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Post by grinch on Nov 12, 2020 14:31:18 GMT
Currently listening to the audiobook of Clive Barker’s The Hellbound Heart. Made wonder just how you would do a pastiche of the Lament Configuration and the Cenobites. Would have to tone them down a considerable amount to work but I guess you could always reinvent them as entities from the Dark Times or something.
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Post by timegirl on Nov 12, 2020 23:00:08 GMT
This is more for BF than tv but, How the Grinch Stole Christmas pastiche with Missy told entirely in rhyme!
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Post by constonks on Nov 13, 2020 4:40:47 GMT
This is more for BF than tv but, How the Grinch Stole Christmas pastiche with Missy told entirely in rhyme! How Missy Stole Christmas is definitely a Short Trip waiting to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 9:05:21 GMT
Currently listening to the audiobook of Clive Barker’s The Hellbound Heart. Made wonder just how you would do a pastiche of the Lament Configuration and the Cenobites. Would have to tone them down a considerable amount to work but I guess you could always reinvent them as entities from the Dark Times or something. Falls the Shadow is, I think, probably the closest that Who's gotten to a Clive Barker novel. It's certainly got the Lament Configuration downpat, Gabriel and Tanith would probably have luncheon with the Cenobites. The couple are actually a bit creepier than the Cenobites. It's never clear in the context of what happens at Shadowfell whether they're a malfunctioning component of the Cathedral or if everything, including them, is functioning as intended. If you go a bit further afield, there's a group called the Eremites in Faction Paradox that travel through Labyrinths (essentially, pocket planes) rather than TARDISes, which had yet to be invented. They're a very, very early sect of monastic Gallifreyan ascetics that abandoned their homeworld after Rassilon established the Web of Time. They had such sights to show the cosmos that became impossible after the framework was established. Altogether, they bear an uncanny resemblance to the Cenobites. Their... distaste, for other life, is said to be a direct reaction to their rejection of Time Lord ideals. There were a lot of groups that split off from the Time Lords we know, at that time. The followers of Pythia fled to Karn, the cat-people withdrew into Gin-Seng, the Eremites stretched into the labyrinths, and so on.
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Post by grinch on Nov 13, 2020 10:14:30 GMT
Currently listening to the audiobook of Clive Barker’s The Hellbound Heart. Made wonder just how you would do a pastiche of the Lament Configuration and the Cenobites. Would have to tone them down a considerable amount to work but I guess you could always reinvent them as entities from the Dark Times or something. Falls the Shadow is, I think, probably the closest that Who's gotten to a Clive Barker novel. It's certainly got the Lament Configuration downpat, Gabriel and Tanith would probably have luncheon with the Cenobites. The couple are actually a bit creepier than the Cenobites. It's never clear in the context of what happens at Shadowfell whether they're a malfunctioning component of the Cathedral or if everything, including them, is functioning as intended. If you go a bit further afield, there's a group called the Eremites in Faction Paradox that travel through Labyrinths (essentially, pocket planes) rather than TARDISes, which had yet to be invented. They're a very, very early sect of monastic Gallifreyan ascetics that abandoned their homeworld after Rassilon established the Web of Time. They had such sights to show the cosmos that became impossible after the framework was established. Altogether, they bear an uncanny resemblance to the Cenobites. Their... distaste, for other life, is said to be a direct reaction to their rejection of Time Lord ideals. There were a lot of groups that split off from the Time Lords we know, at that time. The followers of Pythia fled to Karn, the cat-people withdrew into Gin-Seng, the Eremites stretched into the labyrinths, and so on. Interesting. I’d never heard of Falls the Shadow before but it says a great deal that I wasn’t surprised upon discovering it originated from the New Adventures novel range. Definitely have to give it a look sometime.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 10:28:56 GMT
