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Post by xlozdob on Nov 20, 2020 18:53:30 GMT
Has the name Koschei ever been used in a Big Finish play? Would you be okay with Milo Parker's Master being referred to as Koschei in Masterful? (If it is indeed the Academy incarnation he's playing).
And, slightly
tangentially, has any of the other Deca members been mentioned? Meaning, the ones that haven't later appeared during the Doctor's travels.
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Post by commonman on Nov 20, 2020 21:51:13 GMT
Yes according to the wiki (i'll double check).
in Neverland, the Deca included: The Doctor, Vansell, Ushas, Koschei, Jelpax and Magnus (EDIT: that was a deleted line from the script but not in the episode: "This isn't an impromptu reunion, then? No Ushas, no Koschei, no Jelpax or Magnus? No more of the Deca? VANSELL: No, Doctor."
And in The Rani Elite: The Doctor, Drax, Mortimus, Vansell, Ushas (aka the Rani)
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Post by mark687 on Nov 20, 2020 22:02:24 GMT
Also According to Narvin in Dark Eyes 3 Koschei is The Master's CIA Codename Regards mark687 |
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Post by xlozdob on Nov 20, 2020 22:45:06 GMT
I do kinda remember the mention in Rani Elite, now you bring it up. But I certainly do not remember the other one. It was a really long time ago, I don't think I even knew the name Koschei then. I think it's about time to revisit that era.
And it's too bad the reference in Neverland didn't make it... I haven't listened past Scherzo yet, maybe I should take advantage of the current MR sale.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Nov 21, 2020 0:14:38 GMT
I still think Koschei is meant to be an alias in The Dark Path, not the Master's "real name" though it may be too late to back out on that now.
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Post by CookieMaster on Nov 21, 2020 6:54:01 GMT
Also Accordind to Narvin in Dark 3 Koschei is The Master's CIA Codename Regards mark687 You know, I swore It was "Kappa Chi" in that story, but I'm happy to have misheard! |
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Post by fitzoliverj on Nov 21, 2020 13:44:10 GMT
I still think Koschei is meant to be an alias in The Dark Path, not the Master's "real name" though it may be too late to back out on that now. Yes, I've seen this stated before but I've never really understood why. (Also, "The Dark Path" is also supposed to reveal that Eric Roberts's Master isn't really the Master at all).
A happy medium would be to say that 'Koschei' is the Master's equivalent of the Doctor as Theta Sigma. Not his real name, but genuinely Gallifreyan.
That, or it's short for Koschei-ee-eye-oh'kdown-you-and-why.
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Post by grinch on Nov 21, 2020 13:55:18 GMT
I still think Koschei is meant to be an alias in The Dark Path, not the Master's "real name" though it may be too late to back out on that now. Yes, I've seen this stated before but I've never really understood why. (Also, "The Dark Path" is also supposed to reveal that Eric Roberts's Master isn't really the Master at all).
A happy medium would be to say that 'Koschei' is the Master's equivalent of the Doctor as Theta Sigma. Not his real name, but genuinely Gallifreyan.
That, or it's short for Koschei-ee-eye-oh'kdown-you-and-why.
I’ve always preferred that explanation to be honest. Just a nickname. Also, am I the only one who’s never been a fan of the idea of the Deca? The suggestion that almost all of the renegade Time Lords were friends with one another is just too convenient for me. You’d have thought the Time Lords would have noticed after a while that all their most dangerous renegades came from supposedly one group. |
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Post by theillusiveman on Nov 21, 2020 14:01:59 GMT
Wasn't The Dark Path kinda made redundant by having The First Master meeting The Second Doctor in The Home Guard and thus kinda making The Dark Path kinda redundant especially given Drefyus already uses the master title when he encounters The First Doctor in The Destination Wars and that The Masters TARDIS is heavily damaged compared to Koschei's TARDIS
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Post by fitzoliverj on Nov 21, 2020 14:06:57 GMT
Wasn't The Dark Path kinda made redundant by having The First Master meeting The Second Doctor in The Home Guard and thus kinda making The Dark Path kinda redundant especially given Drefyus already uses the master title when he encounters The First Doctor in The Destination Wars and that The Masters TARDIS is heavily damaged compared to Koschei's TARDIS
Er....
Um...
Got it! The Dreyfus Master... was the War Chief all along! {Spoiler}
He is, after all, recruiting for the War Lords in "The Home Guard".
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Nov 21, 2020 14:08:20 GMT
wot?
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Post by Whovitt on Nov 21, 2020 22:23:52 GMT
Wasn't The Dark Path kinda made redundant by having The First Master meeting The Second Doctor in The Home Guard and thus kinda making The Dark Path kinda redundant especially given Drefyus already uses the master title when he encounters The First Doctor in The Destination Wars and that The Masters TARDIS is heavily damaged compared to Koschei's TARDIS John Dorney has argued many a time that the intent was never to make Dreyfus the first Master and that he was erroneously called that in the promotional pieces for The First Doctor Adventures: Volume 1; he was only meant to be the earliest incarnation of the Master that we've met so far, not the earliest itself. So, if he isn't the first Master then that probably solves that problem. Wasn't The Dark Path kinda made redundant by having The First Master meeting The Second Doctor in The Home Guard and thus kinda making The Dark Path kinda redundant especially given Drefyus already uses the master title when he encounters The First Doctor in The Destination Wars and that The Masters TARDIS is heavily damaged compared to Koschei's TARDIS
Er....
Um...
Got it! The Dreyfus Master... was the War Chief all along! {Spoiler}
He is, after all, recruiting for the War Lords in "The Home Guard".
Is that what was going on in The Home Guard?! By the end I didn't have the faintest clue what was going on. I might have to go back and revisit that one soon... |
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