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Post by Kestrel on Mar 27, 2021 22:57:56 GMT
Honestly I wasn't really interested in this, at all--but then I read through Vortex, where they likened it to Blackadder, so now I'll be buying it on release.
Though, really, wouldn't Big Finish be the perfect format for Blackadder? Though I imagine it'd be difficult to get everyone together for it....
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Post by thelonecenturion on Mar 27, 2021 23:10:11 GMT
Latest DWM confirmed that Vol 2 will be set in King Arthur's Camelot! So he's going into the land of fiction? It's technically set within an alternate timeline, so I don't think it'll be land of fiction.
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Post by Kestrel on Mar 27, 2021 23:25:03 GMT
I don't think it's really necessary to qualify, provided they choose an appropriate time period. History, or historicity, is such that they could easily have a "real" Arthur/Camelot that simply isn't well-preserved or documented for whatever reason--and depending on how they do it, they wouldn't even need to provide that potential reason.
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Post by grinch on Mar 27, 2021 23:44:41 GMT
I don't think it's really necessary to qualify, provided they choose an appropriate time period. History, or historicity, is such that they could easily have a "real" Arthur/Camelot that simply isn't well-preserved or documented for whatever reason--and depending on how they do it, they wouldn't even need to provide that potential reason. Hell, for all we know ‘King Arthur’s Camelot’ could merely refer to an amusement park or something which has a medieval aesthetic to it. I doubt it but it’s a possibility at least.
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Post by Kestrel on Mar 28, 2021 1:01:29 GMT
Yeah, there's any number of ways they could go. It could even be an SF thing, with Camelot being an illusion or an alien colony or something. Or even if they go the "realistic" route, they could do something like 'Vinland Saga' and make the whole Arthur/Camelot thing some relatively minor 8th century Welsh warlord whose story got heavily mythologized after the fact, to the point where it became more fiction than fact over time.
BUT given the inspiration, I expect they won't try to make it "realistic," and we'll see something much closer to the mythic Camelot as seen in 'The Once and Future King' or 'Le Morte d'Artur.'
I mean, if Sherlock Holmes can be real, why not Arthur? (And also why not Arsene Lupin, while we're at it).
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Post by thelonecenturion on Mar 28, 2021 9:48:35 GMT
Having heard the excerpt in today's podcast, this sounds great, and I'm really excited for it now. The music was a little jarring at first, but I soon got used to it - as with Darvill's voice in my opinion. Very well-written, well-performed and funny though, so I can't wait to hear the rest.
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Post by thelonecenturion on Apr 8, 2021 8:14:50 GMT
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Apr 8, 2021 8:42:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 10:24:26 GMT
interesting, guess volume 2 is already recoded then? Or at least partly? Or perhaps its a specially recorded trailer for the end of the boxset? Hmmm
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Post by thelonecenturion on Apr 8, 2021 10:26:20 GMT
interesting, guess volume 2 is already recoded then? Or at least partly? Or perhaps its a specially recorded trailer for the end of the boxset? Hmmm I believe it's already been recorded, given the hints in DWM and Vortex
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Post by shallacatop on Apr 8, 2021 13:19:35 GMT
I was rather disappointed in this, unfortunately. I didn't think it was all that fun or farcical, it doesn't really play to Arthur's strengths and lacks heart. It's all played quite straight and the stories feel like they coast, as though they're neither enjoyable standalones or a greater whole. I Rorius is an improvement, as it's got some heart to it, particularly in the beginning and the end. It's also the only story that actually really details why Rory is there and what he's doing, which is a big omission in the first two.
Arthur himself sounds absolutely nothing like Rory, bar the odd moment, and took me out of the stories a lot.
Ultimately, I didn't really get much out of it, and certainly nothing that the team had discussed in Vortex, interviews, etc. A real shame, as it's a set I was genuinely looking forward to, thought the idea was great to explore in the absence of Matt & Karen and Rory is one of my favourite companions. I'm wondering if an anthology would have worked better; standalones with Rory in different periods in each episode and a better variety of plots.
