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Post by mark687 on Aug 17, 2021 9:24:45 GMT
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Post by Kestrel on Aug 17, 2021 9:49:20 GMT
Definitely curious what y'all think of this one... I haven't quite made up my.mind about whether or not to buy it. Loved Carol Ann Ford as the older Susan in the 8DAs and Susan's War... but I can't say I'm terribly fond of her character in the TV show. At least outside of the pilot (where Susan was great, to my eternal annoyance at everything that came after).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 10:04:45 GMT
Tense, realistic, and atmospheric. That's what I love about this nostalgic trailer. 👏
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 11:09:51 GMT
Tense, realistic, and atmospheric. That's what I love about this nostalgic trailer. 👏 Agreed. BF's trailers have been pretty amazing of late, but this might be my favourite so far. It's so wonderfully bleak!
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Aug 17, 2021 11:47:35 GMT
Trailer should have been in b & w.
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Post by mark687 on Aug 17, 2021 11:49:04 GMT
Great Immediate follow on from Invasion of Earth. Settings and returning characters are evoked perfectly and some of consequences of the Invasion are dealt with tragic beauty.
2 things don't quite work though
Given what I've said about tragic beauty there's no doubt who the Villain is, there's no sympathy or subtlety to be had there!
The other thing I concede is a personal preference, maybe it should have had 3rd person narration from someone else as I always find it hard to distinguish Carol Ann Ford's narration from her performance style.
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Post by newt5996 on Aug 18, 2021 21:38:42 GMT
This was great and very different. Moore made some great decisions in exploring what a post-apocalypse would look like and it’s very human.
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Post by Ela on Aug 19, 2021 3:51:02 GMT
I wasn't going to get this, but I was intrigued by the sample I heard in the Big Finish podcast, so I may have to shell out my money for this one.
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Post by Timelord007 on Aug 19, 2021 13:01:56 GMT
I wasn't going to get this, but I was intrigued by the sample I heard in the Big Finish podcast, so I may have to shell out my money for this one. I say that too usually means I'm going to get purchase.
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Post by shallacatop on Aug 19, 2021 15:04:45 GMT
I wasn’t as enthralled with this as others. It’s not bad, but I didn’t think it was massively interesting after the first part. There’s nice snippets of world building and the immediate state of things immediately following The Dalek Invasion of Earth, but it ends up going into Doctor Who territory and is predictable to boot. A strange complaint, I know, but it’s not what I’d want or expect in a story set after the Doctor has left. And then to find a few days later they sort the Robomen situation out… if it was that easy, then why didn’t the Doctor do it before he left?
Perhaps the biggest flaw I found was that it doesn’t take advantage of that unique Early Adventures format. The narration is done by Carole Ann Ford as a narrator, rather than as Susan. I’d have preferred a story that spanned a greater period of time and the narration was Susan recalling the events. An anthology would’ve been much better, I think.
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Post by Timelord007 on Aug 19, 2021 15:13:23 GMT
I wasn’t as enthralled with this as others. It’s not bad, but I didn’t think it was massively interesting after the first part. There’s nice snippets of world building and the immediate state of things immediately following The Dalek Invasion of Earth, but it ends up going into Doctor Who territory and is predictable to boot. A strange complaint, I know, but it’s not what I’d want or expect in a story set after the Doctor has left. And then to find a few days later they sort the Robomen situation out… if it was that easy, then why didn’t the Doctor do it before he left? Perhaps the biggest flaw I found was that it doesn’t take advantage of that unique Early Adventures format. The narration is done by Carole Ann Ford as a narrator, rather than as Susan. I’d have preferred a story that spanned a greater period of time and the narration was Susan recalling the events. An anthology would’ve been much better, I think. Always enjoy reading your mini reviews as they are so well written & informative.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 16:01:31 GMT
After the Daleks is such a dark, yet thrilling sequel to The Dalek Invasion of Earth. Despite her grandfather being absent, the story works perfectly well with Susan and David Campbell taking on the lead roles. An Early Adventure worth the listen!
