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Post by randomjc on Dec 22, 2015 14:43:57 GMT
Tony Peterson. That's all I ask for. He'd be what I'd throw in the mix too. But I don't know Vengeance in Collinwood, how long has he been away in that? No idea. Unsure of how canon that is in my head, having never heard it.
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Post by kastoniago on Dec 22, 2015 23:49:59 GMT
Brilliant to hear we're getting another full-cast series in the style of Bloodlust, as well as the talents of Rob Morris and Aaron Lamont on board as writers. With this, and the announcement of the 50th anniversary special, I'm becoming more convinced of my theory that Big Finish will be phasing out the Dramatic Readings in favour of the more popular full-cast option. (See: notthebigfinishforum.freeforums.net/thread/554/dark-shadows-2016)
What a clever way to get the ensemble cast of characters together for the mystery of Bloodline. A great big Collinsport wedding! Not having heard Tainted Love, I wasn't aware of how the production team had progressed the relationship between David and Amy. I particularly didn't anticipate how far their relationship would progress, and how Amy would get over her husband's death. But as I was saying, a wedding is a good way to get a whole host of cast members, old and new, gathered together for a series of murder and intrigue. It looks like we'll be having Quentin's wife, Leila, coming to Collinsport. It's more than likely that the Longworth-Jennings will be playing a part in the proceeding. Collinsport needs a new reverend to conduct the service, and inevitably more characters introduced to repopulate the fishing town after the devastating events of Bloodlust. I'm curious how they'll explain the absence of Roger and Elizabeth from the marriage proceedings (Also, am I the only one who wants to hear a spin-off of Roger and Elizabeth living it up in Paris?) Also, I wonder if they'll bring Maggie or Angelique back for this series?
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Post by omega on Dec 23, 2015 0:21:20 GMT
Brilliant to hear we're getting another full-cast series in the style of Bloodlust, as well as the talents of Rob Morris and Aaron Lamont on board as writers. With this, and the announcement of the 50th anniversary special, I'm becoming more convinced of my theory that Big Finish will be phasing out the Dramatic Readings in favour of the more popular full-cast option. (See: notthebigfinishforum.freeforums.net/thread/554/dark-shadows-2016)
Also, I wonder if they'll bring Maggie or Angelique back for this series?
I hope they don't get rid of the Dramatic Readings. They offer a slice of two or three characters as opposed to a whole loaf with many characters and storylines. This was a strength of the 2013 mini-season. As for Maggie, it all depends on whether her lack of knowledge about the supernatural will be maintained. It'd be a waste of a fresh start if she left Collinsport behind and pursued a happy, normal life with the man she loved if she was dragged back into the claws of Collinsport and Collinwood's supernatural snares. Didn't the original series do Maggie investigating something mysterious, discover the supernatural and lose her memory of it at least twice?
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Post by Trace on Dec 23, 2015 4:38:03 GMT
Oh absolutely, they would!!! Are you feeling like you want to share them? ?
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Post by Trace on Dec 23, 2015 4:48:41 GMT
Stephanie and Alec are brilliant, but the age gap between the series and the audios aids that. And I like how any other recasts have been worked in plot-wise. I wouldn't have touched Barnabas with a barge pole without Jonathan Frid, but through the plot-device, I can buy into it. I LOVE Roger Collins. He's my favourite character. That makes me LESS keen to hear him in the audios since Louis Edmonds isn't here to play him. I'd need convincing. Hard. I've still never forgiven the TV show for the second Burke. *shivers* Well, it's no secret how I feel about recasts. For me, it's all about keeping the character front and center, rather than actor preference. I too MUCH prefer Mitchell Ryan's Burke over Anthony George's, but if Mitch were not available, and Anthony was both willing and alive (!), I would take him just to have more Burke! Same with Vicki. Alexandra will always be THE Vicki Winters for me....but if she can't or won't do it, I could accept Betsy Durkin, Carolyn Groves, or a completely new voice, just so Vicki's story could continue. At any rate, the producers have stated their stance on recasts (at least up to this point) and I respect it. Frankly, there has never been a misstep with any decisions they've made, so I wholeheartedly acquiesce to their vision and experience. DS lives on, and in the BEST incarnation since the original series. Who can argue that success? These guys are brilliant.
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Post by bobod on Dec 23, 2015 8:20:58 GMT
Oh absolutely, they would!!! Are you feeling like you want to share them? ? The CD booklet photos? Sure, if people'd like them. Might get a bit of interest going.
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Post by barnabaslives on Dec 23, 2015 16:25:49 GMT
This is all so very intriguing... Seems like it would hardly be like Roger and Elizabeth to not be there for David's wedding so I really wonder how that will play out.
I still have such mixed feelings about recasts. I really want to agree with Tracy that the characters are more important than the actor, but some recastings I've taken to and some I still haven't. Maybe it's just what I get for watching some of the OS episodes a half-dozen times but the main DS characters really do strike me as very iconic. I don't think it's limited to the OS either, it's hard for me to imagine anyone else now as Amy or David than Stephanie and Alec.
