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Post by cwm on May 26, 2021 15:29:35 GMT
Well at least we have some semblance of what Big Finish have planned for the Classic Doctors. However I am guessing that there will be more box sets announced for at least some of these Doctors. For example I am assuming (there is a lot of that) David Bradley will continue as the 1st Doctor in a separate range, perhaps his range will be classed as New Series. And the same with Paul McGann’s Eighth Doctor in The Time War. Could that be considered NuWho as well? And surely there will have to be another set for each of the Doctor’s 3, 5, 6 & 7 otherwise what the heck was the adding two extra discs to series 11 of the 4DAs all about!? The First Doctor Adventures graphic + its moving to be classified under 'classic series' does indicate it's going to be a range with both David Bradley and Peter Purves' First Doctors.
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Post by thelonecenturion on May 26, 2021 15:33:02 GMT
Well at least we have some semblance of what Big Finish have planned for the Classic Doctors. However I am guessing that there will be more box sets announced for at least some of these Doctors. For example I am assuming (there is a lot of that) David Bradley will continue as the 1st Doctor in a separate range, perhaps his range will be classed as New Series. And the same with Paul McGann’s Eighth Doctor in The Time War. Could that be considered NuWho as well? And surely there will have to be another set for each of the Doctor’s 3, 5, 6 & 7 otherwise what the heck was the adding two extra discs to series 11 of the 4DAs all about!? The First Doctor Adventures graphic + its moving to be classified under 'classic series' does indicate it's going to be a range with both David Bradley and Peter Purves' First Doctors. Not necessarily Purves - I think they might get in a new First Doctor actor.
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Post by Digi on May 26, 2021 15:35:35 GMT
The individual links from the news article are a mix of (release 1 of 2) and bundling two together, possibly missed one or two? I just checked, and in CAD I come up with: 1st - 16.99 (DL) / 34.09 (CD) 2nd - 16.99 (DL) / 34.09 (CD) 3rd - 16.99 x2 = 33.98 (DL) / 34.09 x2 = 68.18 (CD) 4th - 19.99 x2 = 39.98 (DL) / 42.61 x2 = 85.22 (CD) 5th - 16.99 x2 = 33.98 (DL) / 34.09 x2 = 68.18 (CD) 6th - 16.99 x2 = 33.98 (DL) / 34.09 x2 = 68.18 (CD) 7th - 16.99 x2 = 33.98 (DL) / 34.09 x2 = 68.18 (CD) 8th - 16.99 x2 = 33.98 (DL) / 34.09 x2 = 68.18 (CD) TOTAL: 243.86 (DL) / 494.30 (CD) vs BUNDLE: 237.00 (DL) / 467.22 (CD) I'm definitely not missing anything. I'd attached screenshots to prove my point but I can't work out how, so here are the basics for me: (12 box sets x $36.33) + (2 box sets x 45.41) + $76.33 shipping + $11.81 per order charge = $435.96 + $90.82 + $88.14 = $614.92 The 14-release sub comes out as $646.96 ($497.94 for product + $149.02 for shipping) Like I say, I've absolutely no way of explaining it, but it's 100% the cheaper option to buy them individually in the same order here in Aus... I got nothing then lol Circling back to content though....I'm pleased we've finally gotten some news. I just need to know more. Are the First Doctor Adventures continuing with David Bradley & co? For the Second Doctor, did they convince Frazer to do Pat Troughton full time, or is it something totally new? (Aka I need to know if we're talking recasts) These new Eighth Doctor Adventures, is this the direction for Paul's stories post-Stranded? Are we going self-contained? Are they numbering these titles (Vol 1, 2, etc) or giving everything a subtitle? (Please no numbers, or else what was the point of ending the MR?) And, not exactly on topic, but -- if we're going ahead with announcements for 2022, could we perhaps finally get an update on what's going on with Companion Chronicles 14/Second Doctor Vol 3? I understand that the pandemic complicated many things, but surely we should sort out the backlog before pressing on to the future?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 16:10:06 GMT
Not sure if I can afford the entire bundle (on CD), but I'm definitely gonna pre-order 2DA Beyond War Games (and relisten to The Black Hole)!
