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Post by timegirl on Sept 23, 2020 0:57:06 GMT
This is probably an odd idea for a thread but: Who in your opinion is the softest Doctor? The sweetest and most sensitive? The one who loves the little things in life?
Mine: 12 is the softest Doctor. He’s rough around the edges but he always tries his best even when things get hard. He is very sensitive and artistic. He does things for his companions carry Clara while she is sleeping and taking a picture of Bill’s mom and seeing the best in Missy. Not to mention he canonically loves Disney movies like Frozen!
Who do you think is the softest Doctor and why?
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Post by Digi on Sept 23, 2020 1:02:37 GMT
Davison, easy. He's like a rolled up wool sweater.
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Post by barnabaslives on Sept 23, 2020 3:40:07 GMT
Great question! I've narrowed it down now to 2, 5, 8, 11, and 12, lol. They may have to draw straws. :-)
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Sept 23, 2020 5:57:34 GMT
Davison, easy. He's like a rolled up wool sweater. The pleasure of smelling a flower, watching a sunset, eating a well-prepared meal? It's got to be 5! |
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 23, 2020 7:10:20 GMT
Tigger from Caerdroia.  Hmm... it is definitely not 10 and 11. Sixie can have a soft side. Deep down under all that bluster. But I think I also have to go with 5 here, followed by early 8. |
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Post by Jeedai on Sept 23, 2020 8:06:49 GMT
Sixie does have the most padding...
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Post by muckypup on Sept 23, 2020 8:18:56 GMT
13!
she has done everything i feared she would she plays MUM, looking after her brood, shes fine at doing it but not for me......
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Post by mark687 on Sept 23, 2020 9:30:21 GMT
5 Cricket, Tea, and happy companions is all he ever wanted  Regards mark687 |
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Post by grinch on Sept 23, 2020 9:49:36 GMT
Definitely Number Five. Although if I were given the choice of who to travel around with on that basis I’d always go with the Second Doctor.
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Post by relativetime on Sept 23, 2020 10:45:52 GMT
I’ve always had the impression that while the Fifth Doctor may appear and act like a soft and kind person, there’s a layer of darkness underneath. Maybe not to the level of the Second, Seventh or Eleventh Doctors, but definitely there. And I’d argue his niceness often borders on inaction which often causes more problems for his close ones. He may have the most restraint, but when he’s really pushed you can really see the turmoil under the surface.
I think the First, Sixth, and Twelfth Doctors ended up becoming the “softest” Doctors because while they started as incarnations that acted callous and “less soft,” I feel as though their true natures were revealed as they got older and met more people. They sometimes were “The Oncoming Storm” but those aren’t the moments that defined them as characters honestly. When I think of the First Doctor, I think of his speech to Susan; for Ol’ Sixie, I think of what he did for Evelyn at the end of The Pirates; and the Twelfth Doctor’s final hug.
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Post by timegirl on Sept 23, 2020 12:48:24 GMT
I’ve always had the impression that while the Fifth Doctor may appear and act like a soft and kind person, there’s a layer of darkness underneath. Maybe not to the level of the Second, Seventh or Eleventh Doctors, but definitely there. And I’d argue his niceness often borders on inaction which often causes more problems for his close ones. He may have the most restraint, but when he’s really pushed you can really see the turmoil under the surface. I think the First, Sixth, and Twelfth Doctors ended up becoming the “softest” Doctors because while they started as incarnations that acted callous and “less soft,” I feel as though their true natures were revealed as they got older and met more people. They sometimes were “The Oncoming Storm” but those aren’t the moments that defined them as characters honestly. When I think of the First Doctor, I think of his speech to Susan; for Ol’ Sixie, I think of what he did for Evelyn at the end of The Pirates; and the Twelfth Doctor’s final hug. That’s kind of how I feel too! There’s just something special about their arches to inner softness! |
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Post by number13 on Sept 23, 2020 13:55:57 GMT
Thirteen.
I see a lot of votes for Five. Five? No way. He seems like an Edwardian gentleman having an afternoon at the cricket, but this is the Doctor who threw a Dalek off the top floor and machine-gunned a Dalek mutant - and ask the Cyberleader how soft he thinks 'the blond one' is... Sure he likes a sunset and a well-prepared meal, but every time, it's sunset for the monsters and it's they who end up on the menu!  |
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 23, 2020 18:03:01 GMT
13! she has done everything i feared she would she plays MUM, looking after her brood, shes fine at doing it but not for me...... Nah, not really. In the last season she got quite dark and broody and kept her companions at arms length and was generally not treating them very nicely and with the sensitivity and respect they deserved.
I did not get a lot of "mum" vibes from her.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Sept 23, 2020 18:20:03 GMT
13! she has done everything i feared she would she plays MUM, looking after her brood, shes fine at doing it but not for me...... No she doesn't. She is no more protective of her companions than many other Doctors. I think you are just projecting maternal aspects onto her due to her gender. |
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Post by polly on Sept 23, 2020 20:21:45 GMT
Another vote for Fivey. He might have crossed the line in extreme circumstances, but all of the Doctors have a level of steely resolve in there somewhere. Five just wants to hang out and drink tea, he wouldn't be gunning down Cyber-Leaders if only they'd leave him alone.
