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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 11:56:24 GMT
@catabark and @paz have both deleted their accounts in rapid succession? (assuming they are not both one and the same of course..) If they are 'guesting' then I hope both are okay and remind both that the forum is always here if they ever need it to be. 😊 The forum's got safeguards to prevent simultaneous duplicate accounts, so that's more than likely another two members we've lost after Causality. Damn. I can't fault anyone for wanting to take a breather from the wider world at the moment. Hopefully, they'll be back.
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Post by number13 on Jul 2, 2020 12:29:32 GMT
Part of it feels informed by their predecessor's final moments, to some extent. Each Doctor being a reaction to whatever last thought they were clinging to at the time. Whether consciously or subconsciously. I like that idea and, thinking about the Classic Doctors, that actually works! Up until Sixie. I couldn't imagine what was going on in his subconscious to generate the 'Time and the Rani' Seventh Doctor.
But... if he'd become later Seven (given Sixie's brilliant last words to the Valeyard in 'The Last Adventure'), yes it would work again. So maybe it was the Rani's meddling that sent his personality off-course for a while before he could really become the new, dark Doctor he'd intended?
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Post by timegirl on Jul 2, 2020 13:18:30 GMT
I like your idea!😀Jo is a brilliant Doctor 😊Also it would reinforce what The Great Curator said about revisiting a few favorite faces down the line😉 I wonder if the Doctor wore Jo’s face a second time would she have the same personality as we saw her in “fugitive” (sort of a direct continuation) or would she have Jo’s face but with a slightly different personality? That's an interesting question - where does the Doctor's personality come from when they regenerate? It seems ready-formed, with a bit of regeneration instability sometimes. Each personality can grow over time like ours do, but it must come with the body to some extent.
Having said that, wouldn't she be a rather different personality second time around? Maybe more informal, if that's the right word, a bit more 'new series'.
Jo Doctor II would have the experiences of many other lives since the previous time, and most of them spent away from Gallifrey learning so much more, meeting so many other species and sharing the TARDIS with all those Companions. And of course huge events like marriage to Susan's grandmother, their children and their lives, Susan - and the moment of rebellion the First Doctor (as I will always call him!) stole the TARDIS and zoomed off with Susan to start the lives we know. I think she would be the same, but different! If 14 is Jo Doctor II then we could have a multi Doctor episode between the two Jo Doctors! 😁🤔
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 13:24:49 GMT
Part of it feels informed by their predecessor's final moments, to some extent. Each Doctor being a reaction to whatever last thought they were clinging to at the time. Whether consciously or subconsciously. I like that idea and, thinking about the Classic Doctors, that actually works! Up until Sixie. I couldn't imagine what was going on in his subconscious to generate the 'Time and the Rani' Seventh Doctor. But... if he'd become later Seven (given Sixie's brilliant last words to the Valeyard in 'The Last Adventure'), yes it would work again. So maybe it was the Rani's meddling that sent his personality off-course for a while before he could really become the new, dark Doctor he'd intended? 'Tis a bit silly ("Us! Silly? On Lakertya?"), but I think the Seventh Doctor spends most of Time and the Rani, erm... well, there's no other way to say it -- heavily drugged. The Rani injects something into his arm after Urak stuns him with the net-cannon. A concotion to provoke amnesia, she claims. Before that, our darker Seventh Doctor is almost in full swing from the word "Go" (barring problems with his balance), duelling in ethics while trying to unravel her latest scheme. He's a lot sharper than I remember, come to think of it, rewatching that first scene. It works nicely for the Eighth Doctor too, on reflection. The amnesia could have come from the anaesthetic that stalled his regeneration on the operating table, but also, maybe because the Seventh Doctor's latent thoughts had all but vanished by the time he woke up in the morgue. A boat down the River Styx, the ferryman crossed to the pier while the passenger's been asleep, letting it drift down into the midnight mists. I can see some of Seven's subconscious thoughts informing Eight's enthusiastic love of life, though. An embracing of all the little things that his predecessor felt he'd overlooked in his lifetime.
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Post by timegirl on Jul 2, 2020 13:40:40 GMT
I like that idea and, thinking about the Classic Doctors, that actually works! Up until Sixie. I couldn't imagine what was going on in his subconscious to generate the 'Time and the Rani' Seventh Doctor. But... if he'd become later Seven (given Sixie's brilliant last words to the Valeyard in 'The Last Adventure'), yes it would work again. So maybe it was the Rani's meddling that sent his personality off-course for a while before he could really become the new, dark Doctor he'd intended? 'Tis a bit silly ("Us! Silly? On Lakertya?"), but I think the Seventh Doctor spends most of Time and the Rani, erm... well, there's no other way to say it -- heavily drugged. The Rani injects something into his arm after Urak stuns him with the net-cannon. A concotion to provoke amnesia, she claims. Before that, our darker Seventh Doctor is almost in full swing from the word "Go" (barring problems with his balance), duelling in ethics while trying to unravel her latest scheme. He's a lot sharper than I remember, come to think of it, rewatching that first scene. It works nicely for the Eighth Doctor too, on reflection. The amnesia could have come from the anaesthetic that stalled his regeneration on the operating table, but also, maybe because the Seventh Doctor's latent thoughts had all but vanished by the time he woke up in the morgue. A boat down the River Styx, the ferryman crossed to the pier while the passenger's been asleep, letting it drift down into the midnight mists. I can see some of Seven's subconscious thoughts informing Eight's enthusiastic love of life, though. An embracing of all the little things that his predecessor felt he'd overlooked in his lifetime. Thinking about this I wonder what will influence 13’s regeneration?🤔Will it be companion deaths or something more positive like team ups with RuthDoctor?
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jul 2, 2020 13:44:45 GMT
'Tis a bit silly ("Us! Silly? On Lakertya?"), but I think the Seventh Doctor spends most of Time and the Rani, erm... well, there's no other way to say it -- heavily drugged. The Rani injects something into his arm after Urak stuns him with the net-cannon. A concotion to provoke amnesia, she claims. Before that, our darker Seventh Doctor is almost in full swing from the word "Go" (barring problems with his balance), duelling in ethics while trying to unravel her latest scheme. He's a lot sharper than I remember, come to think of it, rewatching that first scene. It works nicely for the Eighth Doctor too, on reflection. The amnesia could have come from the anaesthetic that stalled his regeneration on the operating table, but also, maybe because the Seventh Doctor's latent thoughts had all but vanished by the time he woke up in the morgue. A boat down the River Styx, the ferryman crossed to the pier while the passenger's been asleep, letting it drift down into the midnight mists. I can see some of Seven's subconscious thoughts informing Eight's enthusiastic love of life, though. An embracing of all the little things that his predecessor felt he'd overlooked in his lifetime. Thinking about this I wonder what will influence 13’s regeneration?🤔Will it be companion deaths or something more positive like team ups with RuthDoctor? Let's not talk about it yet! It won't happen for a while. I just hope we don't get her visiting every single person she knows or giving a long boring speech for ages.
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Post by timegirl on Jul 2, 2020 13:58:26 GMT
Thinking about this I wonder what will influence 13’s regeneration?🤔Will it be companion deaths or something more positive like team ups with RuthDoctor? Let's not talk about it yet! It won't happen for a while. I just hope we don't get her visiting every single person she knows or giving a long boring speech for ages. Very true, maybe she will get a few specials after series 13 before her regeneration 🤔😊
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