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Post by kipperserver on Feb 11, 2022 22:57:40 GMT
Do we think Big Finish's decisin not to cast John Guilor as the First Doctor was anything to do with that "Black Adric" sketch he did that disappearedf off the internet about a year ago>
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Post by Kestrel on Feb 12, 2022 8:05:21 GMT
Wait, the what sketch?
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Post by kipperserver on Feb 12, 2022 10:37:56 GMT
Guilor had a soundcloud channel with comedy sketches on it and one was a "funny Jamacaian voiced Adric" sketch callefd Black Adric which a lot of people thought was rascist. He deleted his account last year very soon after all the Noel Clarke stories started coming out. Im not saying their linked but if he was going to play the First Doctor that might have effected his chances.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Feb 12, 2022 20:30:01 GMT
Do we think Big Finish's decisin not to cast John Guilor as the First Doctor was anything to do with that "Black Adric" sketch
No, he long ago said he was uncomfortable with how his two performances as the Doctor were recieved with such zeal and that he didn't want to play the role full-length.
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Post by theillusiveman on Feb 13, 2022 2:55:35 GMT
Do we think Big Finish's decisin not to cast John Guilor as the First Doctor was anything to do with that "Black Adric" sketch
No, he long ago said he was uncomfortable with how his two performances as the Doctor were recieved with such zeal and that he didn't want to play the role full-length.
A real shame as he was really good i think i remember even hearing some of his First Doctor work in a trailer of Ian Levines Doctor Who Projects with him and Carol Ann Ford as Susam wish that he would have enjoyed it enough and that Big Finish would have employed him
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 24, 2022 0:59:01 GMT
So, last time I'll probably discuss the man because he's gotten far more attention than he should ever deserve, but if there's still someone who wants to argue 'But Dreyfus (or Roberts, or possibly even Raynor) didn't do anything wrong. His opinion about trans people doesn't hurt anybody', look at what's just happened in Texas. www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/greg-abbott-trans-children-abuse-b2021870.htmlThis is the end result of what people like Dreyfus believe. This is their end goal. Real people, real families, get hurt for wanting to just live their lives.
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Post by elkawho on Feb 24, 2022 17:34:12 GMT
So, last time I'll probably discuss the man because he's gotten far more attention than he should ever deserve, but if there's still someone who wants to argue 'But Dreyfus (or Roberts, or possibly even Raynor) didn't do anything wrong. His opinion about trans people doesn't hurt anybody', look at what's just happened in Texas. www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/greg-abbott-trans-children-abuse-b2021870.htmlThis is the end result of what people like Dreyfus believe. This is their end goal. Real people, real families, get hurt for wanting to just live their lives. Yeah, I posted about this in the Made My Day thread. My daughter came out to me when she was 14 and I sent her for counseling. Under this rule the therapist, who is a mandated reporter would have been forced to report me for child abuse. I would have been under investigation and could have had both my children taken from me. This is horrific.
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Post by kipperserver on Feb 24, 2022 22:04:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2022 22:30:33 GMT
"everybody who was there on set and part of the fun enjoyed and laughed at the silliness that went on, we had a great time." Wow. OK...BF can ask Eccleston next time he is in the booth if he enjoyed it. Or why Julie Gardner had to call Barrowmans agent in and make it clear in 2008 that it would be tolerated any more. Sounds like the kinda stuff that happens when EVERYBODY enjoyed somethin eh? Clown even has the audacity to say some newspapers "bully me". We can add trivialization of a traumatic pattern of harassment many experience every day to his *ahem* crimes then. Yeah, Johnny boy, what you did was nowhere near as bad as Noel Clarke or Bruno Langley, but you are not a victim. What he has done is push me with his "What? Me?" act in the media from "OK..he needs to be taken out the picture, show real contrition and then I think we can welcome him back in a year or two" to "I sincerely hope he never returns in any DW media".
