GMT
Hello again.
This had me in the first few seconds. It is so creepy, that lullaby, the horrible creations that lurk at night and the Silver Turk itself. It's a fascinating mixture. I like Julie Cox's take on Mary Shelley. She is constantly adjusting to the demands of travelling with the Doctor in this story and the others in the trilogy. She is a good foil for the Doctor in this adventuring incarnation. It is a very cold story with little warmth. Some of its characters behave appallingly. I listened to it for the first time before going to sleep. Brrr... It really freaked me out. If this had been my first time travelling with the Doctor and had to go through what Mary did, I think I'd request a ride home!
I quite understand Tuigirl's annoyance with German mispronunciation, it is much better when productions get these little details right. In Cornwall, we often have mistakes made by tourists asking for directions to Fooey instead of Fowey or Mouse-hole instead of Mowzel.
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Post by elkawho on May 25, 2020 1:41:47 GMT
Oh, I almost forgot. Next week is Last of the Cybermen.
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Post by ljwilson on May 25, 2020 8:29:08 GMT
The Silver Turk is fantastic, oozing in atmosphere and quite menacing at times. The Austrian setting is wonderfully brought to life and as a Lancastrian living in Yorkshire the Germanic mispronunciations went way above my head (I'll bow to Tuigirl's greater knowledge on that one).
Speaking of such, I once used to work in Bradford and informed the locals we needed to focus our attention on the village of Slaithwaite. 'Slawit!' came the response, how was I meant to know that?
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 25, 2020 10:11:23 GMT
This is a fantastic start to The Mary Shelley Trilogy proper. With what i've always thought was an interesting Sting in the Tail
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2020 10:32:58 GMT
This is entirely trivial, but the unexpected: "Gᴏ-ᴛᴏ-Hᴇʟʟ-sɪʀ," might be my favourite Cyber-line on audio.
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Post by Tim Bradley on May 25, 2020 12:43:52 GMT
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Post by tuigirl on May 25, 2020 17:10:26 GMT
The Silver Turk is fantastic, oozing in atmosphere and quite menacing at times. The Austrian setting is wonderfully brought to life and as a Lancastrian living in Yorkshire the Germanic mispronunciations went way above my head (I'll bow to Tuigirl's greater knowledge on that one). Speaking of such, I once used to work in Bradford and informed the locals we needed to focus our attention on the village of Slaithwaite. 'Slawit!' came the response, how was I meant to know that? No need to bow, it is just my native tongue.  |
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Post by sherlock on Jun 1, 2020 11:54:06 GMT
This is a really interesting one, positioning the Cybermen as victims. It works really well, and gives the Doctor and Mary some conflict. The choice to use the Mondasian originals works in really nicely, no other design sells the Cybermen as creatures to pity quite as much.
The story overall is quite enjoyable, one day I will pick up the rest of the Mary Shelley trilogy. Also the theme tune variation is really neat, shame it hasn’t been used beyond this trilogy.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jun 6, 2020 21:50:23 GMT
It's really terrific - a great quasi Frankenstein-Elephant Man-Freaks riff on the Cybermen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 13:46:43 GMT
I must give ARMY OF DEATH a relisten soon too .
if it’s Vienna or Salzburg the 8th DOCTOR seems to be a European City Breaks lover.This was before Moffat cottoned on to using the old style Cybermen and am pretty glad he did they have a certain eerie ,creepiness and before they stole Mary Shelley too.I agree with Sherlock above they are a monster to be pitied that about sums it up.For some reason this is easily conjured in the mind and another tight script from Marc Platt and I have to say I have played this more than Spare Parts I love Julie Cox as an actress and wish she had had more sessions as Mary Shelley but given the amount of folks he has met I think there should be NARVIN definitely going around doing mindwipes right after his visits he is fast becoming a celebrity as I have said before And with endless incarnations it’s very probable he has met and had adventures with every single famous person in the history of the universes 😜
The cliffhanger yes we knew what would be revealed but it still works filmicly in my head.
The reworking of the theme tune adds a difference to the release also.
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Post by grinch on Jan 6, 2021 15:50:05 GMT
Always thought this was terrific and about as far as I think the BBC would allow Doctor Who to go when it comes to doing body horror Cybermen stories.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2021 16:10:03 GMT
Always thought this was terrific and about as far as I think the BBC would allow Doctor Who to go when it comes to doing body horror Cybermen stories. Yes I do think it’s a great tale and hey can be horrific as you like in your own mind...am a wonderful set designer director and producer when given good material for my mind hahahaha and my mood lighting is second to none nothing is ever over lit |
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