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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Nov 11, 2020 9:45:51 GMT
The people of Wrax are happy to begin peaceful negotiations with the Dalek Empire. The two species are preparing to engage in an alliance that will last throughout the ages.
The only one who seems to object to this happy union is the Doctor. He knows that you can never trust the Daleks.
But more than that, he knows that the Wraxians should never have existed…
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Post by sherlock on Nov 11, 2020 11:06:21 GMT
I think that was good, if unspectacular. I enjoyed how the Daleks came across as indidviduals, with Nick Briggs suitably adapting each voice, and there’s a nice moment at the end to remind us they are utterly evil. The Eighth Doctor came across well, there’s a certain weariness in McGann’s performance here which fits latter-day Eight and he got some nice bits towards the end.
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Post by theillusiveman on Nov 11, 2020 11:40:05 GMT
14 mins in its rather enjoyable so far
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Post by theillusiveman on Nov 11, 2020 12:55:18 GMT
Okay just finished listening to the enemy of my enemy so far the best of the 8th Doctor Time Lord Victorious Trilogy The Dalek Time Squad was well executed- i like how they had different personalities and very individualistic Paul McGann gave a great performance as always i like the team up between the doctor and the Daleks it was a good sparring of dialogue the whole mystery of Wrex was intriguing and kept me invested in the story sound design was also good
then i listened to the ending and it was crap i rolled my eyes at how cliche it became don't get me wrong i look forward to the next part but i felt that the ending kinda soured the whole thing
original score 9 out of 10 after ending score 7.5 out of 10
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Post by shallacatop on Nov 11, 2020 16:08:22 GMT
Enjoyed this one. Nothing amazing, but substantial with plenty to like and it feels a little more tied in with the bigger story than He Kills Me, He Kills Me Not. There's a couple of nice moments where references click and it's rewarding. Paul McGann is on fine form with a weary, almost distanced and disinterested portrayal of the Doctor that builds up nicely to a rousing speech that's almost a throwback to his earlier self. The real star of the show is Nicholas Briggs, who gives each Dalek in the Time Squad a distinct portrayal with different tones and personalities. It's got me looking forward to the Dalek! animated series more than I was already. We've got Daleks that sound exactly how they would on screen post-2005, with the proper extermination sound, movement of their appendages, moving across a surface and the Dalek control room heartbeat. This may read as odd, as we've had all of this in Big Finish before, but I've always felt it's been a little inconsistent; sometimes the sounds wouldn't be there, sometimes they vary the extermination sound, etc. They've never been better realised on audio than here and that's entirely down to the consistent SFX and voice work. I was actually surprised that they didn't directly tie-in to the end of The Knight, The Fool and The Dead. I'd have thought that would've made a very effective cliffhanger and encouraged you to buy that and/or All Flesh is Grass. I foresee some people this time next month complaining that Mutually Assured Destruction doesn't pick up from The Enemy of My Enemy, as it's not clear.
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Post by sherlock on Nov 11, 2020 16:24:12 GMT
Enjoyed this one. Nothing amazing, but substantial with plenty to like and it feels a little more tied in with the bigger story than He Kills Me, He Kills Me Not. There's a couple of nice moments where references click and it's rewarding. Paul McGann is on fine form with a weary, almost distanced and disinterested portrayal of the Doctor that builds up nicely to a rousing speech that's almost a throwback to his earlier self. The real star of the show is Nicholas Briggs, who gives each Dalek in the Time Squad a distinct portrayal with different tones and personalities. It's got me looking forward to the Dalek! animated series more than I was already. We've got Daleks that sound exactly how they would on screen post-2005, with the proper extermination sound, movement of their appendages, moving across a surface and the Dalek control room heartbeat. This may read as odd, as we've had all of this in Big Finish before, but I've always felt it's been a little inconsistent; sometimes the sounds wouldn't be there, sometimes they vary the extermination sound, etc. They've never been better realised on audio than here and that's entirely down to the consistent SFX and voice work. I was actually surprised that they didn't directly tie-in to the end of The Knight, The Fool and The Dead. I'd have thought that would've made a very effective cliffhanger and encouraged you to buy that and/or All Flesh is Grass. I foresee some people this time next month complaining that Mutually Assured Destruction doesn't pick up from The Enemy of My Enemy, as it's not clear. {Spoiler} I’m guessing All Flesh is Grass will backtrack a bit and fill in how Eight and the Daleks got from here to the cliffhanger of Knight, Fool, Dead,. Though who knows, maybe DWM tomorrow will show them bumping into Nine.
