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Post by grinch on Apr 10, 2021 20:34:02 GMT
Not brilliant but it’s a different approach to the idea of a Multi Doctor story which I can appreciate.
What did you all think?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2021 20:39:46 GMT
Not brilliant but it’s a different approach to the idea of a Multi Doctor story which I can appreciate. What did you all think? I listened to it on Youtube (it seemed legit, honest!) a few years back and rather enjoyed it, especially the interaction between the Doctors at the end. It kind of put McGann in the Classic Series rather than that island between the two incarnations that many would associate him with. Been a few years, so I really would like BF to make it properly available to us non-subscribers.
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Post by cwm on Apr 10, 2021 21:54:15 GMT
The story was sold on the promise that a subscription would be the only way to get it. It'd be against the law to make it available any other way.
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Post by Digi on Apr 10, 2021 22:07:16 GMT
Lol no, it wouldn't.
And I love it. Fantastic story.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Apr 10, 2021 22:12:14 GMT
Same- love it, 1 of my very first listens when I discovered BF through a mate.. I have ordered 4 12month main/monthly range subs this year alone so far to finish my physical cd collection- I got this twice and "Five Companions" twice.
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Post by cwm on Apr 10, 2021 22:32:49 GMT
Lol no, it wouldn't. And I love it. Fantastic story. Yes it would. Subscriptions were sold on the understanding they would be the only way to get that story.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2021 22:59:07 GMT
It wouldn’t be illegal. Would it annoy people? Yes. But against the law, not in the slightest.
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Post by project37 on Apr 11, 2021 16:05:49 GMT
I really enjoyed it, especially the playful "interaction" between the Fifth Doctor (then the oldest of the represented BF Doctors) and the Eighth in the first episode. The story was originally called "Reverse Engineering" and I thought the premise was a really effective variation on bringing the different Doctors into the narrative. The final scene was definitely a fan-service moment (and I believe written separately by Nick Briggs?) but didn't overstay its welcome.
That said, I personally don't find multi-Doctor stories on audio to hold the special appeal that they used to. Maybe too much of a good thing? I bought and enjoyed the most recent ones (Out of Time 1 and Legacy of Time) but don't feel compelled to revisit them in the way that I do with the television shows like the Three and Five Doctors, or Day of the Doctor. Not having heard "End of the Beginning" (and not feeling in a rush to do so), I personally found "The Four Doctors" to easily be the most interesting and re-listenable out of the "give them each an adventure before bringing them together at the end" BF multi-Doctor stories.
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Post by Ricky on Apr 12, 2021 9:56:52 GMT
Weren't releases like An Earthly Child and Return of the Krotons sold as 'subscriber exclusives' back in the day as well?
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Post by cwm on Apr 12, 2021 10:17:51 GMT
Weren't releases like An Earthly Child and Return of the Krotons sold as 'subscriber exclusives' back in the day as well? They were not sold with the promise that they would only be available as subscriber exclusives - indeed, it was clear that they would eventually go on general release. The Four Doctors and The Five Companions have always been sold with the promise that a subscription is the only way ever to get them from BF. It would be a breach of the Trade Descriptions Act to put them on general release.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 11:11:51 GMT
I assure you, there are zero legal reasons why they couldn't sell it would not breach any law lol.
