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Post by kipperserver on Aug 4, 2021 18:05:44 GMT
He's cancelled himself. Good.
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Post by melkur on Aug 9, 2021 0:34:58 GMT
You know, I'd like to be half as mature as James Drefus when I reach my 50s...
"Oh HaVe A bAsEmEnT (quality time to one's self), yOu TrOlL!"
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Aug 9, 2021 22:52:48 GMT
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Aug 9, 2021 23:50:52 GMT
At this point, you can't crack a joke because the cycle always goes the same. Vic Mignonga, Bill Cosby, Louis CK, Gina Carano, Dreyfuss, Barrowman, Clarke - we do the same song and dance every time. Why does money and fame go to people's heads like this?
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Aug 10, 2021 1:08:49 GMT
At this point, you can't crack a joke because the cycle always goes the same. Vic Mignonga, Bill Cosby, Louis CK, Gina Carano, Dreyfuss, Barrowman, Clarke - we do the same song and dance every time. Why does money and fame go to people's heads like this?
The nerve of him.. HHMM :-(
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Post by idle453 on Aug 10, 2021 15:15:36 GMT
At this point, you can't crack a joke because the cycle always goes the same. Vic Mignonga, Bill Cosby, Louis CK, Gina Carano, Dreyfuss, Barrowman, Clarke - we do the same song and dance every time. Why does money and fame go to people's heads like this?
No trying to get too involved here but do Louis CK, Gina Carano and Dreyfuss really belong grouped with the others. I don't recall sexual harassment accusations about those three (I may have missed them). Whether you agree with their comments or not, are they equal to the actions of the others? Please note, this is a serious question and not trying to defend or accuse anyone. Also, I would posit that the money and fame doesn't go to their heads so much as it causes us to hear about it. If Noel, for example, were a low level accountant and did the exact same thing, would it make the news?
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Post by ollychops on Aug 10, 2021 16:30:41 GMT
No trying to get too involved here but do Louis CK, Gina Carano and Dreyfuss really belong grouped with the others. I don't recall sexual harassment accusations about those three (I may have missed them). Whether you agree with their comments or not, are they equal to the actions of the others? Please note, this is a serious question and not trying to defend or accuse anyone. Also, I would posit that the money and fame doesn't go to their heads so much as it causes us to hear about it. If Noel, for example, were a low level accountant and did the exact same thing, would it make the news? Louis CK certainly belongs to that group. He's been accused by multiple women of sexual misconduct and harassment. Carano and Dreyfus might not be on the same level as the others because it's not sexual harassment, but they're awful people who don't mind publicly airing their bigoted views.
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Post by idle453 on Aug 10, 2021 17:55:23 GMT
No trying to get too involved here but do Louis CK, Gina Carano and Dreyfuss really belong grouped with the others. I don't recall sexual harassment accusations about those three (I may have missed them). Whether you agree with their comments or not, are they equal to the actions of the others? Please note, this is a serious question and not trying to defend or accuse anyone. Also, I would posit that the money and fame doesn't go to their heads so much as it causes us to hear about it. If Noel, for example, were a low level accountant and did the exact same thing, would it make the news? Louis CK certainly belongs to that group. He's been accused by multiple women of sexual misconduct and harassment. Carano and Dreyfus might not be on the same level as the others because it's not sexual harassment, but they're awful people who don't mind publicly airing their bigoted views. Thanks for letting me know about Louis CK. Truthfully all I know about him is he's a comedian and in a controversy. I am still curious if Carano, as an example, posted her views because she's famous or if she would have posted the same views but never had them heard if she were an unknown.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Aug 10, 2021 20:54:51 GMT
No trying to get too involved here but do Louis CK, Gina Carano and Dreyfuss really belong grouped with the others. I don't recall sexual harassment accusations about those three (I may have missed them). Whether you agree with their comments or not, are they equal to the actions of the others? Please note, this is a serious question and not trying to defend or accuse anyone. Also, I would posit that the money and fame doesn't go to their heads so much as it causes us to hear about it. If Noel, for example, were a low level accountant and did the exact same thing, would it make the news? The point there wasn't so much about abuse as it was the cycle of performative apologies followed by doubling down and denial from celebrities caught doing various bad things. The individual offenses differ, but the response is almost identical each time.
