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Post by eric009 on Apr 5, 2021 2:36:03 GMT
Doctor Who: The Spectre of Lanyon Moor 10/10 for me the brig and sixy:)
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Post by eric009 on Apr 7, 2021 2:44:12 GMT
DW MR 010 Winter for the Adept 7/10 DW MR 011 The Apocalypse Element 8/10 off now 12 days so should get thought a lot with (and more than likely get side track by a re-listen to The Paternoster Gang Heritage 10/10
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Post by elkawho on Apr 7, 2021 2:58:55 GMT
So I just finished The Fearmonger.
Some thoughts on the first five releases Land of the Dead was not as bad as I remembered it. I still love Whispers of Terror. Yes, it's the old bristly Six, but it's a very good story and it's the first one to use the medium well. And it's a good audio intro to Sixie from before he meets Evelyn. And the Fearmonger is just fantastic.
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Post by ljwilson on Apr 7, 2021 7:57:34 GMT
So I just finished The Fearmonger. Some thoughts on the first five releases Land of the Dead was not as bad as I remembered it. I still love Whispers of Terror. Yes, it's the old bristly Six, but it's a very good story and it's the first one to use the medium well. And it's a good audio intro to Sixie from before he meets Evelyn. And the Fearmonger is just fantastic. I thought The Land of the Dead was awful when I first heard it, but these days I really enjoy it without thinking it is a great story. It is slow, rambling, has one of the slowest monsters in DW....but I like it! 'We are so close now, so close.....ravens father!'
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Apr 7, 2021 10:16:22 GMT
5th release The Fearmonger (February 2000). Very interesting story but overlong, still finding their feet in how to best describe events via audio (use of the radio DJ to explain things). Sophie Aldred was very good, the strongest companion performance so far but of course I had to endure Sylvester McCoy.
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Post by elkawho on Apr 7, 2021 11:17:25 GMT
I'm in the middle of The Marian Conspiracy. The gamechanger of the early days. I've heard it many times, but not for a quite a while. I am now only 3 years younger than Evelyn is in this one, and all they keep talking about is how old she is. She's not that old!!!! (LOL)
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Post by number13 on Apr 7, 2021 13:24:53 GMT
I'm in the middle of The Marian Conspiracy. The gamechanger of the early days. I've heard it many times, but not for a quite a while. I am now only 3 years younger than Evelyn is in this one, and all they keep talking about is how old she is. She's not that old!!!! (LOL) Entirely agree. Young Evelyn isn't old at all. Not one little bit.
Evelyn is wonderful, a total delight in every one of her stories, but from the writing I would sometimes have guessed Evelyn to be almost a generation older than she really is. Perhaps she was just unlucky with her health and achy knees and liked to dress in a semi-historical style (cardigans, really?) - or perhaps they overcompensated just a little bit in stressing how ancientantiqueold Evelyn was, just to make it clear this new Companion wasn't in her teens or early twenties! The first for a very long time (except Romana and she's a Time Lady so that's different!)
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Post by eric009 on Apr 7, 2021 23:49:33 GMT
The Paternoster Gang Heritage again 1 and DW MR 012 The Fires of Vulcan 7/10 DW MR 013 The Shadow of the Scourge 9/10 DW MR 014 The Holy Terror 8/10 and half way DW MR 015 The Mutant Phase
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 1:27:27 GMT
I'm in the middle of The Marian Conspiracy. The gamechanger of the early days. I've heard it many times, but not for a quite a while. I am now only 3 years younger than Evelyn is in this one, and all they keep talking about is how old she is. She's not that old!!!! (LOL) Entirely agree. Young Evelyn isn't old at all. Not one little bit.
Evelyn is wonderful, a total delight in every one of her stories, but from the writing I would sometimes have guessed Evelyn to be almost a generation older than she really is. Perhaps she was just unlucky with her health and achy knees and liked to dress in a semi-historical style (cardigans, really?) - or perhaps they overcompensated just a little bit in stressing how ancientantiqueold Evelyn was, just to make it clear this new Companion wasn't in her teens or early twenties! The first for a very long time (except Romana and she's a Time Lady so that's different!)
(I fell asleep at 1:00am at the desk on the first attempt, so let's try this again... )See, I interpreted a fair bit of Evelyn's demeanour to be a part of her academic background. A bit of that Tudor influence from her historical researches rubbing off on her. She had a husband who she divorced because it interfered with her work, so she was very committed. Funny thing is, she was never a companion that felt "old" to me. Not in the pejorative sense that people sometimes use where "old" means "incapable" ( piffle). Having grown up with the First Doctor, old is perhaps a word used for the body, never for the mind. She was the first companion that I encountered which very proudly stated you didn't need to be a young twenty-to-thirty something to adopt that role and be adored by audiences (and adored she was). I think a lot of dear Evelyn's health problems came from the fact that she committed herself so thoroughly to her life. One of those nasty little cosmic jokes where people with the biggest hearts get heart problems. I found her to be a bit like the Doctor that way. However she looks, whatever she's perceived as, Evelyn has a young spirit. And the reason I know that is every time I go back to these stories, I am the same age I first encountered them. That happens with no other companion. That's Maggie Stables and that's Evelyn.