Falls the Shadow is, I think, probably the closest that Who's gotten to a Clive Barker novel. It's certainly got the Lament Configuration downpat, Gabriel and Tanith would probably have luncheon with the Cenobites. The couple are actually a bit creepier than the Cenobites. It's never clear in the context of what happens at Shadowfell whether they're a malfunctioning component of the Cathedral or if everything, including them, is functioning as intended. If you go a bit further afield, there's a group called the Eremites in Faction Paradox that travel through Labyrinths (essentially, pocket planes) rather than TARDISes, which had yet to be invented. They're a very, very early sect of monastic Gallifreyan ascetics that abandoned their homeworld after Rassilon established the Web of Time. They had such sights to show the cosmos that became impossible after the framework was established. Altogether, they bear an uncanny resemblance to the Cenobites. Their... distaste, for other life, is said to be a direct reaction to their rejection of Time Lord ideals. There were a lot of groups that split off from the Time Lords we know, at that time. The followers of Pythia fled to Karn, the cat-people withdrew into Gin-Seng, the Eremites stretched into the labyrinths, and so on. Interesting. I’d never heard of Falls the Shadow before but it says a great deal that I wasn’t surprised upon discovering it originated from the New Adventures novel range. Definitely have to give it a look sometime. Oh, highly recommended. Daniel O'Mahony did two novels for the Virgin range, Falls the Shadow and The Man in the Velvet Mask. The latter is this nice "What if Ralph Smart of Danger Man directed a First Doctor story?" mixed in with imagery from a Fritz Lang film. There's a character in Velvet Mask that feels distinctly like he's being "played" by Patrick McGoohan.
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Post by grinch on Nov 13, 2020 10:59:50 GMT
Interesting. I’d never heard of Falls the Shadow before but it says a great deal that I wasn’t surprised upon discovering it originated from the New Adventures novel range. Definitely have to give it a look sometime. Oh, highly recommended. Daniel O'Mahony did two novels for the Virgin range, Falls the Shadow and The Man in the Velvet Mask. The latter is this nice "What if Ralph Smart of Danger Man directed a First Doctor story?" mixed in with imagery from a Fritz Lang film. There's a character in Velvet Mask that feels distinctly like he's being "played" by Patrick McGoohan. Daniel O’Mahony? Knew that name was familiar. I recall rather enjoying the bonus release ‘Return to the Web Planet’ that he penned. Also heard a lot of good things about Velvet Mask as well. Apparently it provided some much needed character development for Dodo which is always appreciated. Considering, you know, she didn’t really have a character.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2020 3:26:01 GMT
Oh, highly recommended. Daniel O'Mahony did two novels for the Virgin range, Falls the Shadow and The Man in the Velvet Mask. The latter is this nice "What if Ralph Smart of Danger Man directed a First Doctor story?" mixed in with imagery from a Fritz Lang film. There's a character in Velvet Mask that feels distinctly like he's being "played" by Patrick McGoohan. Daniel O’Mahony? Knew that name was familiar. I recall rather enjoying the bonus release ‘Return to the Web Planet’ that he penned. Also heard a lot of good things about Velvet Mask as well. Apparently it provided some much needed character development for Dodo which is always appreciated. Considering, you know, she didn’t really have a character. Very dark, but very good author. He also wrote a few stories for Benny Summerfield, A Tub Full of Cats and Absence. Ah, yes, poor Dodo. Brought in as a Susan surrogate, but without the compelling otherworldly element that Carole Ann Ford was able to bring to it. Ford had to play it down, unfortunately, because her original portrayal in the pilot was deemed a bit too strange for what was envisaged as an identification figure for younger members of the audience. She was retooled to be more, well, child-like, in response. Shame, really. I remember that being one of the really great things about Susan, when they let that unearthliness peek through on-screen and Ford was really good at it. Dodo's character, on the other hand... I think she's gotten a much kinder run in Expanded Universe material in terms of substance. The novels that did go for her as a character tried to flesh her out significantly. She's rather fun in the novelisation of The Ark, too (fierce tennis player, as it turns out).
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Post by timegirl on Nov 14, 2020 4:07:09 GMT
Gulliver’s Travels: honestly I am surprised that they have not done this one before!
Carie: Except the Doctor successfully talks her out her psychic rampage, to be better than her bullies’ behavior and takes her somewhere safe where her abilities will be appreciated.