Still, the music, sound design and cover are all nice.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Apr 8, 2021 14:37:54 GMT
I was rather disappointed in this, unfortunately. I didn't think it was all that fun or farcical, it doesn't really play to Arthur's strengths and lacks heart. It's all played quite straight and the stories feel like they coast, as though they're neither enjoyable standalones or a greater whole. I Rorius is an improvement, as it's got some heart to it, particularly in the beginning and the end. It's also the only story that actually really details why Rory is there and what he's doing, which is a big omission in the first two. Arthur himself sounds absolutely nothing like Rory, bar the odd moment, and took me out of the stories a lot. Ultimately, I didn't really get much out of it, and certainly nothing that the team had discussed in Vortex, interviews, etc. A real shame, as it's a set I was genuinely looking forward to, thought the idea was great to explore in the absence of Matt & Karen and Rory is one of my favourite companions. I'm wondering if an anthology would have worked better; standalones with Rory in different periods in each episode and a better variety of plots. Still, the music, sound design and cover are all nice. Interesting. This wasn't something I was interested in but the anthology approach in different periods you suggest would have got me more interested.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 19:42:33 GMT
This one is for the weekend
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Post by pawntake on Apr 8, 2021 19:55:06 GMT
Great cast,light comedy,more hysterical than historical,more up pompei! than rome,just one story in.What is not to like? The cast seem as though they are having a blast!Perhaps things will get darker as the story proceeds? Have not seen much new-who so maybe thats an advantage,i don't have to compare the character of Rory to what he was like in the original show.Ok! lets find the next story,turn left at the forum i believe! or was it right?
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Post by thelonecenturion on Apr 8, 2021 20:03:29 GMT
Great cast,light comedy,more hysterical than historical,more up pompei! than rome,just one story in.What is not to like? The cast seem as though they are having a blast!Perhaps things will get darker as the story proceeds? Have not seen much new-who so maybe thats an advantage,i don't have to compare the character of Rory to what he was like in the original show.Ok! lets find the next story,turn left at the forum i believe! or was it right? They actually compared it to Up, Pompeii! in either the DWM or Vortex preview (I can't remember which one). I've been looking forward to this since it was announced, but I'm not going to have time to listen to it till next week. Such a cruel release date for me!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2021 5:47:21 GMT
Two ways this could have went dark or ...this way. I love Rory and have no problem imagining this once you remind yourself of the tv show chronology .The whole cast seem to be relishing their roles .i truly long for the trio to be reunited onwards to episode two.
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Post by Who Review on Apr 10, 2021 21:13:58 GMT
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Post by antartiks on Apr 10, 2021 22:00:15 GMT
I thought the first two episodes were quite funny, Arthur Darvill flawlessly reprising the role of Rory as if he'd never been away. Terry Molloy was also really enjoyable, but that's Terry Molloy for you. I'm glad that he's been doing so many plays for Big Finish lately.
But it's really the final episode that makes this box set worth buying for me. Some parts of the episode were hilarious - mostly the beginning - but what I liked the most was how Jacqueline Rayner was able to explore Rory's predicament and how he was struggling to adapt, knowing he will still have to wait for 2000 years for Amy to be freed and the Doctor to return. That's something the series 5 finale glossed over (which was also understandable) and the last scene was quite beautiful I thought. Props to Jac Rayner, one of BF's most consistent writers for the last 20 years.
I hope the second volume will be just as good. I heavily dislike Amy and Eleven, but Rory always was my favorite character from this part of the Moffat era. I'd be okay with a box set featuring River and Rory, though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 7:23:29 GMT
This after the final listen I really enjoyed really it is just one big episode and eventually by the end of the set I could easily imagine Rory with all the little tics and visual nuances Arthur would have given him on screen. Joanna Van Kampen definitely was standout in her role and I Loved Samantha Bearts appearance with Rory which added some emotional depth against Rory.there was a little special scene of Rory reminiscing of home and duck ponds which actually reallly touched me as am sure will touch anyone who has been away from home.
I know Amy is a 50/50 with some loving some hating but am 100% Amy fan and hope our trio get back together at some point and am definitely onboard for Camelot ,wow two releases this year that I have loved Master and Rory,Lone Centurion.
I of course have to admit I had to recall first why he is a nestene Duplicate and also this is an alternate timeline and that was fun getting my brain around all of that again. So congrats Scott Handcock ,Arthur,the guest cast and the writers for pulling it off
its Not really a negative...but theme tune could have been more rousing....perhaps another try 😂
I would have done the bundle but release July 22 ??but at least they committed to a second volume which is more than they did for any of the originals
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Post by IndieMacUser on Apr 11, 2021 11:30:50 GMT
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