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Post by mark687 on Nov 11, 2020 20:20:20 GMT
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Nov 11, 2020 20:44:29 GMT
me neither, I don't think he's very good as Matt.
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Post by relativetime on Nov 11, 2020 20:58:34 GMT
Yeah, I’m REALLY on the fence about this one.
On the one hand, I adore the Eleventh Doctor and I want to be thrilled about full-cast Eleventh Doctor stories coming to Big Finish. I can see why they’re doing it and I would certainly hope it makes them loads of money to spend on making even more brilliant material.
But no Matt Smith?
I’ve said it somewhere before I’m sure but I’ll say it again: there’s nothing wrong with Jake Dudman. He’s got some real talent and I’ve always thought his Eleventh Doctor impression in particular has been great. With even more time, I’m sure it’ll be even better as a performance.
What I keep coming back to though is that it’s still an impression and I would be much happier I think if we kept the old format until Matt Smith himself actually joins the crew. More importantly, why are we being so quick to jump into full-cast stories with the Eleventh Doctor? We didn’t do this for the Ninth or Tenth Doctors and frankly there was way more reason to believe they should have done so for the Ninth Doctor until this year.
I’m fully aware this makes me sound like a spoiled little fanboy, but I just think it takes some of the thunder away from Matt Smith it he ever decides to join Big Finish - I just feel like it’d be less of an event and it bothers me because I really am such a big fan of this incarnation of the Doctor and I think he deserves that sort of respect.
I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. Matt Smith is a very busy actor, I get it, and for all I know he may have definitively shot down the chance of ever returning in harsher terms than Eccleston. We don’t even have his blessings - which I get might seem silly for something as trivial as an audio drama to some people, but then again I feel as though many recasts Big Finish have done have where the actor is still alive have at least gotten as much.
I’m not saying this is a hard no from me, but I can’t think of any other Big Finish release I’ve felt this skeptical about in recent memory.
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Post by grinch on Nov 11, 2020 20:59:38 GMT
I seem to recall enjoying The Calendar Man from the first Eleventh Doctor Chronicles so I’ll give this a look at least.
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Post by shallacatop on Nov 11, 2020 21:04:04 GMT
Just going to copy what I said in the Updates thread, as it feels more appropriate here:
The most exciting thing about this release is the variety of writers.
I like Dudman and I don’t mind his take on Eleven, but I don’t think it’s a proper acting performance, it’s an impression, albeit an impressive one. I think I said as much when Regeneration Impossible was released. It’s the exact same for his Ten. His Twelve doesn’t even have the luxury of being a good impression.
The narrated elements of a Chronicle or a Short Trip allows for experimental stories and some weird and wonderful things that you wouldn’t typically, if ever, get with full cast adventures. It’s a niche vs mainstream type argument, I guess. It’s that variety of storytelling and writers which makes them appealing, not the main star. I suppose it’s like breaking the range down into those two elements and running away with what I think is the poorer one.
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Post by Tim Bradley on Nov 11, 2020 21:20:42 GMT
Hello everyone! I have enjoyed 'The Doctor Chronicles' and Jacob Dudman had certainly shone throughout the recent three releases. With that said, I'm not in a hurry to purchase the second volume of 'The Eleventh Doctor Chronicles'. I might change my mind about that by the time the second volume is released in September 2021. I could purchase it as a download instead of a CD box set. But it's not a high priority. Maybe when BF announces another 'Doctor Who' CD collection starring David Tennant, I might be encouraged to purchase 'The Eleventh Doctor Chronicles', Volume 2. Let's see what happens. Tim.
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Post by mbt66 on Nov 11, 2020 21:21:18 GMT
The Eleventh Doctor is my favourite Nu Who Doctor. I was really impressed with the first Eleventh Doctor Chronicles set, despite initially saying I could wait for Matt Smith to join Big Finish.
But I was won over by that first volume and was eagerly awaiting more....but the change of format, the loss of any returning characters from the show and stories that do not excite me, at least based on the write up, has left me feeling that this second volume will need to convince me to buy it all over again.
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Post by elkawho on Nov 11, 2020 21:40:12 GMT
I feel like BF as a rule is moving away from narration and has been since the backlash when the Third Doctor Adventures, Vol. One was released. I think it might be a misstep here. The Chronicles ranges have a history with narration, and given that they are still holding the door open for Matt Smith, it's a little too close to a full recast for my liking. I'll probably still listen to it. I like Dudman and enjoyed the first volume, The Top of The Tree was a wonderful story in any format. But it does feel a bit odd.
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Post by grinch on Nov 11, 2020 21:49:26 GMT
Heh. Just been reading the description for the first story and they really missed a trick not calling the research station ‘Romero’
Perhaps they would have been too obvious though.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Nov 11, 2020 21:57:48 GMT
Interesting marketing choice with the header of the news article:
"THE ELEVENTH DOCTOR RETURNS TO AUDIO"
I automatically assumed "the obvious" when I read it at 5:30am (3 hrs ago).
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Post by theillusiveman on Nov 11, 2020 22:57:59 GMT
I wonder if that means we can Christopher Thompson to do full cast 12th Doctor chronicles now
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Post by theillusiveman on Nov 11, 2020 23:02:56 GMT
But yeah I guess It’s a cool idea for full casts and Well Matt Smith seems to be really busy or want to distance himself from who So I guess it’s up to dudman and big finish to fill the gap Not sure if we will get any old or familiar characters in Vol 2 so far
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Post by xlozdob on Nov 12, 2020 16:15:24 GMT
I personally think this set looks superb. I've never been a fan of a mixed narrated style, so the move to a more full-cast style is welcome. The stories sound brilliant and they have a couple of new writers, which is always exciting. I, for one, am not willing to wait until Smith decides his career is at a point where he can lower himself to do audio work (as if it's any lesser), *if* that ever even happens, to enjoy some more 11th Doctor stories. I'm really excited for his upcoming Edgar Wright movie, mind. But I'm happy we're being given the opportunity to do so by Big Finish.