I really do wonder what's supposed to be "different" about Julia especially. More and more I wonder how Jacqueline Pearce is at American accents? I think she might well have the voice for it and she looks rather early Julia on the cover of Hexagora and maybe not too unlike revival series Julia in the promo pic for her interview CD, either. I just can't quite figure out why such a recasting might call for a plot device? Well, at least not one that befits a supernatural series anyway...
Barnabas: Wait... Before I get Julia, there's something you should know... Quentin: What is it? Barnabas: Well, she's been changed. She's... different... Quentin: How is she different? Come on, man - spit it out! Barnabas: Alright... Julia's... Well, she's... British. Quentin: Dear God!! Is there no end to the curses the Collins family must bear? Three and a half werewoofs, a vampire, and now Julia's British! Barnabas: Indeed, I'm certain Angelique must have a hand in it. Quentin: Is there maybe some way Stokes could change her back? Barnabas*: It may already be... too late, Quentin... Julia's already become quite insistent on driving on the wrong side of the road and putting an "er" on the end of words instead of the "a" that's actually there. Quentin*: All those letters on the ends of words that the French refuse to pronounce have to end up somewhere, but that's really beside the point... May I take a wild guess, Julia is convinced it's everyone else who's got things wrong? Barnabas: Why, yes! You've seen this before?!? Quentin: (sigh) Well... yes...As you know, I spent a great deal of time abroad before I finally returned to my senses... Barnabas: Is there no hope for her then? Quentin: None whatsoever, I'm afraid... (*These lines loosely based on dialog from the Marion Ross novel, Barnabas, Quentin and the Phantom Dipthong).
Ouch! Somehow, I can't really picture this actually happening at Big Finish, and with good reason :-)
Ah well, at least I can wholeheartedly agree with Tracy that these matters are safely in the best of hands with Joe and Davy. Three cheers for the both of them and the wonderful things they've done with the range!
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Post by Rob Morris on Dec 23, 2015 21:17:10 GMT
What a shame "Barnabas, Quentin and the Phantom Dipthong" never got released. It was possibly Marilyn's finest work.
Certainly it featured some fine sub-clauses in the prose. Paperback Library were mad not to continue the range. It could have kept Dark Shadows going like the New Adventures did for Doctor Who. (If shorter.)
You're very brave to quote from the manuscript, though. I hear it's highly sought after.
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Post by gljohnson17 on Dec 24, 2015 20:23:20 GMT
It's interesting to read many of the comments here. So far BF has been leading up to Return to Collinwood.. and in that we know what happens to Joe Roger Maggie and David.
I doubt BF can follow it completely since so many things have happened to make some of that story.... hmmm blase' perhaps....
It should be an interesting ride... but please don't make David Burke's son... Altho The Ink plays well into RtC
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Post by Trace on Dec 25, 2015 4:16:59 GMT
but please don't make David Burke's son... I agree! David MUST stay a Collins! He looks too much like his ancestors Daniel, Tad, and Jamison (although I recall 1840 Quentin questioning Samantha about Tad's paternity also.). But, for all intents and purposes, they were all Collinses.
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Post by omega on Dec 28, 2015 8:16:38 GMT
I'd like to hear more from John Karlen as Willie Loomis. It feels like the audios have been neglecting him a lot in the past few years (it could simply be down to his availability, or lack of), with his last big meaningful role being in Kingdom of the Dead in 2010, and John Karlen's only been in two Dramatic Readings (correct me if I'm wrong), Echoes of Insanity and The Wicked and the Dead. Sure he turned up in Bloodlust, but that was after everything had been wrapped up. He could be Jessica Griffin's date to the wedding, maybe even proposing to her. It'd be amusing for Ed to discover that the town lunatic will be his father!
Please don't take this the wrong way, but I'd like not to hear as much from Maggie. Yes, she's probably one of the few characters to have been around for all the present day Collinsport-set stories, but there have been a number of the Dramatic Readings dedicated to her and her traumas, and she's had a key role in all of the full cast stuff to date (was she attracting this much attention in the classic series?). Angelique even lampshades in Bloodlust how it's all about Maggie (granted, Angelique is again annoyed at Barnabas's intense interest in Maggie). Now she's put Collinsport behind her and earned her happy ending. I feel Maggie has well and truly come out of the shadow of Collinsport and into the light. Let other characters, like Willie Loomis, be put through the wringer in future stories.
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Post by barnabaslives on Dec 28, 2015 19:25:06 GMT
I probably agree that Maggie has suffered (more than) enough, but I really hate to after Kathryn Leigh Scott's absolutely amazing performance in ...And Red All Over.
I don't think I have any recent info but I hope that health problems don't interfere with the possibility of John Karlen participating in Dark Shadows as it sounded like they might have in recent years.