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Post by cwm on May 26, 2021 16:21:08 GMT
The First Doctor Adventures graphic + its moving to be classified under 'classic series' does indicate it's going to be a range with both David Bradley and Peter Purves' First Doctors. Not necessarily Purves - I think they might get in a new First Doctor actor. If they weren't going to use Purves, why not just have Bradley stories only? Combining Purves and Bradley's Doctors in one range would seem to make more sense than Bradley and A.N. Other, so it represents both the 1960s and 2010s interpretations of the character.
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Post by ollychops on May 26, 2021 16:24:52 GMT
Honestly not too excited about any of these in particular since they're pretty sparse on details but it's good to know what's coming next year. Not too excited about 6B stuff but given that it's BF it'll be good so I'm not going to moan too much because I'll end up eating my words.
Hoping that we're not getting a new First Doctor with BF... I'd be happy with them to stick with Purves and Bradley as the go-tos for the First Doctor.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on May 26, 2021 16:46:34 GMT
Honestly not too excited about any of these in particular since they're pretty sparse on details but it's good to know what's coming next year. Not too excited about 6B stuff but given that it's BF it'll be good so I'm not going to moan too much because I'll end up eating my words. Hoping that we're not getting a new First Doctor with BF... I'd be happy with them to stick with Purves and Bradley as the go-tos for the First Doctor. Yeah I agree about 6B. Not sure what all the fuss is about unless the plots are going to be markedly different.
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Post by aztec on May 26, 2021 17:01:12 GMT
I notice the 8th Doctor boxset is 3 discs per set...we've lost a disc of story compared to the stranded ranges etc Are these two boxsets going to be a follow up to Stranded? or something else like another Lucie Miller set? With just 3 stories per set will there still be a story arc? Anyone else have a feeling the Beyond The War Games will have a recast 2nd Doctor?
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Post by grinch on May 26, 2021 17:02:11 GMT
Still on the fence regarding Series 6B but it’ll be interesting to see what familiar faces pops up in these ranges.
Perhaps a certain shape changer? Hint, hint.
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Post by grinch on May 26, 2021 17:03:13 GMT
I notice the 8th Doctor boxset is 3 discs per set...we've lost a disc of story compared to the stranded ranges etc Are these two boxsets going to be a follow up to Stranded? or something else like another Lucie Miller set? With just 3 stories per set will there still be a story arc? Anyone else have a feeling the Beyond The War Games will have a recast 2nd Doctor? Probably. Although, if Frazer Hines was going to continue portraying the Second Doctor I’d have no issue with that.
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Post by aztec on May 26, 2021 17:09:05 GMT
If I was new to BF, I'd be confused for sure.
None of what BF are doing with the classic Doctors makes any sense to me at all! I'm going to end up buying individual releases and welcoming the concept of "gaps" to my shelves. And possibly buying after release in future - what I lose on postage I gain on not buying things I'm not keen on. Which may not be what BF hoped for from their former subscribers, but the 'miss' rate has been going up recently imo. I wouldn't have bought the recent 1DAs (while I enjoyed 'The Hollow Crown' well enough, I could certainly live without it) or River 8 or a few of last years' MR releases after the comments on here. (And would have been right not to buy, in view of my personal verdicts after listening.)
Agreed its not making the Buying process simpler for the occasional s be interesting to see what the Sales/Offers strategy is going forward. Regards mark687 Speaking as someone with a limited budget for Big Finish who properly got into the audios by dipping in and out of the main range through sales (though the first story I actually listened to was a repeat of Situation Vacant on BBC Radio..odd choice I know!) I'm still not convinced that the move towards boxsets/seperate ranges for every doctor makes things more accesible or less confusing for new listeners (in say 10 years time will the 6th Dr volume 12 etc be less daunting/confusing to place than Monthly range 122 etc) also think it's going to price some listeners out of the market, I definitely can't afford to subscribe to multiple boxset ranges a year and would most likely find it to daunting to even if I was a more regular listener to BF. On the other hand rebooting the doctors with their own ranges/boxset focus is genuinely exciting and interesting from a creative standpoint...my feelings on the format change remain rather mixed but I'm certianly curious for the story details, will this format reboot mean story arcs are rebooted or dropped going forward? or the reverse? I don't post here very often anymore and compared to many here only purchase/follow a limited number of BF ranges so I suppose I'm not really the target audience of this news and have a different viewpoint...I am curious though if those here who subscribed to the main range also plan to subscribe to all the boxsets as well? Hmm certainly alot to think about...