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Post by coffeeaddict on Feb 24, 2022 23:46:50 GMT
"everybody who was there on set and part of the fun enjoyed and laughed at the silliness that went on, we had a great time." Wow. OK...BF can ask Eccleston next time he is in the booth if he enjoyed it. Or why Julie Gardner had to call Barrowmans agent in and make it clear in 2008 that it would be tolerated any more. Sounds like the kinda stuff that happens when EVERYBODY enjoyed somethin eh? Clown even has the audacity to say some newspapers "bully me". We can add trivialization of a traumatic pattern of harassment many experience every day to his *ahem* crimes then. Yeah, Johnny boy, what you did was nowhere near as bad as Noel Clarke or Bruno Langley, but you are not a victim. What he has done is push me with his "What? Me?" act in the media from "OK..he needs to be taken out the picture, show real contrition and then I think we can welcome him back in a year or two" to "I sincerely hope he never returns in any DW media". He is slime. I forget the year, 2015 0r 16 I think, he was at the local comic con and his behaviour and comments both during the photo/autograph times and at his Q&A panel were atrocious. He flat out told a kid who'd make it clear they were underage that getting him a drink at a bar away from where the Con was taking place would get them a lot more. He learned nothing. Meeting him frankly made me unable to tolerate him as a person, or want to watch/listen to productions he was in.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 26, 2022 1:50:18 GMT
So, last time I'll probably discuss the man because he's gotten far more attention than he should ever deserve, but if there's still someone who wants to argue 'But Dreyfus (or Roberts, or possibly even Raynor) didn't do anything wrong. His opinion about trans people doesn't hurt anybody', look at what's just happened in Texas. www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/greg-abbott-trans-children-abuse-b2021870.htmlThis is the end result of what people like Dreyfus believe. This is their end goal. Real people, real families, get hurt for wanting to just live their lives. Yeah, I posted about this in the Made My Day thread. My daughter came out to me when she was 14 and I sent her for counseling. Under this rule the therapist, who is a mandated reporter would have been forced to report me for child abuse. I would have been under investigation and could have had both my children taken from me. This is horrific. Wish I had something more to say than, well, your daughter's got a wonderful mum.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2022 14:38:34 GMT
So, last time I'll probably discuss the man because he's gotten far more attention than he should ever deserve, but if there's still someone who wants to argue 'But Dreyfus (or Roberts, or possibly even Raynor) didn't do anything wrong. His opinion about trans people doesn't hurt anybody', look at what's just happened in Texas. www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/greg-abbott-trans-children-abuse-b2021870.htmlThis is the end result of what people like Dreyfus believe. This is their end goal. Real people, real families, get hurt for wanting to just live their lives. Yeah, I posted about this in the Made My Day thread. My daughter came out to me when she was 14 and I sent her for counseling. Under this rule the therapist, who is a mandated reporter would have been forced to report me for child abuse. I would have been under investigation and could have had both my children taken from me. This is horrific. Trans rights are human rights, and as far as Im concerned that puts Abbot and many of his party in violation of human rights and they should be dealt with as such. That this will not happen and instead is rolled out as a vote winner tells you all you need to - and already do - know about parts of the US. I can only imagine if some of these kind of people were the ones trying to leave in the civil war...then they woulda been told "OK, bye".
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Post by nitronine on Mar 10, 2022 15:13:51 GMT
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Post by jacobz40 on Mar 10, 2022 15:34:39 GMT
Soneone posted this on Gallifrey Base the other day and I was convinced they were joking. You couldn't have made up something this absurd.
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Post by constonks on Mar 10, 2022 20:25:43 GMT
What he has done is push me with his "What? Me?" act in the media from "OK..he needs to be taken out the picture, show real contrition and then I think we can welcome him back in a year or two" to "I sincerely hope he never returns in any DW media". Some people are just so so bad at saying "I messed up, no excuses, I'll try to be better." What's wild is they're often people who have PR teams - what advice are they getting??? (and the less said about the spacey thing the better)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2022 1:51:41 GMT
What he has done is push me with his "What? Me?" act in the media from "OK..he needs to be taken out the picture, show real contrition and then I think we can welcome him back in a year or two" to "I sincerely hope he never returns in any DW media". Some people are just so so bad at saying "I messed up, no excuses, I'll try to be better." What's wild is they're often people who have PR teams - what advice are they getting??? (and the less said about the spacey thing the better)Absolutely - if he said "You know, I was immature and worse, insensitive. I was so busy attempting to make everyone laugh, it did not occur to me how people felt deep down and that they may not have felt they had sway to come forward about it." - he probably would still have needed a little sabbatical. After all, SO many convention anecdotes, the fact he lied about it ending in 2008 when reprimanded when we know he did it on Miracle Day after that..etc. And it was just post Noel Clarke and Bruno Langley who did FAR worse but as a much more popular name, John would have taken the fall. But with the contrition and time...he could be back by now. Maybe not on TV - too few eps and the Beeb would probably want to play it safe - but in his own spinoff show on audio, I do not think many believed he could never come back from this. Which, now he acts like its all media bias and he was shafted, is where I think he is. Luckily, BF made Torchwood FAR more than Jack and co, so his presence is not anywhere near as much of an issue as it would be with, say, a rebooted TW BBC3 show which with RTD back may not have been impossible. I have been quite vocal that of all the TW regulars I think he is actually the worst on audio even before it kicked off with him. Performances can be erratic and lines come off awkward with a sense that he is - as many do - just reading the script for the first time while in the booth. But John does brooding when it needs the happy Jack or vice versa too often. And, frankly, he is ALWAYS best for me as a Doctor Who sideshow than a leading man actor anyway. Not everyone has that gravitas to hold a show. Eve does, John does not. That is not even an insult, its just a difference in style. In DW equivalents Davison has had over 40 years of non-stop work and many prime time leads because he has that lead feel, wheras Sylv? More a character actor. John never had the chops to hold Torchwood down for me. A major reason why those first two series were so hit and miss on TV.
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Post by kipperserver on Mar 20, 2022 13:40:58 GMT
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Post by nitronine on Mar 20, 2022 14:37:02 GMT
Content warning: transphobia, SA, and islamophobia {Spoiler}
Frances Barber implying that trans women are secretly rapists, a common fear amongst TERFs with no evidence for it. She's also been tweeting hateful things about trans swimmer Lia Thomas. I've found the below thread, open to see the full thing, where she is also Islamophobic.
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Post by BHTvsTFC on Mar 27, 2022 18:42:05 GMT
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Post by mark687 on Mar 27, 2022 18:55:54 GMT
And round it goes.
Multiple allegations made, described, investigated and all found not to have met "The threshold of criminal Investigation and charge" WTH
I bet you the next move is he sues for Slander and Loss of Income.
Regards
mark687
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