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Post by constonks on Apr 8, 2021 2:18:57 GMT
I'm in the middle of The Marian Conspiracy. The gamechanger of the early days. I've heard it many times, but not for a quite a while. I am now only 3 years younger than Evelyn is in this one, and all they keep talking about is how old she is. She's not that old!!!! (LOL) Entirely agree. Young Evelyn isn't old at all. Not one little bit. Evelyn is wonderful, a total delight in every one of her stories, but from the writing I would sometimes have guessed Evelyn to be almost a generation older than she really is. Perhaps she was just unlucky with her health and achy knees and liked to dress in a semi-historical style (cardigans, really?) - or perhaps they overcompensated just a little bit in stressing how ancientantiqueold Evelyn was, just to make it clear this new Companion wasn't in her teens or early twenties! The first for a very long time (except Romana and she's a Time Lady so that's different!)
Wait, how old IS Evelyn? I'd have guessed late fifties, early sixties but the TARDIS wiki doesn't say - we don't even have a date for when Maggie Stables was born. (EDIT: Aha! Wikipedia, unsourced, says fifty-five.) In any case, I think it's academia - I'll say I've definitely known some professors who dressed and acted older than they were! And as for the knees, I'm not exactly retirement age but I don't think I'd be up for running after the Doctor all the time either!!
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Post by Kestrel on Apr 8, 2021 2:37:22 GMT
I'm pretty sure Evelyn was supposed to be significantly younger than !aggie Stabes, in the same way the Doctor is meant to look much younger than Colin Baker (at time of recording).
Definitely gonna have to relisten to "The Marian Conspiracy" again soon. It was my first story with Colin Baker, and one of my earliest Big Finish stories period, and I loved the hell out of it. But now that I've heard so many more stories, I wonder if my opinion will change.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 2:43:02 GMT
Entirely agree. Young Evelyn isn't old at all. Not one little bit. Evelyn is wonderful, a total delight in every one of her stories, but from the writing I would sometimes have guessed Evelyn to be almost a generation older than she really is. Perhaps she was just unlucky with her health and achy knees and liked to dress in a semi-historical style (cardigans, really?) - or perhaps they overcompensated just a little bit in stressing how ancientantiqueold Evelyn was, just to make it clear this new Companion wasn't in her teens or early twenties! The first for a very long time (except Romana and she's a Time Lady so that's different!)
Wait, how old IS Evelyn? I'd have guessed late fifties, early sixties but the TARDIS wiki doesn't say - we don't even have a date for when Maggie Stables was born. (EDIT: Aha! Wikipedia, unsourced, says fifty-five.) In any case, I think it's academia - I'll say I've definitely known some professors who dressed and acted older than they were! And as for the knees, I'm not exactly retirement age but I don't think I'd be up for running after the Doctor all the time either!! *clears throat and raises hand awkwardly* Tutor here and I can definitely say, judging by reactions over the years, I fall into this bracket. It's not on purpose, per se... just something you pick up by osmosis (huh, now that I think about it, maybe that's the magic of books? The trees speak their lives of centuries and the readers listen...), but... Yeah. Yeah, I'll cop to it. I speak from a place of experience, I'm well and truly in this picture.
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Post by eric009 on Apr 8, 2021 7:44:56 GMT
DW MR 015 The Mutant Phase 8/10 DW MR 016. Doctor Who: Storm Warning 7/10 DW MR 017. Doctor Who: Sword of Orion 10/10 and just started 018. Doctor Who: The Stones of Venice don't remember too much about this one is a good or bad sign
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Post by mark687 on Apr 8, 2021 8:55:25 GMT
I'm pretty sure Evelyn was supposed to be significantly younger than !aggie Stabes, in the same way the Doctor is meant to look much younger than Colin Baker (at time of recording). Definitely gonna have to relisten to "The Marian Conspiracy" again soon. It was my first story with Colin Baker, and one of my earliest Big Finish stories period, and I loved the hell out of it. But now that I've heard so many more stories, I wonder if my opinion will change. Sorry that's incorrect Evelyn was designed as an older companion and I think Maggie was 1st choice Casting Regards mark687
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Post by number13 on Apr 8, 2021 13:23:32 GMT
I'm pretty sure Evelyn was supposed to be significantly younger than !aggie Stabes, in the same way the Doctor is meant to look much younger than Colin Baker (at time of recording). Definitely gonna have to relisten to "The Marian Conspiracy" again soon. It was my first story with Colin Baker, and one of my earliest Big Finish stories period, and I loved the hell out of it. But now that I've heard so many more stories, I wonder if my opinion will change. Sorry incorrect Evelyn was designed as an older companion and I think Maggie was 1st choice Casting Regards mark687 Yes, I think Evelyn was created with Maggie Stables in mind. Wasn't she appearing in a stage play with Nick Briggs? I'm sure I've heard this mentioned somewhere but can't remember where or any details. If only they'd had interview tracks on those early stories to give us the background information! (And to say how great the lunches always were, of course. )
Anyway, I can't imagine anyone except Maggie Stables playing Evelyn. Just wonderful.
