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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 10, 2015 18:35:18 GMT
I don't believe he is. Eccleston didn't do the 50th because he clearly doesn't care for the show. Notice, for example, how he didn't even bother to film a 'Happy birthday, Doctor Who' message for Behind The Lens? And yet he was willing to do a happy birthday message for the bfi for the 9th doctor screening. ...Where only people who went could see it. Very convenient.
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Post by randomjc on Dec 10, 2015 18:47:09 GMT
And yet he was willing to do a happy birthday message for the bfi for the 9th doctor screening. ...Where only people who went could see it. Very convenient. It was in the radio times that a message from Eccleston was read out loud. If it wasn't true or not from Eccleston, wouldn't he have spoken out about it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 19:00:24 GMT
And yet he was willing to do a happy birthday message for the bfi for the 9th doctor screening. ...Where only people who went could see it. Very convenient. What on Earth do you mean? There's been plenty of other location exclusives like the Strax stuff at cinema screenings of Day of the Doctor. You're surely not implying it didn't actually happen are you? And Ecclestone is reportedly very proud of his time as the Doctor, and apart from Capaldi is the only one I've heard of doing impromptu "in character" appearances in real life.
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Post by Ela on Dec 10, 2015 19:46:36 GMT
Could you see Christopher Eccleston doing that? Personally I couldn't. He's all about moving on and doing new things than returning to past roles and I can't imagine he'd be happy doing an audio play taking the **** out of his Doctor. You've misread randomjc's post. He wasn't suggesting Ecclestone do an audio making fun of the ninth, he was pointing out that Matthew Waterhouse was prepared to work for Big Finish even after the way they treated his character in The Boy That Time Forgot (where Andrew Sachs playe Adric) Interesting that in the recent BF podcast from Chicago TARDIS, Nick actually said that The Boy That Time Forgot was more or less a misstep that didn't come out well and did offend Matthew Waterhouse.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 10, 2015 19:55:39 GMT
...Where only people who went could see it. Very convenient. It was in the radio times that a message from Eccleston was read out loud. If it wasn't true or not from Eccleston, wouldn't he have spoken out about it? Nope because then he'd have to face fan hatred.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 10, 2015 19:56:43 GMT
...Where only people who went could see it. Very convenient. What on Earth do you mean? There's been plenty of other location exclusives like the Strax stuff at cinema screenings of Day of the Doctor. You're surely not implying it didn't actually happen are you? And Ecclestone is reportedly very proud of his time as the Doctor, and apart from Capaldi is the only one I've heard of doing impromptu "in character" appearances in real life. He has a funny way of showing being proud. Probably paid a fair sum to do the in-character stuff.
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Post by randomjc on Dec 10, 2015 20:07:30 GMT
It was in the radio times that a message from Eccleston was read out loud. If it wasn't true or not from Eccleston, wouldn't he have spoken out about it? Nope because then he'd have to face fan hatred. If he is as openly hostile to Doctor Who as you suggest, what does he care for Fan Hatred by claiming that people misrepresented him at an event? He either cares about the fans, or he doesn't. you can't have it both ways here.
So, by your logic, he will do Doctor Stuff if he's paid, so there is no problem with him coming and doing stuff for Big Finish, if he's paid.
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Post by grazey on Dec 10, 2015 20:19:51 GMT
What on Earth do you mean? There's been plenty of other location exclusives like the Strax stuff at cinema screenings of Day of the Doctor. You're surely not implying it didn't actually happen are you? And Ecclestone is reportedly very proud of his time as the Doctor, and apart from Capaldi is the only one I've heard of doing impromptu "in character" appearances in real life. He has a funny way of showing being proud. Probably paid a fair sum to do the in-character stuff. You mean like the time he helped 2 fans propose in his own time for free? Really hating fandom there
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Post by aztec on Dec 10, 2015 20:40:32 GMT
I'm sensing a running theme with your negativity. I don't see a reason Eccelston wouldn't come back given time and stability in career. He has spoken many times it was not the role that made him leave, but those in charge. If Nick Briggs and those can build a reputation with him, it's possible.
I remember a whole herd of people saying it was impossible that BF would get John Hurt...