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Post by shallacatop on Nov 11, 2020 16:27:10 GMT
Enjoyed this one. Nothing amazing, but substantial with plenty to like and it feels a little more tied in with the bigger story than He Kills Me, He Kills Me Not. There's a couple of nice moments where references click and it's rewarding. Paul McGann is on fine form with a weary, almost distanced and disinterested portrayal of the Doctor that builds up nicely to a rousing speech that's almost a throwback to his earlier self. The real star of the show is Nicholas Briggs, who gives each Dalek in the Time Squad a distinct portrayal with different tones and personalities. It's got me looking forward to the Dalek! animated series more than I was already. We've got Daleks that sound exactly how they would on screen post-2005, with the proper extermination sound, movement of their appendages, moving across a surface and the Dalek control room heartbeat. This may read as odd, as we've had all of this in Big Finish before, but I've always felt it's been a little inconsistent; sometimes the sounds wouldn't be there, sometimes they vary the extermination sound, etc. They've never been better realised on audio than here and that's entirely down to the consistent SFX and voice work. I was actually surprised that they didn't directly tie-in to the end of The Knight, The Fool and The Dead. I'd have thought that would've made a very effective cliffhanger and encouraged you to buy that and/or All Flesh is Grass. I foresee some people this time next month complaining that Mutually Assured Destruction doesn't pick up from The Enemy of My Enemy, as it's not clear. {Spoiler} I’m guessing All Flesh is Grass will backtrack a bit and fill in how Eight and the Daleks got from here to the cliffhanger of Knight, Fool, Dead,. Though who knows, maybe DWM tomorrow will show them bumping into Nine. Very true and both are equally possible. I was just thinking from the perspective of someone who's only listening to the Big Finish content; I'd imagine there's a sizeable amount for it to matter.
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Post by sherlock on Nov 11, 2020 16:35:33 GMT
{Spoiler} I’m guessing All Flesh is Grass will backtrack a bit and fill in how Eight and the Daleks got from here to the cliffhanger of Knight, Fool, Dead,. Though who knows, maybe DWM tomorrow will show them bumping into Nine. Very true and both are equally possible. I was just thinking from the perspective of someone who's only listening to the Big Finish content; I'd imagine there's a sizeable amount for it to matter. Tbh I was somewhat surprised they didn’t point out in the behind the scenes that to find out what happens next to Eight in the Dark Times, get All Flesh is Grass. Who knows maybe Mutually Assured Destruction will bridge that gap somehow.
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Post by elkawho on Nov 11, 2020 21:28:43 GMT
That was quite good. Much, much better than He Kills Me, He Kills Me Not. I find it interesting shallacatop that you heard McGann as weary, distanced and disinterested. That is how I heard him in the last story, but I didn't hear any of that in this one. When he first meets the Daleks in this one he seems to be having a ball with them, verbally running them in circles to keep them from shooting. His manner reminding me very much of 10 at the start, with that same confidence and contempt. The soundscape was particularly good. I could clearly see the entire first 5 minutes beat by beat in my head. The Doctor invading the Executioner's space was wonderfully done. And seriously, why do they need an Executioner? Aren't they all executioners? No feeling of disconnection between the actors in this one as I felt in the last one. The story flowed with an ease that felt like comfortable Doctor Who, which is not to say that it felt done before. But McGann has that silky, seductive quality in his voice when he's on form that just allows you to sink into the story. I agree that Nick was excellent. I like sneaky, deceiving Daleks much better than the shouty killing machines we usually get. All in all a good, fun bit of Doctor Who. That's two good ones in a row. Keep 'em coming BF!
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Post by barnabaslives on Nov 12, 2020 10:16:51 GMT
That was quite good. Much, much better than He Kills Me, He Kills Me Not. I find it interesting shallacatop that you heard McGann as weary, distanced and disinterested. That is how I heard him in the last story, but I didn't hear any of that in this one... But McGann has that silky, seductive quality in his voice when he's on form that just allows you to sink into the story. I agree that Nick was excellent. I like sneaky, deceiving Daleks much better than the shouty killing machines we usually get. All in all a good, fun bit of Doctor Who. That's two good ones in a row. Keep 'em coming BF! My experience exactly. I though Paul sounded notably weary in the first part, but refreshed and engaged and on top of the situation here. Also very much agreed with others' comments about the Daleks in this. I don't know what it is exactly but somehow they sounded a lot less monotonous to me here than they often do, and devious rather than shouty. All of that made for a truly excellent production as far as I'm concerned, my only possible complaint would be that it felt just a bit of a whirlwind ending - things seem to wrap up just a little too quickly and a little too neatly, although I do like the way the story ended.
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Post by IndieMacUser on Nov 12, 2020 10:22:19 GMT
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Post by nottenst on Nov 12, 2020 16:40:43 GMT
Trying to be up to date with TLV and listened to this today. I thought it was well done. Like theillusiveman I was disappointed with the ending there, but I guess they wanted to show again how evil the Daleks are. I believe they referred back to the Kotturuh from Lesser Evils in this one.
