shutupbanks
Chancellery Guard
There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Nov 8, 2022 10:42:07 GMT
There’s a lot of difference between speculating on the business practices of a major corporation and discussing the potentially-criminal activities of individual people. I’ve expressed doubts and referred back to things that have happened in the past, not repeated things told to me by some bloke in the pub with a whippet. Equally there’s a lot of difference between quoting from social media - which you’ve done yourself - and also first-hand experience from people. Yet you seem to change your mind as you see fit. It just reads as though it’s more concern about missing out on product, or product featuring the actors in question, rather than any other concern. There’s so much more to it than that and there’s equally so much more being discussed than a Facebook link. Just my perspective, of course. I’ve quoted the Telegraph from Reddit and posted a couple of things from Twitter. But I’ve mentioned where they’ve come from to provide context. I’m also not changing my mind as I see fit. I’m not defaming Disney by saying that I don’t like some of their business practices. But if I say “someone said…” about an individual’s history I’m possibly telling a lie about them. There’s a difference.
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Post by sherlock on Dec 13, 2022 14:08:08 GMT
Barrowman now seems to be very publicly falling out with Eve Myles, so guess he’s not taking her return in Among Us well.
Edit-he’s since deleted the tweet, but the internet never forgets:
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Dec 13, 2022 15:11:55 GMT
Barrowman now seems to be very publicly falling out with Eve Myles, so guess he’s not taking her return in Among Us well. But remember, he's totally sorry and has apologized before, so it's all cool. Clearly these are the actions of a remorseful and penitent adult.
(At this point, send your angry emails about Absent Friends to him instead of BF. He's the one holding everything up.)
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Post by timleschild on Dec 13, 2022 15:32:09 GMT
How long until this turd of a man turns up on GBNews?
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Post by kipperserver on Dec 13, 2022 16:17:59 GMT
Barrowman Twitter account now deactivatedf/deleted.
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Post by timleschild on Dec 13, 2022 17:55:29 GMT
Barrowman Twitter account now deactivatedf/deleted. So now he really is an Absent Friend Fiend?
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Post by theillusiveman on Dec 13, 2022 21:47:18 GMT
Barrowman Twitter account now deactivatedf/deleted. Ah darn a real shame
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Post by timleschild on Dec 13, 2022 22:05:43 GMT
Barrowman Twitter account now deactivatedf/deleted. Ah darn a real shame He's still got instagram so its fine for his fans.
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Post by mark687 on Dec 15, 2022 15:59:33 GMT
Strongly Worded
Regards
mark687
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Post by kipperserver on Dec 15, 2022 18:06:11 GMT
The kindest loving warm hearted person who called his form er co-star a liar "spewing rhetoric for an audence"!!!
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Post by kipperserver on Dec 15, 2022 18:07:29 GMT
"Eve Myels has left the Torchwood Originals whatsapp group"
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Dec 15, 2022 22:11:05 GMT
Strongly Worded Regards mark687 So, I'll have to word this as tactfully as I can (and this'll likely be the last time I ever comment on JB because it's just repetition at this point): just like I said when Gary Russell demanded people forgive Adrian Rigelsford, it's not Mori's place to tell us what we are and aren't allowed to think. Obviously I get wanting to stand up for your friend, but I think this is indicative of the problem with this entire saga around Barrowman - the people closest to him are wrapping him in cotton wool and rewarding bad behaviour.
Is harrassment, of any sort, acceptable because of what Barrowman did? No. I don't and never will condone it. There is a line between criticism and nastiness, and some have crossed it and if it's doing harm to him, it's not alright. However, the constant framing of his now many documented instances of poor conduct as nothing more than harmless 'jokes' is not right either. Ignoring the boundaries and consent of your peers, as well as the stressed crews doing long hours to get the shows actually filmed, is a problem. Giving insincere 'apologies' and then resuming those same patterns of behaviour for over a decade is a problem. Either Barrowman doesn't understand why his mistakes are bad, or the people in his life won't let him understand - neither is good. Nobody is being the adult.
What should've been a moment for not only Barrowman, but indeed for the fandom, to think about how the people who make the stuff we like who aren't names like the Doctor or the showrunner are treated, instead became a giant pity parade. This should've been a discussion about how TV crews are treated like crap and should have the right to a safe and professional working environment, and it wasn't.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Dec 15, 2022 23:46:27 GMT
Okay, last-last post on this but it works as an addendum. Eve has said she and John have made peace and there's no TW reboot happening.
I'm glad there's no bad blood, but like I wrote above, this is part of the core problem. A discussion about bad work culture was and is still being flattened into a discussion about just one man's feelings. The bigger issues are left unresolved and no one really learns anything from this whole affair.
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Post by timleschild on Dec 16, 2022 10:33:25 GMT
John Barrowman is a sick pervert. That's it. Nothing more to be said.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Mar 27, 2023 15:23:09 GMT
Well here's a thread I'd hoped to see the back of, but no. The 'super innocent' Clarke is back at it, and this time, he's bribing journalists to make a comeback.
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Post by timleschild on Mar 27, 2023 16:54:01 GMT
Well here's a thread I'd hoped to see the back of, but no. The 'super innocent' Clarke is back at it, and this time, he's bribing journalists to make a comeback. disgusting pig
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Post by bonehead on Jul 19, 2023 13:08:40 GMT
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Post by timleschild on Jul 19, 2023 13:48:11 GMT
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