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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jul 29, 2021 21:10:40 GMT
I hope Segun Akinola stays with the show. Love his work.
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Post by relativetime on Jul 29, 2021 21:25:15 GMT
It’s sad, but I guess it really isn’t all that unexpected either given everything that’s happened since Jodie stepped into the role (*cough*covid*cough*). I do wish we could have had more stories and series with her Doctor - three series has always, always felt like too little time.
I’m looking forward to everyone waxing poetically how much better everything was under Chibnall and Jodie once the next team steps in. Good luck to them - it’s certainly a thankless job sometimes.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jul 29, 2021 21:42:28 GMT
Now, if you've ever wondered 'how do other writers react to a showrunner change?', well, here's a sampling:
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Post by timegirl on Jul 29, 2021 21:46:39 GMT
Now, if you've ever wondered 'how do other writers react to a showrunner change?', well, here's a sampling: I think the best showrunner would probably have to be someone already especially passionate about DW so they won’t mind the small bbc budget and are just happy to be working on a show they love.
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Post by mark687 on Jul 29, 2021 21:53:22 GMT
Sums up the great oxymoron of DW it needs the money of a streaming platform backing it to thrive but the BBC can't give it up cause then they'll get the calls of "Wait a minute we fund this through public money How Dare You Let's Defund the the whole Organization!"
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jul 29, 2021 21:54:36 GMT
Now, if you've ever wondered 'how do other writers react to a showrunner change?', well, here's a sampling: And here's one more:
(Both James Moran and Sarah Dollard approve her version)
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Post by mark687 on Jul 29, 2021 22:00:39 GMT
Now, if you've ever wondered 'how do other writers react to a showrunner change?', well, here's a sampling: And here's one more:
Literally illustrating the other point, there are some "Lauded" Writers who wouldn't touch the Showrunner role with a Barge Pole! Regards mark687
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 22:01:37 GMT
(Both James Moran and Sarah Dollard approve her version)
Haha! That's brilliant - give her the job immediately!
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Post by timegirl on Jul 29, 2021 22:10:04 GMT
Literally illustrating the other point, there are some "Lauded" Writers who wouldn't touch the Showrunner role with a Barge Pole! Regards mark687 Maybe the BBC should hire a mostly unknown up and coming tv writer who is just really passionate about DW for the show-runner who would just appreciate working on a show they love and get more industry exposure rather than someone well known who wouldn’t enjoy or be excited by the experience.
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Post by muckypup on Jul 29, 2021 22:10:59 GMT
i for one am happy they going, always felt wrong in the job and never really feel like they settled in ...
they have tried but like poor 6th doctor afraid no one will pick 13th as their favorite tv version
i really hope we get a fun but not as silly take on the doctor next, kinda got my hopes on the future incarnation from series 2 gets it........
their tenure could have been worse but could have been so much better, they got a few episodes left to find their stride
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 22:11:07 GMT
I’m looking forward to everyone waxing poetically how much better everything was under Chibnall and Jodie once the next team steps in. Good luck to them - it’s certainly a thankless job sometimes. Things would have to be really bad for me to ever say things were better under Chris Chibnall. I'm glad to see him go, and I don't care who doesn't like it! Now, there is a chance S13 and the specials could make me change my mind, but only if the Timeless Child nonsense is not built upon ... do I not like that! (© Graham Taylor). Generally for me the writing has been terrible (S11 especially) and a lot of Chibnall's stories are often too preachy... the villains have been fairly lame as well, with none ever likely to achieve classic 'Doctor Who monster' status like Daleks, Cybermen, Autons, or Weeping Angels (etc.) There were some exciting times and some high points, [Rosa/Demons of the Punjab/Witchfinders/Spyfall] and Jodie Whittaker was actually very good in the role. I loved Graham too, and of course Sacha's Master really excelled. But overall from what I've seen so far Doctor Who has lost some of it's sparkle of late and the episodes are often just generic dullness. Change is welcomed.
The three companions thing didn't work for me either. Character development was non existent trying to fit them all in. The Doctor plus one is ideal for a 50-60 minute episode, two maybe at a push, but any more in the TARDIS just leaves characters being sidelined with no time to develop.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 23:05:18 GMT
Realised, rather obviously that taking seasons and eps out of it, by the time Jodie leaves at the end of next year, she'll have been the incumbent Doctor for longer than Smith and Capaldi by a year and just about the same time as Tennant. It REALLY doesn't feel that way. By this point in their runs things felt...settled. Or established. The fan-release of Tennant revisiting friends, Matt "seeing" Amy one last time or Capaldi getting his memories of Clara back wouldn't be there if, say, Tosin and Bradley came back in her last ep. It's an era that hasn't - and maybe this is bias confirmation - quite got deep enough in the heart to make moments like that possible or even desirable. Is that just me? I'm trying to be as objective as possible thinking that but I don't quite have a bond for the "fam" in the way I have for most others of "New" Who. Even the Tennant era, and he's far from my favourite Doctor either but RTD knew how to write a bit more of a relatable character group.
