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Post by mark687 on Sept 29, 2020 9:57:07 GMT
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Post by shallacatop on Sept 29, 2020 13:26:51 GMT
Yeah, I enjoyed this one. It's a pleasant little story. I'm not keen on pre-Rose stories, but I do like the concept of the Doctor tying up loose ends from the Time War immediately after regenerating and the imagery of him doing it in the War Doctor's outfit, though we don't get that in this particular story!
I thought Jake Dudman was good in this. It's not an impersonation, like his Tennant, Smith & Capaldi, rather he focuses on the reading and does an approximation instead. It's more akin to the affection takes from era authentic readings than, say, Dead Media, put it that way. The story not being in first person probably did wonders for that.
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Post by elkawho on Sept 29, 2020 17:30:57 GMT
This is up there with my favorites of the Short Trips range this year. It was a very good story and Dudman's Nine has come quite a long way. Interesting that we got Rose in the at the end. I tend to like it when these stories are used the way the Companions Chronicles were originally used, as ways to tell stories about Doctors that couldn't have their own full cast stories.
That being said, I do miss the more experimental stories we used to get in this range with the last 2 producers. I hope that Alfie Shaw starts to take a few more risks with it going forward.
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Post by shallacatop on Sept 29, 2020 18:30:48 GMT
That being said, I do miss the more experimental stories we used to get in this range with the last 2 producers. I hope that Alfie Shaw starts to take a few more risks with it going forward. Yeah, I was talking to a friend of mine about this earlier. The 2017/18 run, potentially even 2016, was fantastic. Experimental, a lovely variety of TARDIS teams and just some bloody good stories. The Alfie Shaw run has been disappointing to me, your bog standard Who affairs mostly, with the big impact being the stories taking a more full cast approach, yet still within the confines of one reader and roughly 30 minutes. I think that sort of gets away from what makes the Short Trips so special. The way they’re recorded doesn’t do the range much favours when they’re not so experimental too. The actors tend to record two in one day, which means you get repetition across the two consecutive series. I’m hoping the increase in remote recording means they'll be able to have a variety and feel as though Big Finish can justify half day recordings more than they have previously.
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Post by Kestrel on Oct 2, 2020 4:50:17 GMT
I wound up buying this ST the week before the 9DAs were announced, just because I was in the mood for a 9th Doctor story. Funny how much things have changed--I think I'd be less likely to buy it blind, now.
That said, wow. This is a really fun story. Maybe because it hit on some of my favorite tropes? (Full disclosure: it took me an embarassingly long time to remember that "bootstrap paradoxes" were a thing.) What can I say? It was one of those stories that just gave me a big ol' smile. Well, maybe it was one of those stories, or maybe it was the painkillers, or maybe some combination of the two. But still.
That scene where the Doctor sits down and just... has a calm chat with the would-be antagonist? And he lays everything out there? As they talk their way through the bizarre situation they find themselves in? Sold freakin' gold. This is the kind of thing I love best about Doctor Who.
I adored it. I did.
But, I've gotta wonder... this surely can't be the first time the Doctor visited Krakatoa, right? This franchise -loves- volcanoes, after all.
And is it just me or did the "atmosphere annihilator" seem kind of... impotent for "time war artillery?" It just seems... really conventional, as-described. I'd expect something more... temporal.
But I do love the idea of the 9th Doctor running around dealing with fallout from the Time War. I hope they go in a similar direction with the 9DAs. I just hope that includes social and political fallout, and not just old weapons or warped battlefields.
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Post by mark687 on Oct 2, 2020 13:21:22 GMT
I wound up buying this ST the week before the 9DAs were announced, just because I was in the mood for a 9th Doctor story. Funny how much things have changed--I think I'd be less likely to buy it blind, now. That said, wow. This is a really fun story. Maybe because it hit on some of my favorite tropes? (Full disclosure: it took me an embarassingly long time to remember that "bootstrap paradoxes" were a thing.) What can I say? It was one of those stories that just gave me a big ol' smile. Well, maybe it was one of those stories, or maybe it was the painkillers, or maybe some combination of the two. But still. That scene where the Doctor sits down and just... has a calm chat with the would-be antagonist? And he lays everything out there? As they talk their way through the bizarre situation they find themselves in? Sold freakin' gold. This is the kind of thing I love best about Doctor Who. I adored it. I did. But, I've gotta wonder... this surely can't be the first time the Doctor visited Krakatoa, right? This franchise -loves- volcanoes, after all.
And is it just me or did the "atmosphere annihilator" seem kind of... impotent for "time war artillery?" It just seems... really conventional, as-described. I'd expect something more... temporal. But I do love the idea of the 9th Doctor running around dealing with fallout from the Time War. I hope they go in a similar direction with the 9DAs. I just hope that includes social and political fallout, and not just old weapons or warped battlefields. Significant mention of it in by the 3rd Doctor in the TV Story Inferno. Regards mark687
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Post by grinch on Oct 2, 2020 22:20:59 GMT
An extremely impressive first contribution from Amy Veeres. As well as a lot of lovely little moments of introspection for the Ninth. I can only hope next years Ninth Doctor Adventures match the calibre of this Short Trip when it comes to writing.
Considering we seem to be going through the checklist of Clive’s sightings of the Doctor I take it we will soon have a Short Trip involving the Kennedy assassination somewhere down the line?
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Post by Ian McArdell on Oct 7, 2020 14:38:57 GMT
My take on 'Her Own Bootstraps' is now up at CultBox - an enjoyable character piece.
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Post by Who Review on Oct 9, 2020 9:34:02 GMT
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Post by barnabaslives on Oct 22, 2020 9:55:32 GMT
Just getting around to hearing this. Agreed with others that it's a wonderful story and I liked the way it ended, which came as a surprise.
Mixed feelings about Jake's rendition of the Ninth Doctor - on one hand, I appreciated that it's more a portrayal than an impersonation, but I think I prefer Nick's take in the Chronicles - I think it comes down to that if I heard a 3-second clip of Jake I don't think I'd quite know what character I was hearing. All in all, I don't think I was quite buying it that I was hearing Nine.
It's okay, though - I'm hugely impressed with Jake's renditions of other Doctors, including that I probably think more highly of his Twelfth Doctor than many, from the sound of it. I also wished this story had gone on longer, which I think says something good for both the story and performance.
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Post by grinch on Oct 29, 2020 12:25:37 GMT
Just remembered, you could probably get a few Short Trips from the events the Doctor mentions in The Unquiet Dead. World War V, the Boston Tea Party, etc.
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Post by nottenst on Nov 10, 2020 18:46:16 GMT
Just listened to this story. I enjoyed it quite a lot. It did make me think of the "A Christmas Carol" episode a little, but it approached affecting changes in a person's timeline quite differently. [And while sitting here I decided to listen to the beginning and the end again  ]
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Nov 10, 2020 20:58:52 GMT
I liked it a lot as well, it’s a great character study of the ninth Doctor - he is a good man trying to do his best but his darker nature keeps trying to twist things into taking the extremis option each time so he fights against that with hope.
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