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 17:10:08 GMT
I notice the 8th Doctor boxset is 3 discs per set...we've lost a disc of story compared to the stranded ranges etc Are these two boxsets going to be a follow up to Stranded? or something else like another Lucie Miller set? With just 3 stories per set will there still be a story arc? Anyone else have a feeling the Beyond The War Games will have a recast 2nd Doctor? It would be very Devious of them to do so...
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Post by xlozdob on May 26, 2021 17:52:20 GMT
Well to me this is all the more confusing than the main range ever was........ I have no idea what’s coming up or when and it certainly is more expensive than the main range, but I just had my 50th birthday n got a chunk of money I could get these But should I ? I don't think it's more confusing, it's just a new schedule we're not used to. The releases themselves (the content) is what's supposed to act as jumping on points for newer listeners. And I think if they keep the naming system tidy enough (subtitles (+number if necessary for a longer arc) instead of volumes), then that's going to be easily less confusing than "right, can I listen to this 7th Doctor story with Fenric? Sounds cool. Oh, there's three new companions? I mean, that's easy, how difficult can a companion's story be? Okay, they've been travelling separately with the Doctor. Oh, there's this thing called the Forge that's important for one of these new 7th Doctor companions? But you actually have to listen to some 6th Doctor audios before? And then how many 7th Doctor audios should I listen to? Are they all important?..." I mean, I'm sure back in the day it was easy enough to follow along, but from a newcomer's perspective it does sound daunting. Maybe these boxsets will be as daunting in ten years, but for the current newcomers I'm guessing it'll be much easier and just as exciting as it is to us.
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Post by anothermanicmondas on May 26, 2021 18:26:10 GMT
The individual links from the news article are a mix of (release 1 of 2) and bundling two together, possibly missed one or two? I just checked, and in CAD I come up with: 1st - 16.99 (DL) / 34.09 (CD) 2nd - 16.99 (DL) / 34.09 (CD) 3rd - 16.99 x2 = 33.98 (DL) / 34.09 x2 = 68.18 (CD) 4th - 19.99 x2 = 39.98 (DL) / 42.61 x2 = 85.22 (CD) 5th - 16.99 x2 = 33.98 (DL) / 34.09 x2 = 68.18 (CD) 6th - 16.99 x2 = 33.98 (DL) / 34.09 x2 = 68.18 (CD) 7th - 16.99 x2 = 33.98 (DL) / 34.09 x2 = 68.18 (CD) 8th - 16.99 x2 = 33.98 (DL) / 34.09 x2 = 68.18 (CD) TOTAL: 243.86 (DL) / 494.30 (CD) vs BUNDLE: 237.00 (DL) / 467.22 (CD) I'm definitely not missing anything. I'd attached screenshots to prove my point but I can't work out how, so here are the basics for me: (12 box sets x $36.33) + (2 box sets x 45.41) + $76.33 shipping + $11.81 per order charge = $435.96 + $90.82 + $88.14 = $614.92 The 14-release sub comes out as $646.96 ($497.94 for product + $149.02 for shipping) Like I say, I've absolutely no way of explaining it, but it's 100% the cheaper option to buy them individually in the same order here in Aus... that is odd the key detail to notice that according to your figures - in the bundle the product is cheaper but the shipping is an extra $60 In UK there is no extra charge for shipping so we just get it cheaper
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Post by ljwilson on May 26, 2021 18:32:24 GMT
I'm all for this reboot, but only if it means we start to get regular warehouse clearance sales on old stock and discounts on the now retired Main Range.
Very selfish I know, but I'm happy to live with that. I may well push the boat out and get one or two of these new ones.