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Post by project37 on Jul 29, 2021 23:13:14 GMT
Best news of the past 18 months. At least until they announce some other virtue signaling woke idiot is going to be in charge. Aw, feel better?
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jul 29, 2021 23:15:34 GMT
Best news of the past 18 months. At least until they announce some other virtue signaling woke idiot is going to be in charge. Aw, feel better? Some people are just not worth it, man.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 23:16:22 GMT
Seeing quite a few people saying they'd like Gemma Whelan, including fans who don't know her as BF's Meddling Nun. Interesting idea - she's had a memorable cult character in Yara Grejoy in Game Of Thrones, a great dramatic turn as Karen Matthews in Moorside and comedy chops in Upstart Crow. And a memorable role in another culty show The End of the F***ing World. Known actor without being too big for the BBC. Has a much more rounded CV than most. And at 40, would be a good age for the gig.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Jul 29, 2021 23:21:43 GMT
Realised, rather obviously that taking seasons and eps out of it, by the time Jodie leaves at the end of next year, she'll have been the incumbent Doctor for longer than Smith and Capaldi by a year and just about the same time as Tennant. It REALLY doesn't feel that way. By this point in their runs things felt...settled. Or established. While you and I have very different takes on this era, I do agree with this point:Timeless Children and Revolution don't read like we're entering 13's endgame, or even that we're at the midpoint of her story. To go from that to 9 episodes to resolve the TC mystery and the Doctor's journey and transformation within that, as well as handling Yaz and Dan potential stories - it's going to possibly be too much (I suspect S13 looked different pre-covid). Will a new race of Time Lords be established? Will Rassilon, Omega or Tecteun be the big bad and how does this change the Doctor? Will there be any attempt to ask questions about where the Doctor came from, albeit in a nebulous way? And that's IF that's what S13 and the specials are going to do: Chibbs might go in another direction altogether and say that re-establishing the mystery was all that was meant to be.
Still, whoever it was that said they wanted Who more like Line of Duty - you got your wish.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 23:22:17 GMT
i for one am happy they going, always felt wrong in the job and never really feel like they settled in ... they have tried but like poor 6th doctor afraid no one will pick 13th as their favorite tv version i really hope we get a fun but not as silly take on the doctor next, kinda got my hopes on the future incarnation from series 2 gets it........ their tenure could have been worse but could have been so much better, they got a few episodes left to find their stride We're very much on the same page Pup - and you know things are weird when that happens! I would add though, Jodie will be a favourite of many. Every Doctor is someone's fave. It's a bit sad to me though that the moments I've been proudest of her in the role are in vids like her one for scared kids when the pandemic broke out, or the one just last week for someone with a serious illness. She's a wonderful ambassador. I just wish she'd had - and I don't want to pile on the man - a different head writer plotting her direction. Chibnall of Broadchurch was a master of watercooler TV. Hopefully the more longform story of S13 gets to show him doing that. We ALL want good Doctor Who, after all. None of us want it to be bad - or worse....mediocre. Hope you're well, my friend!
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jul 29, 2021 23:23:23 GMT
My 14th Doc picks Tom Ellis Idris Elba Hayley Attwell Jo Martin Harry Threadaway Matt Ryan Tim Roth Robert Carlyle Adrian Lester Tom Hiddleston Regards mark687 My best mate happens to share the exact name as "Constantine" in this list. LOLZ
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 29, 2021 23:25:39 GMT
Jodie leaving after 3 seasons I get - that seems par for the course. Chibnall seems to be leaving a bit soon. I just can't help wondering if he is scared of the 60th and doesn't feel himself up to the challenge of writing it so is getting out while he can?
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Post by stcoop on Jul 29, 2021 23:25:50 GMT
If we get to the end of their time without seeing Jo Martin and Sasha Dhawan again or if the whole thing gets hastily wrapped-up / retconned in their last episode I'd sat they were dumped in a desperate attempt to save the series and allowed to say it was their choice to leave in order to save face.
In fact those photos we saw of Jodie crying were probably the day she found out she'd been fired.
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