There’s a lot of difference between speculating on the business practices of a major corporation and discussing the potentially-criminal activities of individual people. I’ve expressed doubts and referred back to things that have happened in the past, not repeated things told to me by some bloke in the pub with a whippet.
Equally there’s a lot of difference between quoting from social media - which you’ve done yourself - and also first-hand experience from people. Yet you seem to change your mind as you see fit.
It just reads as though it’s more concern about missing out on product, or product featuring the actors in question, rather than any other concern. There’s so much more to it than that and there’s equally so much more being discussed than a Facebook link. Just my perspective, of course.
I’ve quoted the Telegraph from Reddit and posted a couple of things from Twitter. But I’ve mentioned where they’ve come from to provide context.
I’m also not changing my mind as I see fit. I’m not defaming Disney by saying that I don’t like some of their business practices. But if I say “someone said…” about an individual’s history I’m possibly telling a lie about them. There’s a difference.
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So, I'll have to word this as tactfully as I can (and this'll likely be the last time I ever comment on JB because it's just repetition at this point): just like I said when Gary Russell demanded people forgive Adrian Rigelsford, it's not Mori's place to tell us what we are and aren't allowed to think. Obviously I get wanting to stand up for your friend, but I think this is indicative of the problem with this entire saga around Barrowman - the people closest to him are wrapping him in cotton wool and rewarding bad behaviour.
Is harrassment, of any sort, acceptable because of what Barrowman did? No. I don't and never will condone it. There is a line between criticism and nastiness, and some have crossed it and if it's doing harm to him, it's not alright. However, the constant framing of his now many documented instances of poor conduct as nothing more than harmless 'jokes' is not right either. Ignoring the boundaries and consent of your peers, as well as the stressed crews doing long hours to get the shows actually filmed, is a problem. Giving insincere 'apologies' and then resuming those same patterns of behaviour for over a decade is a problem. Either Barrowman doesn't understand why his mistakes are bad, or the people in his life won't let him understand - neither is good. Nobody is being the adult.
What should've been a moment for not only Barrowman, but indeed for the fandom, to think about how the people who make the stuff we like who aren't names like the Doctor or the showrunner are treated, instead became a giant pity parade. This should've been a discussion about how TV crews are treated like crap and should have the right to a safe and professional working environment, and it wasn't.
Post by nucleusofswarm on Dec 15, 2022 23:46:27 GMT
Okay, last-last post on this but it works as an addendum. Eve has said she and John have made peace and there's no TW reboot happening.
I'm glad there's no bad blood, but like I wrote above, this is part of the core problem. A discussion about bad work culture was and is still being flattened into a discussion about just one man's feelings. The bigger issues are left unresolved and no one really learns anything from this whole affair.
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