John Hurt did enjoy his time on the show though. Christopher Eccleston didn't. John Hurt signed on to play what he probably assumed with be a one off guest role, at a late stage in his career, during a period when the new series had become a well established show with a very experienced production crew, he didn't have to carry an entire series single handedly (playing second fiddle to two others doctors) and signed on very late in the day, so was probably less aware/exposed to the stress and strains of the franchise at large, Hurt is a much older, very busy actor who doesn't do as much TV work as Eccleston, so he likely had a much different outlook on the experience. Many of the cast and crew of Series 1 are on record as stating it was a notoriously difficult, ambitious production, and Eccleston's comments on his time in the show have suggested The War Doctor is also unique in that we have only seen the very beginning and end of his story, even more so than McGann his doctor is something of a blank state, Eccleston's Doctor, on the other hand, no matter what you think of him already has a very well defined character arc in his single series. Eccleston was a in a rather different position to Hurt, when the TV Series came back in 2005 no one knew if it was going to be a hit, Eccleston's casting broke the mould some what for the Doctor (Eccleston unlike Hurt actively pursued the role), and he, the cast and crew were under enormous pressure to suceed, RTD has confirmed numerous times that Eccleston was only ever signed for the one series as no one knew whether it would be a success, when Series 2 was greenlit, he had already left, Eccleston is a very busy character actor, always looking forward to the next challenge, rather than looking back on past glories, he was never a massive fan of the show growing up, and may simply have concerns about returning to a role if he feels he has done all he could with it. Eccleston has stated numerous times he is proud of his time on the show, and loved playing the character, he had several meetings with Moffat (pre-production storyboards featuring Eccleston in Day Of The Doctor were leaked on the internet) and apparently was 'three quarters' persuaded to return to the role for the Anniversary (given that DOTD ended up reversing the destruction of Gallifrey, it somewhat undermines his character arc in Series 1 so I understand why he may have had concerns) so whilst he has currently chosen to distance himself from the role, I don't think it's out of the realms of possibility that he will return to the franchise one day, Eccleston's a busy, very private actor with his own reasons for distancing himself from the role at this point in his career, and as a fan of his doctor I choose to remember and appreciate the 13 episodes and brilliant performance Eccleston gave us, rather than regret the absence of more, he's under no obligation to provide. It took Big Finish over a decade to persuade Tom Baker, so you never know...
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Post by aztec on Dec 10, 2015 20:50:10 GMT
He has gone on record saying that he really enjoyed being the Doctor, he really wanted to be the Doctor since day one, it was just the politics behind the scenes that he didn't like. Tom Baker was no different, he left largely due to disagreements with JNT. Much like Baker, Eccleston will need some coaxing to return but it is possible given the right circumstances. I agree. I think it's up to what Nick and co can offer him to get him hooked. I suppose that if they offer him good scripts...why not? I personally would love to have the Ninth Doctor (one of the shortest tenures)on audio I still hold onto hope that someone will tackle the (according to RTD at least) implied gap of adventures/mourning for the 9th Doctor Pre-Rose someday, whether in audio, novels or comics, a 9th Doctor 'Year Zero' arc dealing with the immediate aftermath of the time war would be a fascinating area to explore (I've never bought the idea of 'Rose' being his first adventure, he seems quiet chirpy and eager to tackle problems for a man who had supposedly destroyed his home planet and entire race only a few hours before, if BF can crowbar in dozens of audios in the tiniest of gaps in Classic Chronology, I don't think we should hold onto that single, ambiguously delivered looking in the mirror reference...)...it would certainly give Eccleston something a little different to explore...
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 10, 2015 20:57:32 GMT
Nope because then he'd have to face fan hatred. If he is as openly hostile to Doctor Who as you suggest, what does he care for Fan Hatred by claiming that people misrepresented him at an event? He either cares about the fans, or he doesn't. you can't have it both ways here.
So, by your logic, he will do Doctor Stuff if he's paid, so there is no problem with him coming and doing stuff for Big Finish, if he's paid. Big Finish would have to pay him something crazy like ninety million pound.
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Post by randomjc on Dec 10, 2015 21:01:23 GMT
If he is as openly hostile to Doctor Who as you suggest, what does he care for Fan Hatred by claiming that people misrepresented him at an event? He either cares about the fans, or he doesn't. you can't have it both ways here.