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Post by Ian McArdell on Nov 14, 2020 22:49:39 GMT
Well, I rather enjoyed this - a great introduction to the Prime Strategist and some interesting ideas at play. Role on December! My take is up at CultBox.
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Post by tuigirl on Nov 15, 2020 17:26:52 GMT
Just finished it. It was interesting. It was a nice little B-movie plot playing out- something I need to be in the mood for. Luckily, today was a day where some B-movie material was just what I needed. I find it interesting that last time we got a Western (kind of) and now we got a sci-fi B movie. I wonder what they go for next? I found it enjoyable and I also appreciated that Nick was doing something different with the Daleks and really made an effort for them to be all very distinct.
Otherwise... have I mentioned lately that I am a bit tired of Daleks?
Plus, Nick also playing one of the characters... really threw me out of the story. I know, lockdown and small casts and so on... but since Nick is so distinctive, and a big part of the release was Nick already talking to himself a lot, having him also play another character was... distracting.
I am still not overly thrilled by the TLV event, but at least this was enjoyable enough.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Nov 15, 2020 17:43:34 GMT
Just finished it. It was interesting. It was a nice little B-movie plot playing out- something I need to be in the mood for. Luckily, today was a day where some B-movie material was just what I needed. I find it interesting that last time we got a Western (kind of) and now we got a sci-fi B movie. I wonder what they go for next? I found it enjoyable and I also appreciated that Nick was doing something different with the Daleks and really made an effort for them to be all very distinct. Otherwise... have I mentioned lately that I am a bit tired of Daleks? Plus, Nick also playing one of the characters... really threw me out of the story. I know, lockdown and small casts and so on... but since Nick is so distinctive, and a big part of the release was Nick already talking to himself a lot, having him also play another character was... distracting. I am still not overly thrilled by the TLV event, but at least this was enjoyable enough. Oh dear with Nick in the cast as a non-Dalek character this has pretty much sealed the deal for me. One to avoid. So far I have found the TLV event quite average.
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Post by tuigirl on Nov 15, 2020 18:06:36 GMT
Just finished it. It was interesting. It was a nice little B-movie plot playing out- something I need to be in the mood for. Luckily, today was a day where some B-movie material was just what I needed. I find it interesting that last time we got a Western (kind of) and now we got a sci-fi B movie. I wonder what they go for next? I found it enjoyable and I also appreciated that Nick was doing something different with the Daleks and really made an effort for them to be all very distinct. Otherwise... have I mentioned lately that I am a bit tired of Daleks? Plus, Nick also playing one of the characters... really threw me out of the story. I know, lockdown and small casts and so on... but since Nick is so distinctive, and a big part of the release was Nick already talking to himself a lot, having him also play another character was... distracting. I am still not overly thrilled by the TLV event, but at least this was enjoyable enough. Oh dear with Nick in the cast as a non-Dalek character this has pretty much sealed the deal for me. One to avoid. So far I have found the TLV event quite average. I did not say he was bad. But he is basically... Nick.
That's all.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Nov 15, 2020 18:16:40 GMT
Oh dear with Nick in the cast as a non-Dalek character this has pretty much sealed the deal for me. One to avoid. So far I have found the TLV event quite average. I did not say he was bad. But he is basically... Nick.
That's all.
Which is bad lol. He cannot act!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 18:30:26 GMT
I did not say he was bad. But he is basically... Nick.
That's all.
Which is bad lol. He cannot act! Is it really that he cannot act or is it that he just has such a distinctive vocal? Ok he isn’t my favourite Sherlock but he is BFs Sherlock and any other character he plays becomes distracting to me and throws me completely out of a story. Bf being a company that probably survives on the same buyers buying different ranges has to know this and should avoid it. Louise Jameson is Leela and Omega Factor and when she appears in other ranges it to is distracting .... Alexander Vlahos is Dorian and also Bertie Potts and Hamlet...and to be honest it is enough.Stop Using the same actors unless they can really alter their voices same with Lisa...she is Ellie and Bernice and that should be enough unless she can alter her range of vocal abilities...am I cruel? But like am saying it’s because we buy most of the ranges this becomes annoying anyone only investing in one range in one company probably wouldn’t bother about it. It isn’t as if there aren’t enough starving actors out there who would jump at the chance....or maybe they just demand too much money lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 18:31:15 GMT
...as for TLV apart from the book ...I have ventured no further and cannot say I am eager to.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Nov 15, 2020 18:53:32 GMT
Which is bad lol. He cannot act! Is it really that he cannot act or is it that he just has such a distinctive vocal? It is really that he cannot act.
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