Doctor Doolittle: utilizing the Doctor’s ability to speak to animals!
Lair of the white worm: You know exactly where I am going with this...
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Post by grinch on Nov 14, 2020 22:53:06 GMT
I’d be curious to see how they would do something such ‘Around the World in Eighty Days’ in the DW Universe. With the likes of a TARDIS on hand, it’d be a fairly easy task so maybe it would be more appropriate if someone such as the Paternoster Gang did it.
Imagining the group having to go on a race against time across the world to retrieve some artefact. Or with someone in pursuit of them.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Nov 21, 2020 13:40:27 GMT
A story specifically addressing the differences between a familiar figure and the historical reality - such as having the Doctor meet Charles de Batz de Castelmore d'Artagnan and having to explain to the companions why he's fighting with a gun.
(A quick Google reveals, much to my surprise, that the Three Musketeers also had historical originals - Armand de Sillegue d'Athos, Isaac de Porteau and Henri d'Aramitz).
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Post by timegirl on Nov 22, 2020 4:31:59 GMT
The little match girl, where the Doctor saves the little girl from dying.
The Cat in the Hat, with either the Doctor or Missy filling in for the cat.
The Man Who Laughs, where the Doctor befriends Grimpagn.
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Post by grinch on Nov 27, 2020 9:36:35 GMT
You Know They Got a Hell of a Band (Stephen King)
An idyllic American town populated by twisted versions of deceased musicians who lure in and ultimately trap unwary travellers?
Sounds like a Faction Paradox plot to me.
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Post by timegirl on Nov 27, 2020 15:13:54 GMT
Matilda, where the Doctor takes the girl on as a companion and the Trunchbull stand-in turns out to be an evil alien.
The Devil Wears Prada, with Missy standing in for Miranda Priestly.
Winnie the Pooh, with the twist being the the Doctor and companions are forcibly transformed into the stuffed animals from the story against their will trapped in the story with a young boy who has been there a very long time. There is also a seemingly cuddly but sinister unseen narrator who makes them play out the story. Yes, this is a cross over between the Celestial Toymaker and The Land of Fiction!
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Post by grinch on Nov 29, 2020 14:11:49 GMT
Not exactly a classic story but I reckon you do a Doctor Who spin on ‘Split’ with the character of the Eleven.
Have him be imprisoned in The Black Archive and have it be a two hander between him and a trained agent of UNIT who tries to understand his regenerative dissonance.
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Post by grinch on Nov 30, 2020 17:01:31 GMT
The End of the Whole Mess (Stephen King)
A chemical that reduces the aggressive tendencies in everything it affects? Sounds like the sort of experiment that would be done on those most hateful of creatures the Daleks. All those Daleks, unable to hate, it would drive them insane.
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Post by grinch on Dec 2, 2020 15:14:17 GMT
Any of the Friday the 13th films.
A companion of the Doctor poses as a camp councillor at a Summer Camp in the US whilst the titular Time Lords investigates rumours of a certain revenant which is said to lurk the grounds. Rumours which soon prove to be completely true when the bodies start piling up.
Obviously you could quite easily give the slasher a science fiction origin. A malfunctioning war droid, a particularly violent alien which is guarding a ship that crashed in the lake, someone who brought back to life by accidental exposure to alien tech, etc.
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Post by grinch on Dec 3, 2020 11:12:08 GMT
A Series of Unfortunate Events
Not sure how you would do this one aside from having the Doctor (or someone like River Song for example) help some orphan children who find themselves pursued by some cunning and theatrical villain.
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Post by timegirl on Dec 3, 2020 11:35:59 GMT
A Series of Unfortunate Events Not sure how you would do this one aside from having the Doctor (or someone like River Song for example) help some orphan children who find themselves pursued by some cunning and theatrical villain. Yes! I was just thinking about this too!
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Post by grinch on Dec 3, 2020 18:21:44 GMT
Remind me, has Doctor Who ever done a pastiche of Flash Gordon? Either the ‘80s film or the original serials?
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