So, by your logic, he will do Doctor Stuff if he's paid, so there is no problem with him coming and doing stuff for Big Finish, if he's paid. Big Finish would have to pay him something crazy like ninety million pound. I think this is where I need to step off this train. You clearly have your opinion, and no amount of outside evidence is going to sway you from it. My only advice is to stop being so oppressively negative, and have a bit of hope.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 10, 2015 22:06:19 GMT
Big Finish would have to pay him something crazy like ninety million pound. I think this is where I need to step off this train. You clearly have your opinion, and no amount of outside evidence is going to sway you from it. My only advice is to stop being so oppressively negative, and have a bit of hope. To be fair those of us who know me from other forums will agree that I'm usually the optimistic one - I was the one still saying every Doctor would appear in the 50th special right up until it aired -but with Christopher Eccleston I don't see the point in giving myself false hope for something that I believe is never going to happen. Any chances of Christopher Eccleston returning to the role were squashed when he didn't appear in Day of the Doctor.
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Post by randomjc on Dec 10, 2015 22:12:49 GMT
I think this is where I need to step off this train. You clearly have your opinion, and no amount of outside evidence is going to sway you from it. My only advice is to stop being so oppressively negative, and have a bit of hope. To be fair those of us who know me from other forums will agree that I'm usually the optimistic one - I was the one still saying every Doctor would appear in the 50th special right up until it aired -but with Christopher Eccleston I don't see the point in giving myself false hope for something that I believe is never going to happen. Any chances of Christopher Eccleston returning to the role were squashed when he didn't appear in Day of the Doctor. Honestly, that's very short sighted. Many people had the same belief when Tom Baker didn't return for the Five Doctors. What history has taught us is that just because an actor has refused to return to the show, does not mean they will never return to the character. There is no reason to be so negative about this. Especially when plenty of people have pointed out that he enjoyed the character, just not the politics of the show. It won't happen next week, or next year, but to say with such vehemence that it will NEVER happen is foolish. neither of us can see the future, but I rather have faith in a future that is full of possibilities.
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Post by grazey on Dec 10, 2015 22:46:14 GMT
If he is as openly hostile to Doctor Who as you suggest, what does he care for Fan Hatred by claiming that people misrepresented him at an event? He either cares about the fans, or he doesn't. you can't have it both ways here.
So, by your logic, he will do Doctor Stuff if he's paid, so there is no problem with him coming and doing stuff for Big Finish, if he's paid. Big Finish would have to pay him something crazy like ninety million pound. He admitted in an interview staying would have netted a lot of money so I don't think throwing money at him works in this case. Going by this I don't think Chris is the type to be lured to a role because of the size of the paycheck. Of course he wants to get paid but I don't think money is the main motivation for Chris taking on a role
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Post by Ela on Dec 11, 2015 2:19:38 GMT
I honestly don't know what is to be gained by continuing to discuss whether or not Chris Eccleston would return as the Doctor. You are all just re-stating and re-stating your own viewpoints, and it's clear you are never going to agree.
Maybe it's time for us to move on from this particular topic of discussion.
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Post by omega on Dec 11, 2015 2:29:33 GMT
I predict the official announcement of the second volume of Third Doctor Adventures. It's all been confirmed anyway since Nick has commented that the narration will be dropped. It's funny, you expect people to complain about the Doctor being unambiguously recast in a full cast story, and they end up wanting the narration gone!
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Dec 11, 2015 4:27:52 GMT
And yet he was willing to do a happy birthday message for the bfi for the 9th doctor screening. ...Where only people who went could see it. Very convenient. Fact, he did the message for the BFI sceeening. Fact, Steven Moffat has said in several interviews that he almost got CE to commit to the 50th. I know those things may be inconvenient to the narrative you chose to believe but there it is. It is very possible that a decade removed from his time in the show and his feelings about the series and The Doctor have started to soften. Speaking as someone who is pushing his mid 50s, strong emotions I had about people & experiences 5, 10 or 15 years ago don't run as hot. People do have the capacity to move on.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 6:59:26 GMT
I predict the official announcement of the second volume of Third Doctor Adventures. It's all been confirmed anyway since Nick has commented that the narration will be dropped. It's funny, you expect people to complain about the Doctor being unambiguously recast in a full cast story, and they end up wanting the narration gone! Can't wait. They were the best thing this year IMO
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Post by pawntake on Dec 11, 2015 11:49:14 GMT
The return of Sheridan Smith!(Walks away singing"Dreamin im only Dreamin")
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