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Post by dorney on Aug 6, 2020 7:26:51 GMT
I’m slightly surprised to see ‘Vortex cover’ in there... as it was the cover of Vortex. (Likewise another post mentions a DWM article... and there was one. Cover is rather out of BF’s hands!). I think you know what was meant by a DWM article; a behind the scenes piece with comments from Tom, David, Nick, etc. What we got was something in Gallifrey Guardian that regurgitated the Big Finish news article. No, I’m not being disingenuous, there was a bigger than usual piece about it in the preview section last month. Four pages at least, rather than the usual two or less, all new quotes. Although as I say, DWM choose what they feature - I suspect they might have done an even bigger piece had this been done in studio rather than remotely.
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Post by OneTen on Aug 6, 2020 8:55:05 GMT
You know it kinda seems weird that we still haven't gotten any info about 2 and 3 i thought as a bundle they should at least have a logo for the two audios as a wip also why wasn't there at least a month release date instead of TBD surely they shouldn't have announced 2 or 3 until at least the prime recording has been done? I don't need a release date, but I'm not going to order volume 1 until I know whether I want the bundle or not, and for that I need to know who's in all of them. Actually, not even that - I just need to know if it'll be original actors, or the tribute acts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 11:47:30 GMT
I didn't mention DWM content as that's their editorial purview and they're not obliged to cover anything (as anyone who remembers their complete failure to even try giving Class a helping hand will know), yet if BF can't make this one generate buzz, I wouldn't expect anyone else to care too much.
Again, this doesn't seem to be just some of us thinking this like most things here are opinion based - it seems quite a consensus that for a very marketable concept which is cheap and surely could theoretically entice buyers new to BF young and old...even we as those that FOLLOW this stuff feel we're not getting enough info on it. What chance the casual BF fan much less those who have never bought an audio?
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Aug 6, 2020 12:03:49 GMT
I didn't mention DWM content as that's their editorial purview and they're not obliged to cover anything (as anyone who remembers their complete failure to even try giving Class a helping hand will know), yet if BF can't make this one generate buzz, I wouldn't expect anyone else to care too much. Again, this doesn't seem to be just some of us thinking this like most things here are opinion based - it seems quite a consensus that for a very marketable concept which is cheap and surely could theoretically entice buyers new to BF young and old...even we as those that FOLLOW this stuff feel we're not getting enough info on it. What chance the casual BF fan much less those who have never bought an audio? So true. We basically have the most recognisable Doctors of more than one generation teaming up for the first time this month & what do we know about it? Let alone the wider fandom of Who in general. Many of us have criticized BFs marketing & PR before & with good reason. This is a unique opportunity for them to get the word out & increase their audience. But they are doing nothing. It's so bizarre.
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Post by shallacatop on Aug 6, 2020 12:08:15 GMT
I think you know what was meant by a DWM article; a behind the scenes piece with comments from Tom, David, Nick, etc. What we got was something in Gallifrey Guardian that regurgitated the Big Finish news article. No, I’m not being disingenuous, there was a bigger than usual piece about it in the preview section last month. Four pages at least, rather than the usual two or less, all new quotes. Although as I say, DWM choose what they feature - I suspect they might have done an even bigger piece had this been done in studio rather than remotely. No there wasn't. There was the standard preview in the last issue. It was two pages; one was the article and a short piece about Dalek voices, the other was the opening of the article (because it couldn't fit onto one due to the Dalek voice piece) and a picture of the cover. Nothing more than usual. I agree that there's new quotes there and that DWM choose what they want to feature, but as Davy says, if Big Finish can't promote it, then why would anyone else? I'm not sure that it being recorded remotely would have much of an impact; DWM seem to be doing great work creating articles remotely, both pre-COVID and in lockdown.
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Post by dorney on Aug 6, 2020 12:26:47 GMT
No, I’m not being disingenuous, there was a bigger than usual piece about it in the preview section last month. Four pages at least, rather than the usual two or less, all new quotes. Although as I say, DWM choose what they feature - I suspect they might have done an even bigger piece had this been done in studio rather than remotely. No there wasn't. There was the standard preview in the last issue. It was two pages; one was the article and a short piece about Dalek voices, the other was the opening of the article (because it couldn't fit onto one due to the Dalek voice piece) and a picture of the cover. Nothing more than usual. I agree that there's new quotes there and that DWM choose what they want to feature, but as Davy says, if Big Finish can't promote it, then why would anyone else? I'm not sure that it being recorded remotely would have much of an impact; DWM seem to be doing great work creating articles remotely, both pre-COVID and in lockdown. Hmmm - I was sure it was a longer article than usual. Apologies. I only read it a week or so back and all. But to be fair it was definitely more than a Gallifrey Guardian bit of recycling. And to explain what I mean about remote recording impacting things - usually a bigger article requires someone to have come into studio specifically to interview the actors and crew, in my experience.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 12:33:50 GMT
No there wasn't. There was the standard preview in the last issue. It was two pages; one was the article and a short piece about Dalek voices, the other was the opening of the article (because it couldn't fit onto one due to the Dalek voice piece) and a picture of the cover. Nothing more than usual. I agree that there's new quotes there and that DWM choose what they want to feature, but as Davy says, if Big Finish can't promote it, then why would anyone else? I'm not sure that it being recorded remotely would have much of an impact; DWM seem to be doing great work creating articles remotely, both pre-COVID and in lockdown. Hmmm - I was sure it was a longer article than usual. Apologies. I only read it a week or so back and all. But to be fair it was definitely more than a Gallifrey Guardian bit of recycling. And to explain what I mean about remote recording impacting things - usually a bigger article requires someone to have come into studio specifically to interview the actors and crew, in my experience. As we're reminded everywhere though, we're not in "usual" - the rest of the world has gone Zoom-errific, interviews online are the "new normal" surely even for DWM. All by the by though because as you said - they have no obligation to cover it beyond any paid ads so that part would be out of BF's control anyway, even if, clearly, it would be desirable.