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Post by idle453 on Aug 11, 2021 2:33:41 GMT
No trying to get too involved here but do Louis CK, Gina Carano and Dreyfuss really belong grouped with the others. I don't recall sexual harassment accusations about those three (I may have missed them). Whether you agree with their comments or not, are they equal to the actions of the others? Please note, this is a serious question and not trying to defend or accuse anyone. Also, I would posit that the money and fame doesn't go to their heads so much as it causes us to hear about it. If Noel, for example, were a low level accountant and did the exact same thing, would it make the news? The point there wasn't so much about abuse as it was the cycle of performative apologies followed by doubling down and denial from celebrities caught doing various bad things. The individual offenses differ, but the response is almost identical each time. Ah, I understand. I misread it to mean the bad things were the effect of the fame and money not the cycle of apology, doing it again, repeat. I can agree that famous people tend to think they can get away with stuff if they just say the right thing. Thank you for clarifying.
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Post by kipperserver on Aug 13, 2021 10:13:52 GMT
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Post by grinch on Aug 13, 2021 10:20:19 GMT
I wouldn’t worry about it. Kamelion is a well known nutter in certain parts of the internet. Prone to concocting wild fantasies and fabrications. Just an attention seeker if truth be told.
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Post by sherlock on Aug 13, 2021 10:25:52 GMT
Just the latest instalment in that guy’s long running vendetta against this forum and Gallifrey Base.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 10:59:13 GMT
Its a long story, like fr a longgg story but yeah so much to say you don’t need pay the writings any heed, its written by a person with suspected? Mental health issues and has been known to make up completely false claims before, and nearly facing legal trouble because of it. I haven’t read the contents but i assure you don’t need to pay any attention to what that person say Edit- didn’t see people had already commented
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Post by mark687 on Aug 13, 2021 11:01:46 GMT
A person who needs Mental Health help IF they do that that's Libal and Slander processes on a grand scale ensuing! Regards mark687
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Post by grinch on Aug 13, 2021 11:02:44 GMT
A person who needs Mental Health help IF they do that that's Libal and Slander processes on a grand scale ensuing! Regards mark687 Gives the robot a bad name if you ask me.
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Post by Whovitt on Aug 13, 2021 11:21:44 GMT
The individual in question has openly harassed and deliberately attempted to spread false rumours about forum members and Big Finish staff, both while he was active here, and after we banned him for said conduct. After another such incident a couple of months ago, we determined that we would no longer allow our site to be used to fuel traffic to his website, so the mod team is asking this particular conversation be left here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 11:45:05 GMT
The individual in question has openly harassed and deliberately attempted to spread false rumours about forum members and Big Finish staff, both while he was active here, and after we banned him for said conduct. After another such incident a couple of months ago, we determined that we would no longer allow our site to be used to fuel traffic to his website, so the mod team is asking this particular conversation be left here. That's all well and good, but ... the post [linked to above] by Kamelion specifically mentions the Divergent Universe Forum, and while we all know that these are false allegations, for people on this forum to not be able to discuss this, and forums are for discussion after all, is a bit like censorship.
Of course we don't want to give this individual traffic for his website, but we don't need to stick our heads in the sand and hide away from spurious allegations either.
I hope we get to see these " 74,540 documents" that are going to be released. They sound interesting. We might need a whole thread to discuss them even... if they exist.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 11:54:58 GMT
The individual in question has openly harassed and deliberately attempted to spread false rumours about forum members and Big Finish staff, both while he was active here, and after we banned him for said conduct. After another such incident a couple of months ago, we determined that we would no longer allow our site to be used to fuel traffic to his website, so the mod team is asking this particular conversation be left here. That's all well and good, but ... the post [linked to above] by Kamelion specifically mentions the Divergent Universe Forum, and while we all know that these are false allegations, for people on this forum to not be able to discuss this, and forums are for discussion after all, is a bit like censorship.
Of course we don't want to give this individual traffic for his website, but we don't need to stick our heads in the sand and hide away from spurious allegations either.
I hope we get to see these " 74,540 documents" that are going to be released. They sound interesting. We might need a whole thread to discuss them even... if they exist.
I think due to the sensitive situation its best to not discuss it here. Theres the obvious suspected mental health issues, as well as anything else said is just more stuff for the person in question to talk about, whereas if they aren’t mentioned theres nothing to talk about. Explaining the situation to newcomers when they come across the fellow is fine as was done earlier, but other than that, in my humble non mod opinion of course, all talking about it will do will fire up someone we suspect is quite unwell, and so the discussion won’t just have no effect but perhaps a negative one, which i think is the distinction between this and other topics
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Post by Ela on Aug 13, 2021 12:28:07 GMT
I agree. Let’s not give him undue attention. And let’s please move on from this discussion of him and his site.
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