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Post by ollychops on Nov 12, 2020 16:39:18 GMT
Yeah, I’m REALLY on the fence about this one. On the one hand, I adore the Eleventh Doctor and I want to be thrilled about full-cast Eleventh Doctor stories coming to Big Finish. I can see why they’re doing it and I would certainly hope it makes them loads of money to spend on making even more brilliant material. But no Matt Smith? I’ve said it somewhere before I’m sure but I’ll say it again: there’s nothing wrong with Jake Dudman. He’s got some real talent and I’ve always thought his Eleventh Doctor impression in particular has been great. With even more time, I’m sure it’ll be even better as a performance. What I keep coming back to though is that it’s still an impression and I would be much happier I think if we kept the old format until Matt Smith himself actually joins the crew. More importantly, why are we being so quick to jump into full-cast stories with the Eleventh Doctor? We didn’t do this for the Ninth or Tenth Doctors and frankly there was way more reason to believe they should have done so for the Ninth Doctor until this year. I’m fully aware this makes me sound like a spoiled little fanboy, but I just think it takes some of the thunder away from Matt Smith it he ever decides to join Big Finish - I just feel like it’d be less of an event and it bothers me because I really am such a big fan of this incarnation of the Doctor and I think he deserves that sort of respect. I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. Matt Smith is a very busy actor, I get it, and for all I know he may have definitively shot down the chance of ever returning in harsher terms than Eccleston. We don’t even have his blessings - which I get might seem silly for something as trivial as an audio drama to some people, but then again I feel as though many recasts Big Finish have done have where the actor is still alive have at least gotten as much. I’m not saying this is a hard no from me, but I can’t think of any other Big Finish release I’ve felt this skeptical about in recent memory. Pretty much hit it on the head for me. Eleven is my favourite Doctor and as much as I'd love new stories with him, I can't really get on board with this. Jacob is great and I loved him narrating the previous Chronicles, but I'm not a fan of recasting living Doctors. I didn't mind him doing his impressions for the narrated stories but full-cast is a different matter. Also IMO, this kind of takes away the excitement if/when Matt Smith does join BF because we'll have already had full-cast adventures with Eleven...
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Nov 12, 2020 16:49:23 GMT
Yeah, I’m REALLY on the fence about this one. On the one hand, I adore the Eleventh Doctor and I want to be thrilled about full-cast Eleventh Doctor stories coming to Big Finish. I can see why they’re doing it and I would certainly hope it makes them loads of money to spend on making even more brilliant material. But no Matt Smith? I’ve said it somewhere before I’m sure but I’ll say it again: there’s nothing wrong with Jake Dudman. He’s got some real talent and I’ve always thought his Eleventh Doctor impression in particular has been great. With even more time, I’m sure it’ll be even better as a performance. What I keep coming back to though is that it’s still an impression and I would be much happier I think if we kept the old format until Matt Smith himself actually joins the crew. More importantly, why are we being so quick to jump into full-cast stories with the Eleventh Doctor? We didn’t do this for the Ninth or Tenth Doctors and frankly there was way more reason to believe they should have done so for the Ninth Doctor until this year. I’m fully aware this makes me sound like a spoiled little fanboy, but I just think it takes some of the thunder away from Matt Smith it he ever decides to join Big Finish - I just feel like it’d be less of an event and it bothers me because I really am such a big fan of this incarnation of the Doctor and I think he deserves that sort of respect. I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. Matt Smith is a very busy actor, I get it, and for all I know he may have definitively shot down the chance of ever returning in harsher terms than Eccleston. We don’t even have his blessings - which I get might seem silly for something as trivial as an audio drama to some people, but then again I feel as though many recasts Big Finish have done have where the actor is still alive have at least gotten as much. I’m not saying this is a hard no from me, but I can’t think of any other Big Finish release I’ve felt this skeptical about in recent memory. Agree with a lot here. 11 is one of the best Doctors, fact. & if one day Matt does decide to do BF who will go back to listen to this? I don't like the narrated tales but feel maybe that is what they should have stuck with for 11 rather than full cast with a recast. I don't mind recasts if the actor in question has sadly passed but just wait BF! Wait!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2020 22:49:58 GMT
Can't say this interests me in the slightest but Big Finish must think they have a market for their 'treading water until Matt Smith joins' 11th Doctor releases with Jake Dudman, so good luck to them. I'm sure there's a lot of people that will like it as Jake Dudman does okay with the voice for the Eleventh Doctor. It's not a format I'd spend my money on though.
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Post by mark687 on Nov 14, 2020 15:09:17 GMT
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Post by shallacatop on Nov 14, 2020 15:54:37 GMT
That first line of dialogue sounds odd, almost muffled. Might be a reason for it in the story but it’s not clear listening to the soundbite.
Still, top marks for mentioning The Smiths.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2020 16:16:48 GMT
me neither, I don't think he's very good as Matt. I actually quite enjoyed his attempt and I will probably get this one although I must admit when Matt and Karen return it will be a must buy and I hope as successful as Karen has become now that she won’t forget her acting roots and with remote recording hey ..... as long as the stories are good hope they are saving some great scripts for his return too
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Post by cwm on Nov 14, 2020 16:19:03 GMT
I think Karen is a very, very big "if". She's far and away the biggest success story of all the new series leads.
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