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Post by number13 on Aug 6, 2020 12:49:36 GMT
When I know Who+Who is in Vols 2 & 3, I will buy. Not that there's any doubt about me buying, obviously, but with a bundle to be bought there's no rush or postage/pre-order discount to consider either. So I would like to know, that's all.
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Post by shallacatop on Aug 6, 2020 14:08:20 GMT
No there wasn't. There was the standard preview in the last issue. It was two pages; one was the article and a short piece about Dalek voices, the other was the opening of the article (because it couldn't fit onto one due to the Dalek voice piece) and a picture of the cover. Nothing more than usual. I agree that there's new quotes there and that DWM choose what they want to feature, but as Davy says, if Big Finish can't promote it, then why would anyone else? I'm not sure that it being recorded remotely would have much of an impact; DWM seem to be doing great work creating articles remotely, both pre-COVID and in lockdown. Hmmm - I was sure it was a longer article than usual. Apologies. I only read it a week or so back and all. But to be fair it was definitely more than a Gallifrey Guardian bit of recycling. And to explain what I mean about remote recording impacting things - usually a bigger article requires someone to have come into studio specifically to interview the actors and crew, in my experience. No worries; I'd forgotten about the preview which is why I only mentioned the Gallifrey Guardian piece. I understood the comments about remote recording, but I don't see how interviewing people would be an issue. Some remote conversations must have happened in order for DWM to get the new quotes for their preview. Of course, it's for DWM to decide if they create an article or not and I certainly think there was scope to, but I do think the lack of fuss about the release from Big Finish will have nipped that in the bud. If the creators aren't making an effort, then why would anyone else, which is part of the discussion.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Aug 6, 2020 16:13:00 GMT
A 4/10 teamup is such a big deal that it might be better to wait till it's out to make a big fuss about it, so that people can buy and download and listen instantly, not gripe about preorders; instant PR not pre-PR. (And, if that means they miss the lower preorder price, so be it....)
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Aug 6, 2020 19:01:14 GMT
The fact remains a lot of people don't know about this. The comments from the virtual Big Finish Day show that. And it is kind of a mystery to me. If ever there was a tailor made entry point into Big Finish Doctor Who, it is a multi-Doctor story with 4 & 10. That it didn't warrant its own segment on Big Finish Day still amazes me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 22:06:44 GMT
That it didn't warrant its own segment on Big Finish Day still amazes me. +1
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Post by project37 on Aug 7, 2020 1:10:42 GMT
At least they didn't slap a big "1" on the cover (like "Stranded" or "Doom Coalition") - from a visual sense, it allows this release to stand on its own quite nicely as a one-off instead of a series that you feel obligated to complete (especially when we have no information about casting, writers, or release dates).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 2:28:29 GMT
At least they didn't slap a big "1" on the cover (like "Stranded" or "Doom Coalition") - from a visual sense, it allows this release to stand on its own quite nicely as a one-off instead of a series that you feel obligated to complete (especially when we have no information about casting, writers, or release dates).
All these awesome 10th Doctor crossover releases coming soon... And consensus is BF is dropping the ball on various aspects of each.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Aug 7, 2020 2:30:56 GMT
As for volumes 2 & 3, it could be as simple as both still need to have some recording done for them.
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Post by pawntake on Aug 7, 2020 6:46:57 GMT
There is no release date yet for 2/3(correct me someone if i am wrong)I will wait patiently for the bundle.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Aug 8, 2020 16:43:22 GMT
OK, theory. OOT was brought forward due to Covid, right? What if BF were asked not to promote it too hard because bringing it forward meant it would coincide with the leadup to TLV?
Theory 2 - either there are new Doctors appearing in the next two editions, in which case see theory above; or they've not been recorded yet. Or both.
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Post by barnabaslives on Aug 9, 2020 8:49:30 GMT
I hoping Big Finish isn't going to disappoint with the releases following Four and Ten. The only reason I didn't order the whoe bundle is because I didn't know when to expect the next installments so I gave priority to things that have dates specified. I don't suppose I'd mind who is in them or not.
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Post by theillusiveman on Aug 9, 2020 10:17:35 GMT
I hoping Big Finish isn't going to disappoint with the releases following Four and Ten. The only reason I didn't order the whoe bundle is because I didn't know when to expect the next installments so I gave priority to things that have dates specified. I don't suppose I'd mind who is in them or not. Well Nick Briggs said in the BF podcast that The 5th and 6th Doctors will feature
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Post by project37 on Aug 9, 2020 15:19:45 GMT
Okay, Eccleston has to be Volume 2 now...right?
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