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Post by number13 on Apr 8, 2021 13:29:38 GMT
Wait, how old IS Evelyn? I'd have guessed late fifties, early sixties but the TARDIS wiki doesn't say - we don't even have a date for when Maggie Stables was born. (EDIT: Aha! Wikipedia, unsourced, says fifty-five.) In any case, I think it's academia - I'll say I've definitely known some professors who dressed and acted older than they were! And as for the knees, I'm not exactly retirement age but I don't think I'd be up for running after the Doctor all the time either!! *clears throat and raises hand awkwardly* Tutor here and I can definitely say, judging by reactions over the years, I fall into this bracket. It's not on purpose, per se... just something you pick up by osmosis (huh, now that I think about it, maybe that's the magic of books? The trees speak their lives of centuries and the readers listen...), but... Yeah. Yeah, I'll cop to it. I speak from a place of experience, I'm well and truly in this picture. There's a word for it - donnish. Although that's an Oxbridge pre-war cap-and-gown era word it seems the phenomenon might still occur, even if one isn't actually a don and doesn't work among dreaming spires. It's a state of academic mind!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 13:31:47 GMT
Sorry incorrect Evelyn was designed as an older companion and I think Maggie was 1st choice Casting Regards mark687 Yes, I think Evelyn was created with Maggie Stables in mind. Wasn't she appearing in a stage play with Nick Briggs? I'm sure I've heard this mentioned somewhere but can't remember where or any details. If only they'd had interview tracks on those early stories to give us the background information! (And to say how great the lunches always were, of course. )
Anyway, I can't imagine anyone except Maggie Stables playing Evelyn. Just wonderful.
You want to find a copy of this absolutely essential book. No happy-chummy lunch talk, this goes waaaaay behind the scenes with writers bitching about Gary Russell and him burying a few. It's amazing this was released when these stories were all very recent. It's not all gossip-y - it's also a fascinating resource with loads of great info. You'l get more out of this than any of the BTS features on CDs. No wonder we never saw a Vol. 2 - feelings were hurt with more than one person not too happy about the book being so salacious. Goes up to Zagreus, with some Benny, the Special Releases and Dalek Empire thrown in.
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Post by number13 on Apr 8, 2021 13:39:39 GMT
Yes, I think Evelyn was created with Maggie Stables in mind. Wasn't she appearing in a stage play with Nick Briggs? I'm sure I've heard this mentioned somewhere but can't remember where or any details. If only they'd had interview tracks on those early stories to give us the background information! (And to say how great the lunches always were, of course. )
Anyway, I can't imagine anyone except Maggie Stables playing Evelyn. Just wonderful.
You want to find a copy of this absolutely essential book. No happy-chummy lunch talk, this goes waaaaay behind the scenes with writers bitching about Gary Russell and him burying a few. It's amazing this was released when these stories were all very recent. It's not all gossip-y - it's also a fascinating resource with loads of great info. You'l get more out of this than any of the BTS features on CDs. No wonder we never saw a Vol. 2 - feelings were hurt with more than one person not too happy about the book being so salacious. Goes up to Zagreus, with some Benny, the Special Releases and Dalek Empire thrown in. I will investigate... thanks! ( Salacious? Corks! )
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 14:12:39 GMT
Yes, I think Evelyn was created with Maggie Stables in mind. Wasn't she appearing in a stage play with Nick Briggs? I'm sure I've heard this mentioned somewhere but can't remember where or any details. If only they'd had interview tracks on those early stories to give us the background information! (And to say how great the lunches always were, of course. )
Anyway, I can't imagine anyone except Maggie Stables playing Evelyn. Just wonderful.
You want to find a copy of this absolutely essential book. No happy-chummy lunch talk, this goes waaaaay behind the scenes with writers bitching about Gary Russell and him burying a few. It's amazing this was released when these stories were all very recent. It's not all gossip-y - it's also a fascinating resource with loads of great info. You'l get more out of this than any of the BTS features on CDs. No wonder we never saw a Vol. 2 - feelings were hurt with more than one person not too happy about the book being so salacious. Goes up to Zagreus, with some Benny, the Special Releases and Dalek Empire thrown in. Ironically i bought this today, for quite an alright price as well (usually goes in the 50s and 60s range, managed to nab this for £20 odd) excited to see what it goes into it as i have heard interesting things....
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Post by muckypup on Apr 8, 2021 14:21:48 GMT
I'm in the middle of The Marian Conspiracy. The gamechanger of the early days. I've heard it many times, but not for a quite a while. I am now only 3 years younger than Evelyn is in this one, and all they keep talking about is how old she is. She's not that old!!!! (LOL) how old is Evelyn supposed to be.......I always saw her in her late 60's early 70's sure you no where near that.
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