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Post by Whovitt on Apr 12, 2021 11:19:13 GMT
Weren't releases like An Earthly Child and Return of the Krotons sold as 'subscriber exclusives' back in the day as well? They were not sold with the promise that they would only be available as subscriber exclusives - indeed, it was clear that they would eventually go on general release. The Four Doctors and The Five Companions have always been sold with the promise that a subscription is the only way ever to get them from BF. It would be a breach of the Trade Descriptions Act to put them on general release. If they could promise that pre-orders for the Echoes of Extinction vinyl wouldn't be available until April but launched sales in March regardless, I'm sure they can "backtrack" on a piece of marketing that's a decade old.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 11:40:55 GMT
They were not sold with the promise that they would only be available as subscriber exclusives - indeed, it was clear that they would eventually go on general release. The Four Doctors and The Five Companions have always been sold with the promise that a subscription is the only way ever to get them from BF. It would be a breach of the Trade Descriptions Act to put them on general release. If they could promise that pre-orders for the Echoes of Extinction vinyl wouldn't be available until April but launched sales in March regardless, I'm sure they can "backtrack" on a piece of marketing that's a decade old. I mean also just read the trade descriptions act, it has nothing to do with saying something's exclusive like this because regardless of anything, it was exclusive when people bought it so Big Finish have already kept to their word anyways. They didn’t say forever and even if they did, it wouldn't be against the law, especially not the one they provided The Law in question here - www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/29
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Post by Whovitt on Apr 12, 2021 11:52:01 GMT
If they could promise that pre-orders for the Echoes of Extinction vinyl wouldn't be available until April but launched sales in March regardless, I'm sure they can "backtrack" on a piece of marketing that's a decade old. I mean also just read the trade descriptions act, it has nothing to do with saying something's exclusive like this because regardless of anything, it was exclusive when people bought it so Big Finish have already kept to their word anyways. They didn’t say forever and even if they did, it wouldn't be against the law, especially not the one they provided The Law in question here - www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/29I mean, I'm speaking from the position of not being in UK or knowing anything about UK trade law (since it doesn't really affect me) I'm sure that thing supports the argument, but it's massive and I'm honestly not interested in the topic enough to sift through it for the relevant paragraph Basically, I was just agreeing with the point that they can change their minds about the Four Doctors/ Five Companions situation (which is a topic that's come up often enough and yet always ends up going around in the same circles).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 12:13:56 GMT
I mean also just read the trade descriptions act, it has nothing to do with saying something's exclusive like this because regardless of anything, it was exclusive when people bought it so Big Finish have already kept to their word anyways. They didn’t say forever and even if they did, it wouldn't be against the law, especially not the one they provided The Law in question here - www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/29I mean, I'm speaking from the position of not being in UK or knowing anything about UK trade law (since it doesn't really affect me) I'm sure that thing supports the argument, but it's massive and I'm honestly not interested in the topic enough to sift through it for the relevant paragraph Basically, I was just agreeing with the point that they can change their minds about the Four Doctors/ Five Companions situation (which is a topic that's come up often enough and yet always ends up going around in the same circles). Oh i know, i was more quoting you as you were support my argument, i was more just (trying) to support what you were saying 😁
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Post by Whovitt on Apr 12, 2021 12:34:55 GMT
I mean, I'm speaking from the position of not being in UK or knowing anything about UK trade law (since it doesn't really affect me) I'm sure that thing supports the argument, but it's massive and I'm honestly not interested in the topic enough to sift through it for the relevant paragraph Basically, I was just agreeing with the point that they can change their minds about the Four Doctors/ Five Companions situation (which is a topic that's come up often enough and yet always ends up going around in the same circles). Oh i know, i was more quoting you as you were support my argument, i was more just (trying) to support what you were saying 😁 Ah, I see My brain somehow decided your message came across argumentatively, but re-reading I see exactly what you meant. I think I'm just a bit overtired and incapable of thinking straight
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 12:52:37 GMT
I think I'm just a bit overtired and incapable of thinking straight that’s what reading the TDA does to you. 😴 Ill drink to that brother 😂😴
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 13:04:17 GMT
I interpreted the commitment as being for the duration of the Main Range only. Or indeed the Companion Chronicles for the other release. As both ranges have been supplanted by ad-hoc box sets, the circumstances and parameters of the original promise would appear to have been voided.
Perhaps a repackaging of both together or refreshed artwork to distinguish from the earlier limited editions, to satisfy collectors of the original?
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Post by cwm on Apr 12, 2021 13:28:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 14:08:13 GMT
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