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Post by tuigirl on May 26, 2021 18:42:21 GMT
I agree with everyone saying that without more information, it is hard to get excited. Right now, I do not really feel like I want to buy the cat in the bag, it is too expensive for that. I think I will wait until there is more information,
As for post War Games stories... I liked Black Hole, but I am not sure I buy into the whole 6B business. But it depends on what they do with it and what kind of stories they dream up, I guess.
As for any re-casts... in general, I am not against that.
So I will just wait and see....
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Post by project37 on May 26, 2021 18:54:59 GMT
Without knowing any details, the boxset idea sounds pretty accessible to me. I've always found the volume numbers to be a bit off-putting for Doctor Who audio because I don't want to feel like I need to commit to 12-16 discs' worth of story to get the full picture. I like feeling the freedom to jump on with something that sounds self-contained like "Ravagers" or "Respond To All Calls" as opposed to "Doom Coalition 2" or "Stranded 3."
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Post by redsharkJason on May 26, 2021 19:00:50 GMT
The individual links from the news article are a mix of (release 1 of 2) and bundling two together, possibly missed one or two? I just checked, and in CAD I come up with: 1st - 16.99 (DL) / 34.09 (CD) 2nd - 16.99 (DL) / 34.09 (CD) 3rd - 16.99 x2 = 33.98 (DL) / 34.09 x2 = 68.18 (CD) 4th - 19.99 x2 = 39.98 (DL) / 42.61 x2 = 85.22 (CD) 5th - 16.99 x2 = 33.98 (DL) / 34.09 x2 = 68.18 (CD) 6th - 16.99 x2 = 33.98 (DL) / 34.09 x2 = 68.18 (CD) 7th - 16.99 x2 = 33.98 (DL) / 34.09 x2 = 68.18 (CD) 8th - 16.99 x2 = 33.98 (DL) / 34.09 x2 = 68.18 (CD) TOTAL: 243.86 (DL) / 494.30 (CD) vs BUNDLE: 237.00 (DL) / 467.22 (CD) I'm definitely not missing anything. I'd attached screenshots to prove my point but I can't work out how, so here are the basics for me: (12 box sets x $36.33) + (2 box sets x 45.41) + $76.33 shipping + $11.81 per order charge = $435.96 + $90.82 + $88.14 = $614.92 The 14-release sub comes out as $646.96 ($497.94 for product + $149.02 for shipping) Like I say, I've absolutely no way of explaining it, but it's 100% the cheaper option to buy them individually in the same order here in Aus... [From a Canadian perspective.] Digi is correct about the 14-pack CD bundle being the better deal. However, the 10-pack CD bundle option is noticeably more expensive than purchasing them all individually. I'm in need of the 10-release option. We're witnessing botched bundle saving selections being offered to Australian and Canadian customers.
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Post by eldersensorite on May 26, 2021 19:14:22 GMT
I agree with others that it's difficult to get too excited about this without many details, but I am wondering if I should use the revamp as an opportunity to move over to download-only... with an ever-growing collection and the fact they just don't put the same level of effort into the CD releases they used to maybe it's time. I also think 3 discs is a bad number for CD sets because it doesn't really fill up the double jewel case thing, it's a shame to lose the individual cover art but at least with 4 disc sets you feel like you're saving shelf space whereas 3 discs feels like it may as well be individual cases since that wouldn't be much bigger
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 19:18:12 GMT
I don't think this announcement was really supposed to get people "excited" - that's what the individual announcements of what each release is will do (or not). This is really, as Nick says, just the equivalent of introducing a way for people like me, Mark, Audio and others who were MR subscibers to just pay it off in advance even though it's all "TBA" and get some pre-order cash in. As was the Main Range when I resubbed each time - I didn't know what Doctors would be in them much less details.
The people who pick and choose, wait on sales or only order closer to the time..yeah - there's nothing terribly exciting in this but not every development is gonna be for everyone. This is the bone thrown to us subscribers. To the people who buy more ad-hoc, the announcement of what each "TBA" actually is, that's the one more aimed at selling things to you.
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