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Post by timegirl on Oct 16, 2020 21:06:44 GMT
What are some aspects of DW that should not work but do?
Also what is something that you would love DW to do that would be potentially very difficult to pull off but you want to see/hear/read anyways?
These could be anything from a monster to a whole story line to just a moment.
Mine: Daleks, they are shouty trash cans with plungers! They should absolutely not work at all. But yet they are iconic and often terrifying villains!
Last Christmas, a Christmas special that combines Santa Claus, Alien, and Inception is a completely bizarre combination! But it is also one of not just my all time favorite Who Christmas episodes but favorite episodes of Who period! Plus the ending always makes me cry!
Something that would be difficult to pull off but I would like to see/hear is an incarnation of the Doctor taking on a temporary alternate form and see how they deal with it.
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Post by grinch on Oct 16, 2020 21:14:12 GMT
I’d agree with you with regards to the Daleks. A lot of the reason they work is I think due to the writing and performances of all the operators/voices over the years. I think as well we have to remember that they probably resonated much more with a ‘60s audience when first introduced because of how parallels could be drawn to the fascists who were active during the relatively then recent Second World War.
Personally I think The Mind Robber (and to a greater extent The Land of Fiction) is a good example of something that works yet shouldn’t. Having the Doctor and co literally wander through a fairytale land of make believe should be overly saccharine and twee, resembling something out of TV Comic more than anything else, but there is a certain eeriness and sense of atmosphere in that original episode (especially that first part in the void) that makes it work so well. The black and white does help as well I find.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Oct 16, 2020 21:29:44 GMT
The fact that sometime the resolution to a cliffhanger is not defeating the monster but rather telling it to go to it’s room, or singing Revolution 9.... Doctor Wh po exists in a fictional context whereby cleverness not feats of arms or great endeavours resolves the issue.
The best summation is that Internet meme of Boromir saying “one does not simply walk into Mordor” followed by a photo of Tombo and the line “simply walks into Mordor and offers Sauron a jelly baby”, becaus that is TOTALLY what the Doctor would do but it subverts the entire plot of LOTR,
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Post by timegirl on Oct 16, 2020 22:12:16 GMT
I’d agree with you with regards to the Daleks. A lot of the reason they work is I think due to the writing and performances of all the operators/voices over the years. I think as well we have to remember that they probably resonated much more with a ‘60s audience when first introduced because of how parallels could be drawn to the fascists who were active during the relatively then recent Second World War. Personally I think The Mind Robber (and to a greater extent The Land of Fiction) is a good example of something that works yet shouldn’t. Having the Doctor and co literally wander through a fairytale land of make believe should be overly saccharine and twee, resembling something out of TV Comic more than anything else, but there is a certain eeriness and sense of atmosphere in that original episode (especially that first part in the void) that makes it work so well. The black and white does help as well I find. I definitely agree about Mind Robber! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 7:49:41 GMT
What are some aspects of DW that should not work but do? Also what is something that you would love DW to do that would be potentially very difficult to pull off but you want to see/hear/read anyways? These could be anything from a monster to a whole story line to just a moment. Mine: Daleks, they are shouty trash cans with plungers! They should absolutely not work at all. But yet they are iconic and often terrifying villains! Last Christmas, a Christmas special that combines Santa Claus, Alien, and Inception is a completely bizarre combination! But it is also one of not just my all time favorite Who Christmas episodes but favorite episodes of Who period! Plus the ending always makes me cry! Something that would be difficult to pull off but I would like to see/hear is an incarnation of the Doctor taking on a temporary alternate form and see how they deal with it. I think the Dalek's, especially when you see the early sketches, were absolutely down to Ray Cusick's iconic (nay Genius) design. A masterpiece of simplicity, symmetry and visual efficiency that anyone could reproduce in sketch form. So impressive that it turns out that their iconic 'about the town' photo shoot took place before they had even been seen on screen (so they guessed they had a winner with them):    |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 9:45:56 GMT
Regeneration! You can't change the lead actor and replace him with someone completely different and expect the show to continue ... oh, you can!
The TARDIS! A space/time ship that's bigger on the inside that looks like a telephone box? If someone suggested that as a premise for a new show these days, it would never get past the front door. I mean, it's ridiculous, isn't it? It would never work - oh, it does.
Two unlikely plot devices have become two of the highlights in Doctor Who. I think, once you can convince an audience of these things, you can do anything and go anywhere. And it has!
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There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Oct 17, 2020 10:50:18 GMT
Time travel. It's never really been explored consistently until the revived series, but it was mostly used only as a vehicle to get the cast from one adventure to another. A show about untrained people travelling through time and space should be filled with a lot more paradoxes and conundrums than we've had.
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Post by timegirl on Oct 17, 2020 12:07:49 GMT
It’s interesting how a lot of the very basic aspects of the premise of DW shouldn’t work but do! Everything from the Doctor regenerating to the TARDIS sound crazy but yet somehow they have been doing them for almost 60 years!
Is there anything you would love for DW to try that would be potentially very difficult to pull off convincingly and be accepted by audiences but you would still want to see/hear/read?
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