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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 23:03:36 GMT
I think he's a much more introverted man, which some mistake for aloofness. He doesn't seem to have kept up with any of the Wilderness Years books, audios etc, so I wouldn't be too surprised if Chris is someone who took on the job as a big fan, but more a lapsed one (with New Who maybe reigniting the flame) than Moffat and RTD who kept up with licenced media after 1989.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Oct 21, 2021 7:35:26 GMT
I think he's a much more introverted man, which some mistake for aloofness. He doesn't seem to have kept up with any of the Wilderness Years books, audios etc, so I wouldn't be too surprised if Chris is someone who took on the job as a big fan, but more a lapsed one (with New Who maybe reigniting the flame) than Moffat and RTD who kept up with licenced media after 1989. I can see why someone may take that impression, though my own contention is his era, while having clear echoes of RTD's, does seem to do a fair bit of aping of the Wilderness Years - at least, up to about 2000. The Timeless Child, It Takes You Away and its universe frog and little things here and there are closer to the era when writers were putting out things like 'What if Susan wasn't his granddaughter' or the cosmic surrealism-everything-and-the-kitchen-sink of Virgin and even early Big Finish, than to say RTD's big emotions or Moffat's fairytales.
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Post by stcoop on Oct 22, 2021 21:34:37 GMT
Proof of nothing beyond the fact the people are betting on her, I know, but I note that Lydia West is the only person whose odds of being the next Doctor keep going up. While still in first place Olly Alexander's odds have gone the other way and now she's right behind him. Amazing when she didn't even appear on the list at all until a few weeks ago.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Oct 26, 2021 9:17:33 GMT
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Post by commonman on Oct 30, 2021 8:55:27 GMT
I just thought of something: What if RTD does not try to do a series each year anymore but instead does a few specials so that it becomes more of an event? (like he did after series 4 and how 2022 is going to be) Series 14 has not been exactly confirmed yet, right?
Since he seems to be looking up to what Marvel is doing, maybe he would like to mimick the "a few movies every year" formula before branching into a multitude of spinoff series. If the budget is still an issue, it would probably be a plus too.
In Japan, there is a much loved animated franchise known as Lupin III which consistently put out a TV special once a year for decades, which makes me believe it could work.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Oct 30, 2021 9:29:51 GMT
I just thought of something: What if RTD does not try to do a series each year anymore but instead does a few specials so that it becomes more of an event? (like he did after series 4 and how 2022 is going to be) Series 14 has not been exactly confirmed yet, right? Since he seems to be looking up to what Marvel is doing, maybe he would like to mimick the "a few movies every year" formula before branching into a multitude of spinoff series. If the budget is still an issue, it would probably be a plus too. More than that: Marvel does a consistent stream of content, in multiple mediums, every year. A brand that's constantly present and relevant everywhere you go, to every demographic. We've had that almost every year since Iron Man (or Avengers 1, if you want to count strictly Disney's ownership and supercharging). Look at this year alone: Black Widow, Loki, Wandavision, Hawkeye, Spider Man, Eternals, Shang Chi.
I do also agree the unlikeliness of returning to a series a year - I think that's a thing of the past, even with the help from Bad Wolf/Sony. What may happen is rotation: whenever the main show's not on, TV spinoffs plug the caps and keep the brand alive in the mainstream. So example, 2023 - S14, 2024 - UNIT, I Master etc., 2025 - S15.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Nov 1, 2021 20:27:11 GMT
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Post by sherlock on Nov 1, 2021 20:40:07 GMT
One quick login to my Subscription later...(spoiler tagged for length)- {Spoiler} The deal bringing Russell T Davies back to the helm of Doctor Who could mean the BBC misses out on up to £40 million in commercial revenue for every ten episodes, sources have said.
The sci-fi series has always been made by the BBC or BBC Studios, the broadcaster’s commercial arm. However, Davies, who first rebooted it in 2005, made his return next year contingent on the transfer of control to Bad Wolf, a production firm based in Wales.
Sources said that Bad Wolf would be responsible for the creative direction and production but BBC Studios would look after international sales, merchandise and other ancillary matters. A source said: “It’s extraordinary that BBC Studios has just rolled over.”
Bad Wolf is run by two former BBC producers who worked with Davies on the 2005 relaunch. The company has backing from Sky but is expected to be acquired by Sony Pictures Television.
BBC Studios said: “BBC Studios is ultimately responsible for delivering the show and this production partnership is about long-term investment that will radically build on the already huge success of the show.”
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Nov 1, 2021 20:46:13 GMT
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Post by stcoop on Nov 1, 2021 20:56:13 GMT
Given that The Times is run by people whose goal in life is to destroy the BBC, I wouldn't trust their spin on anything.
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Post by mark687 on Nov 3, 2021 10:35:15 GMT
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Post by stcoop on Nov 3, 2021 11:49:22 GMT
I wish they wouldn't respond to provocation from Murdoch's rags but their response seems to confirm that RTD and Bad Wolf will have creative control over the series. (Which is not a bad thing as far as I'm concerned.)