And please, no recasting Willie Loomis. John Karlen is the one and only. I will probably never forgive Dan Curtis for reducing Karlen's phenomenal portrayal to the mere comedic relief in the 1992 revival.
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Post by gljohnson17 on Dec 28, 2015 23:46:53 GMT
He'd be what I'd throw in the mix too. But I don't know Vengeance in Collinwood, how long has he been away in that? No idea. Unsure of how canon that is in my head, having never heard it. According to a synopsis online it mentions about 30 years. So set in 2005 would put him leaving in the mid seventies.. Stranger though is Cassandra living at Rose Cottage.... and it sounded like it didn't pick up David's wife arriving at the end of RtC.
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Post by Trace on Dec 29, 2015 2:32:44 GMT
I don't say this with any first-hand knowledge, but I would be very surprised if John Karlen does another audio (other than maybe a cameo using previously recorded dialogue). That being said, I DO want to hear more from Willie, so however that can happen, I'm ok with. As for Maggie, I definitely have to cast my vote for her to be around for a long time to come. As I've said before, to me, Maggie and Carolyn ARE Dark Shadows' main heroines. I do like them to have happy endings, but never for too long!
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Post by Zagreus on Dec 30, 2015 15:46:52 GMT
Just a side note, and not exactly a Bloodlines prediction, but I predict that the 50th is going to include a recording of Vengeance at Collinwood. The descriptor is vague and would certainly fit that story.
Actually, I just want new recordings of Return and Vengeance, along with some continuation of the 2003+ storyline. I'm sure they could adjust the pacing and add in scenes for various of the new characters we've been introduced to and edit them in to individual episodes for a run of thirteen episodes, including all the new stuff.
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Post by barnabasbytes on Jan 1, 2016 16:36:45 GMT
It would be wonderful if Karlen was well enough to do a part of any size. As for the more-used characters, Maggie has always been rock solid, played by a great and reliable actress. If her character is now happy for a while, I'd love to have her at least do small bit parts in every audio. Her supporting role in Beneath the Veil was noteworthy. Yes, I'd love to hear an audio of Vengeance at Collinwood (c. 2004). My dream would be for Big Finish to produce an unabridged full cast drama of Dreams of the Dark (by Rainey & Massie), with Alexandra Moltke Isles reading the narration.
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Post by bobod on Jan 4, 2016 10:23:02 GMT
Maggie has always been rock solid, played by a great and reliable actress. If her characters is now happy for a while, I'd love to have her at least do small bit parts in every audio. Her supporting role in Beneath the Veil was noteworthy. My first experience of Maggie was Beneath the Veil. I listened to that days before starting to watch the TV show (*). I thought her scenes showed what an amazing actress she clearly was. Her scenes with two guest characters but who happened to be the leads in this audio, and she knew exactly how to pitch them - not play it as the lead / original star but play the scenes with knowledge of her character's place in them (which sounds an obvious thing to do, but that's an unsual position for a star to be in *and* play the scenes in another continent to the other chracters). (*) Actually I think it was enjoying Beneath the Veil so much that led me to start up TV Episode One.
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Post by silverednickle on Jan 8, 2016 19:41:46 GMT
I would love to see something about David's maternity. Thanks to Laura's inbreeding with the family, he's more than half a phoenix. I mean, what happens to phoenix children who don't go in the fire? Would this be something that Hallie might use to break up the wedding?
With David and Amy potentially getting married and the events of Return to Collinwood. There could be all sorts of things to happen in the 20ish years of storytelling in between.
I hope Angelique and Maggie come back. While I like how both characters' stories ended and I don't want to rob either of that, both characters and actresses are too fantastic not to bring back. Jerry Lacey too. Also Matthew Waterhouse. Maybe he could be like his wife's family and show up as his own brother with a different problem.
Ok, my demands aside, I want Joe, Davey, and Co to do what they do best and come up with something amazing that advances theories we fans have and ones that completely through us all for a ringer.
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Post by omega on Jan 11, 2016 1:15:58 GMT
I wouldn't say he's underused in Bloodlust, but a character I'd like to hear more of is Cody, learn what he does when Jackie and Harry aren't around. Does he try to help Rhonda investigate a crime or something? I imagine his relationship with his father is similar to that of Stiles and his father in Teen Wolf, and would be wonderful to hear.
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Post by bobod on Jan 11, 2016 9:15:17 GMT
I wouldn't say he's underused in Bloodlust, but a character I'd like to hear more of is Cody, learn what he does when Jackie and Harry aren't around. Does he try to help Rhonda investigate a crime or something? I imagine his relationship with his father is similar to that of Stiles and his father in Teen Wolf, and would be wonderful to hear. I'm sure La Hamonde would leap at the idea of scenes between Cody and Dr Hill. Where's Wally? There he is. And there he is there too.
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