The only real competition might be Two. He has the same kind demeanor and only really gets into a scrap because it's foisted upon him. But he takes more impish glee in his mischief, I think.
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Post by number13 on Sept 23, 2020 20:22:17 GMT
13! she has done everything i feared she would she plays MUM, looking after her brood, shes fine at doing it but not for me...... Nah, not really. In the last season she got quite dark and broody and kept her companions at arms length and was generally not treating them very nicely and with the sensitivity and respect they deserved.
I did not get a lot of "mum" vibes from her.
Agree. All Doctors have cared for their 'brood'; Jon Pertwee used to say he imagined his Doctor spreading his cloak protectively like 'Mother Hen'. And nobody called Three 'soft'.
I still chose Thirteen because imo the BBC tried to make the Doctor 'safe' with the writing in Season 11 especially and I can't think of any obvious reason they did that except for gender. S12 was much better than S11 but they still had the Doctor saying 'I'm a pacifist'. The Doctor has always been peace-loving, but never a pacifist. (I think it was Terrance Dicks who said that, a long time ago? Or Malcolm Hulke.)
(The above is one reason why I instantly liked Jo Martin's RuthDoctor so much. In just a few scenes we knew this Doctor would soon show any villain she was not 'safe'! My kind of Doctor!)
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Post by number13 on Sept 23, 2020 20:38:53 GMT
Another vote for Fivey. He might have crossed the line in extreme circumstances, but all of the Doctors have a level of steely resolve in there somewhere. Five just wants to hang out and drink tea, he wouldn't be gunning down Cyber-Leaders if only they'd leave him alone. The only real competition might be Two. He has the same kind demeanor and only really gets into a scrap because it's foisted upon him. But he takes more impish glee in his mischief, I think. Two is interesting. He's so kind, so much fun to be around - 'impish' sums it up perfectly. 
But he doesn't hesitate for a second when the need arises. Cybermen shot off into space or blown up, Daleks too of course. And Ice Warriors (who are alien people rather than anonymous part-metal 'monsters') fried and choked by his design. He even ejected his own human 'double' into space and didn't turn a hair. And helped Three to atomise one of the greatest of his own people.
And although he often seems more reluctant than some Doctors to get involved - mysteriously he does find trouble just as often as the rest and never walks away from it. I think the persona is all part of his misdirecting tactics to put off his enemies: 'Who me? No, I'm not dangerous or serious at all, tell them Jamie!' 'Aye well, if you say so Doctor...' ) |
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 23, 2020 20:47:19 GMT
Nah, not really. In the last season she got quite dark and broody and kept her companions at arms length and was generally not treating them very nicely and with the sensitivity and respect they deserved.
I did not get a lot of "mum" vibes from her.
Agree. All Doctors have cared for their 'brood'; Jon Pertwee used to say he imagined his Doctor spreading his cloak protectively like 'Mother Hen'. And nobody called Three 'soft'.
I still chose Thirteen because imo the BBC tried to make the Doctor 'safe' with the writing in Season 11 especially and I can't think of any obvious reason they did that except for gender. S12 was much better than S11 but they still had the Doctor saying 'I'm a pacifist'. The Doctor has always been peace-loving, but never a pacifist. (I think it was Terrance Dicks who said that, a long time ago? Or Malcolm Hulke.)
(The above is one reason why I instantly liked Jo Martin's RuthDoctor so much. In just a few scenes we knew this Doctor would soon show any villain she was not 'safe'! My kind of Doctor!)
You might be onto something. I also fell in love instantly with the RuthDoctor. She was just awesome.
I hazard a guess- if they had chosen to go for her as the new female incarnation, there might have been slightly less opposition.
But that would have meant a completely different direction.
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Post by x2magneto on Sept 23, 2020 20:49:19 GMT
5 and 8. You'll notice that they are the easiest to victimize. The vulnerability makes them two of the most compelling versions of the character, and why 5th, as wishy washy as he appears, ends up having the best stories. That's why Caves works so well. Kinda, too.
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Post by polly on Sept 23, 2020 20:59:00 GMT
Two is interesting. He's so kind, so much fun to be around - 'impish' sums it up perfectly.
But he doesn't hesitate for a second when the need arises. Cybermen shot off into space or blown up, Daleks too of course. And Ice Warriors (who are alien people rather than anonymous part-metal 'monsters') fried and choked by his design. He even ejected his own human 'double' into space and didn't turn a hair. And helped Three to atomise one of the greatest of his own people.
And although he often seems more reluctant than some Doctors to get involved - mysteriously he does find trouble just as often as the rest and never walks away from it. I think the persona is all part of his misdirecting tactics to put off his enemies: 'Who me? No, I'm not dangerous or serious at all, tell them Jamie!' 'Aye well, if you say so Doctor...' ) If I had to pick a Doctor to travel with, it would be Troughton. He really does seem to have a good time. But yes, I think a good bit of his bumbling is Columbo-style obfuscation. |
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