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Post by Kestrel on Nov 3, 2021 12:03:06 GMT
I just thought of something: What if RTD does not try to do a series each year anymore but instead does a few specials so that it becomes more of an event? (like he did after series 4 and how 2022 is going to be) Series 14 has not been exactly confirmed yet, right? Since he seems to be looking up to what Marvel is doing, maybe he would like to mimick the "a few movies every year" formula before branching into a multitude of spinoff series. If the budget is still an issue, it would probably be a plus too. In Japan, there is a much loved animated franchise known as Lupin III which consistently put out a TV special once a year for decades, which makes me believe it could work. Might be an interesting way to take the series. Lupin (and Conan, for that matter) can get away with these standalone, yearly movies because everyone is intimately familiar with the core characters and premise, if not the deeper mythology. Doctor Who is very much a similar institution-- everyone knows who the Doctor is and what the show's about, so it doesn't really need a full series to set everything up an introduce audiences to everything. I mean, just look at how efficiently and subtly The Pilot managed to just immediately jump into everything, with a story designed to be perfectly accessible to new/casual audiences while still subtly referencing the deeper continuity of the franchise.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Nov 5, 2021 19:51:35 GMT
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Nov 5, 2021 20:33:27 GMT
I just thought of something: What if RTD does not try to do a series each year anymore but instead does a few specials so that it becomes more of an event? (like he did after series 4 and how 2022 is going to be) Series 14 has not been exactly confirmed yet, right? Since he seems to be looking up to what Marvel is doing, maybe he would like to mimick the "a few movies every year" formula before branching into a multitude of spinoff series. If the budget is still an issue, it would probably be a plus too. In Japan, there is a much loved animated franchise known as Lupin III which consistently put out a TV special once a year for decades, which makes me believe it could work. Might be an interesting way to take the series. Lupin (and Conan, for that matter) can get away with these standalone, yearly movies because everyone is intimately familiar with the core characters and premise, if not the deeper mythology. Doctor Who is very much a similar institution-- everyone knows who the Doctor is and what the show's about, so it doesn't really need a full series to set everything up an introduce audiences to everything. I mean, just look at how efficiently and subtly The Pilot managed to just immediately jump into everything, with a story designed to be perfectly accessible to new/casual audiences while still subtly referencing the deeper continuity of the franchise. No we want more Who not less! I hope this is true. If we can't have Jo Martin it MUST be Lydia West.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Nov 5, 2021 20:44:47 GMT
Might be an interesting way to take the series. Lupin (and Conan, for that matter) can get away with these standalone, yearly movies because everyone is intimately familiar with the core characters and premise, if not the deeper mythology. Doctor Who is very much a similar institution-- everyone knows who the Doctor is and what the show's about, so it doesn't really need a full series to set everything up an introduce audiences to everything. I mean, just look at how efficiently and subtly The Pilot managed to just immediately jump into everything, with a story designed to be perfectly accessible to new/casual audiences while still subtly referencing the deeper continuity of the franchise. No we want more Who not less! I hope this is true. If we can't have Jo Martin it MUST be Lydia West. Lydia West would be a better choice, for at least ONE reason anyway. Casting a man again will inevitably feed the toxic vultures who will declare, no matter the reasons for the casting or the talents of the person cast, that it somehow "proves" they were right all along that a woman shouldn't be the Doctor and that 13 was a serious misstep and now the show is "back on the right track". I would love if this wasn't true but we all know it is.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Nov 5, 2021 21:04:40 GMT
If we can't have Jo Martin it MUST be Lydia West. Lydia West would be a better choice, for at least ONE reason anyway. Casting a man again will inevitably feed the toxic vultures who will declare, no matter the reasons for the casting or the talents of the person cast, that it somehow "proves" they were right all along that a woman shouldn't be the Doctor But the next big whinge on the fandom horizon is cliquey casting - bringing back an old producer, casting his mates again. There needs to be an influx of completely fresh blood.
So, I was intrigued when I saw how good the odds were for Rose Matafeo to be cast. I'm not convinced, but it's an intriguing idea.
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Post by elkawho on Nov 5, 2021 21:11:37 GMT
No we want more Who not less! I hope this is true. If we can't have Jo Martin it MUST be Lydia West. Lydia West would be a better choice, for at least ONE reason anyway. Casting a man again will inevitably feed the toxic vultures who will declare, no matter the reasons for the casting or the talents of the person cast, that it somehow "proves" they were right all along that a woman shouldn't be the Doctor and that 13 was a serious misstep and now the show is "back on the right track". I would love if this wasn't true but we all know it is. Unfortunately I think you're right, although I hope not. I prefer a male Doctor, but not for any of the reasons you state. I just do. (Yeah, I know I'm going to get yelled at now.)
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Nov 5, 2021 21:17:25 GMT
Lydia West would be a better choice, for at least ONE reason anyway. Casting a man again will inevitably feed the toxic vultures who will declare, no matter the reasons for the casting or the talents of the person cast, that it somehow "proves" they were right all along that a woman shouldn't be the Doctor and that 13 was a serious misstep and now the show is "back on the right track". I would love if this wasn't true but we all know it is. Unfortunately I think you're right, although I hope not. I prefer a male Doctor, but not for any of the reasons you state. I just do. (Yeah, I know I'm going to get yelled at now.) There's nothing wrong with preferring a male Doctor though. Preferring a male Doctor is not equal to "The Doctor can only be male!" BLAH WHINE BLAH! Chibbers killed the franchise, BLAH WHINE BLAH when he cast 13!
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Nov 5, 2021 21:20:10 GMT
Lydia West would be a better choice, for at least ONE reason anyway. Casting a man again will inevitably feed the toxic vultures who will declare, no matter the reasons for the casting or the talents of the person cast, that it somehow "proves" they were right all along that a woman shouldn't be the Doctor But the next big whinge on the fandom horizon is cliquey casting - bringing back an old producer, casting his mates again. There needs to be an influx of completely fresh blood.
So, I was intrigued when I saw how good the odds were for Rose Matafeo to be cast. I'm not convinced, but it's an intriguing idea.
I say "Lydia West" but it could equally be Rose Matafeo for instance, or a multitude of other fabulous actors. Another man, especially another white man, will feed that toxicity. I wish it didn't. I really do, especially since that subset is a minority. Unfortunately they're really bloody loud.
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