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Post by mark687 on Aug 17, 2022 8:38:21 GMT
That makes no sense!
Its all reported that at least 3 Women made formal statements (now those statements may've been withdrawn but an investigation was reported to have been launched {even if apparently anything discovered didn't merit criminal prosecution}
And now the 5 Actresses that went public with their accusations now look in the wrong and their reputations could be damaged, NC's reputation is damaged, and now he could (justifiable it seems) sue a lot of people involved.
Regards
mark687
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Aug 17, 2022 10:32:42 GMT
No surprise, Clarke uses the absolute definition of semantics to go 'see? LIARS, because I say so!'.
Remember, not investigated is not the same as exonerated, innocent or framed. If he really had something substantial that could've shut the whole thing down, he would've produced it by now and the Met would say so (frankly, after the last few years, they need an easy win like that).
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Post by mark687 on Aug 17, 2022 10:50:28 GMT
No surprise, Clarke uses the absolute definition of semantics to go 'see? LIARS, because I say so!'. Remember, not investigated is not the same as exonerated, innocent or framed. In no way defending the alleged actions here, but its in public domain that it was investigated, he has now got the police to confirm they were never considered formal investigations, so yes, frustratingly for the women affected it amounts to that sentiment. Regards mark687
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Aug 17, 2022 16:08:21 GMT
No surprise, Clarke uses the absolute definition of semantics to go 'see? LIARS, because I say so!'. Remember, not investigated is not the same as exonerated, innocent or framed. In no way defending the alleged actions here, but its in public domain that it was investigated, he has now got the police to confirm they were never considered formal investigations, so yes, frustratingly for the women affected it amounts to that sentiment. Regards mark687 Oh it wasn't aimed at you. I was just commenting on the situation.
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Post by sherlock on Aug 18, 2022 7:14:49 GMT
Seems one controversial associate is endorsing the other.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Aug 21, 2022 9:34:18 GMT
Seems one controversial associate is endorsing the other. And it gets worse. (For those who've thankfully forgotten him, John is one of the more infamous NMDs on Twitter, a conspiracy nut who alleges, among other things, that Jodie and Mandip are secretly in a relationship and the reason they got hired was to promote 'a lesbian agenda'.)
Naturally, I trust a guy like that to do the legwork of an thorough investigation and have an objective outlook.
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Post by timleschild on Aug 21, 2022 9:45:18 GMT
Horrible people under the RTD era
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Post by dorney on Aug 21, 2022 11:42:22 GMT
Seems one controversial associate is endorsing the other. And it gets worse.
(For those who've thankfully forgotten him, John is one of the more infamous NMDs on Twitter, a conspiracy nut who alleges, among other things, that Jodie and Mandip are secretly in a relationship and the reason they got hired was to promote 'a lesbian agenda'.)
Naturally, I trust a guy like that to do the legwork of an thorough investigation and have an objective outlook.
I vaguely recall having an entirely logic free ‘debate’ with him about something like Tania Bell where he was terribly smug and superior about not making much sense, so I muted him and got on with my life.
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Post by thewatcher on Aug 24, 2022 10:18:05 GMT
Why does this person’s post read like a homophobic dogwhistle? Like benefit of the doubt but referring to sin is weird… benefit of the doubt but accuse me of being homophobic. Delete your post please.
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Post by Ela on Aug 24, 2022 17:09:11 GMT
Why does this person’s post read like a homophobic dogwhistle? Like benefit of the doubt but referring to sin is weird… benefit of the doubt but accuse me of being homophobic. Delete your post please. Maybe it would help if you explain what you mean by your comment about sin. Just adding that I don't think you're homophobic, but an explanation of the comment would be helpful so the rest of us can understand what your comment meant.
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Post by penguintim on Aug 27, 2022 13:12:49 GMT
Horrible people under the RTD era RTD has nothing to do with this
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Post by timleschild on Aug 27, 2022 13:52:31 GMT
Horrible people under the RTD era RTD has nothing to do with this Wasn't he in charge when Noel Clarke and John Barrowman were up to their stuff?
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Post by penguintim on Aug 27, 2022 16:58:14 GMT
RTD has nothing to do with this Wasn't he in charge when Noel Clarke and John Barrowman were up to their stuff? Yes. However, given that 1) RTD was not wholly responsible for everything happening on set (he probably wasn't even on set most of the time), 2) John Barrowman was reprimanded after somebody complained, 3) Noel Clarke was being a creep on other productions, indicating that this is a wider issue than something RTD/Doctor Who specific and 3) There doesn't appear to be any evidence of any stuff like this happening on any of the other shows RTD has been in charge of for the last 30 odd years or so, trying to boil this down to "Grr RTD bad" is disingenuous at best.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Aug 27, 2022 19:24:47 GMT
Wasn't he in charge when Noel Clarke and John Barrowman were up to their stuff? Yes. However, given that 1) RTD was not wholly responsible for everything happening on set (he probably wasn't even on set most of the time), 2) John Barrowman was reprimanded after somebody complained, 3) Noel Clarke was being a creep on other productions, indicating that this is a wider issue than something RTD/Doctor Who specific and 3) There doesn't appear to be any evidence of any stuff like this happening on any of the other shows RTD has been in charge of for the last 30 odd years or so, trying to boil this down to "Grr RTD bad" is disingenuous at best. Indeed, The Writer's Tale confirms RTD was barely on the set due to the workload, and the kind of duties that would've involved keeping a leash on JB and NC was on other people. Doesn't excuse what happened, but still.
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Post by timleschild on Aug 27, 2022 21:51:08 GMT
Wasn't he in charge when Noel Clarke and John Barrowman were up to their stuff? Yes. However, given that 1) RTD was not wholly responsible for everything happening on set (he probably wasn't even on set most of the time), 2) John Barrowman was reprimanded after somebody complained, 3) Noel Clarke was being a creep on other productions, indicating that this is a wider issue than something RTD/Doctor Who specific and 3) There doesn't appear to be any evidence of any stuff like this happening on any of the other shows RTD has been in charge of for the last 30 odd years or so, trying to boil this down to "Grr RTD bad" is disingenuous at best. Repremanded?How? In a joke song that mentioned his behaviour? Maybe speak to Eccelstone about this. I never say grrr RTD bad just that he must take some responsibility it happened on is watch also during Torchwood.
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Post by cwm on Aug 27, 2022 22:10:28 GMT
"Gardner confirmed that she received a complaint around 2008 about Barrowman’s conduct on the set of Torchwood. “I met with John and reprimanded him,” Gardner said, adding that she also spoke to other executive producers, Barrowman’s agent, and the head of BBC drama commissioning, to “make it clear to both John and his agent that behaviour of this kind would not be tolerated … To my knowledge, John’s inappropriate behaviour stopped thereafter,” she added." www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/may/07/noel-clarke-accused-of-sexual-harassment-on-doctor-who-set
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Post by Ela on Aug 28, 2022 1:46:23 GMT
It may have stopped as far as Gardner knows, and may have actually stopped on the set of Doctor Who, but from what I heard it didn't stop elsewhere.
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Post by lidar2 on Sept 8, 2022 9:41:06 GMT
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Post by muddyviolet on Oct 20, 2022 12:12:42 GMT
Dreyfus seemingly harassing people on Twitter who find him transphobic, he seems to be angry BF aren't employing him anymore over the transphoia stuff.
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Post by timleschild on Oct 20, 2022 12:42:43 GMT
Dreyfus seemingly harassing people on Twitter who find him transphobic, he seems to be angry BF aren't employing him anymore over the transphoia stuff. Has he got a show on GB news yet?
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