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Post by shallacatop on Aug 19, 2021 17:31:09 GMT
I wasn’t as enthralled with this as others. It’s not bad, but I didn’t think it was massively interesting after the first part. There’s nice snippets of world building and the immediate state of things immediately following The Dalek Invasion of Earth, but it ends up going into Doctor Who territory and is predictable to boot. A strange complaint, I know, but it’s not what I’d want or expect in a story set after the Doctor has left. And then to find a few days later they sort the Robomen situation out… if it was that easy, then why didn’t the Doctor do it before he left? Perhaps the biggest flaw I found was that it doesn’t take advantage of that unique Early Adventures format. The narration is done by Carole Ann Ford as a narrator, rather than as Susan. I’d have preferred a story that spanned a greater period of time and the narration was Susan recalling the events. An anthology would’ve been much better, I think. Always enjoy reading your mini reviews as they are so well written & informative. That’s really kind, thank you. I do try and have some positives and give my thoughts of where I think it could’ve been improved if I don’t love the release.
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Post by eldersensorite on Aug 19, 2021 20:36:28 GMT
This was always going to be a win for me because I adore Susan and I like stories about companions after they've left the Doctor but this also gave me big Survivors vibes which made me love it even more
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Aug 19, 2021 20:57:43 GMT
Is this full cast audio?
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Post by mark687 on Aug 19, 2021 21:01:01 GMT
Yes but with Linking Narration Regards mark687
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 22:46:17 GMT
I found After the Daleks to be fairly dull myself and I can't really see the point in it to be honest. The story is passable but Roland's The Night Witches was a much more solid EA, plus the 'Early Adventures' range is a tough market for Dalek stories after The Dalek Occupation of Winter and Daughter of the Gods, so matching the quality of all of those [excellent] stories is a tough ask.
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Post by barnabaslives on Aug 20, 2021 2:54:14 GMT
Somehow this probably isn't going to be a story I'll remember as groundbreaking, but it will be one I remember as very solid and very enjoyable, and perhaps it's just been too long since I heard Susan's War, but it seemed to me as if Carole Ann was in particularly good form and giving a particularly convincing and enthusiastic performance. Personally, all things considered I'm ranking it right up there with a few other favorites from the range like The Doctor's Tale, The Dalek Occupation of Winter, and Daughter of the Gods.
Can't say I was terribly surprised by the reveal, but then again sometimes it's nice to have just your basic transparent low-life for a villain and not misplace any affection for the character, and likewise if not surprise I did feel a welcome sense of justification about it, very much sort of an "Aha, I KNEW it!" moment.
I could put it this way, I was impressed enough with the story to want to stop in the middle and find out who the author was, which I very rarely do. Usually I can wait until the credits roll.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 14:03:22 GMT
This story was pretty much what I was expecting – an episode of Survivors (a range Roland Moore has written for) with added Daleks. I have no problem with that at all. Like The Secrets of Det-Sen, this isn’t a spectacular, fasty-moving epic; it has too much respect for its respective era for that. It’s a solid, leisurely paced story that – again like the other Early Years release this month – is heightened by a terrific central performance (really good acting all round, actually). Astonishing to think it’s almost 60 years since Carol Anne Ford first wandered aboard the TARDIS. Now, of course, the TARDIS and her friends are gone. She and David make a convincing team-up, not confident but resourceful in their fight, a fight that never ends. It's good that this tale finally allows her to make choices for herself.
One thing I really enjoyed was the parallel between Daleks and human beings. Daleks have a famous dislike for the unlike, and that is exactly the reason why Marcus orchestrated distrust and hatred toward Susan, whom he suspects is an alien.
There are times when the narration stopped the flow of the action, and I wondered why it was needed when often dialogue from the characters would have conveyed what was going on.
More excellent sound design and music from Toby Hrycek-Robinson, who really excels in creating fictional aural landscapes.
Wistful, low-key stuff then, solidly told and very well played.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 20:21:19 GMT
There are times when the narration stopped the flow of the action, and I wondered why it was needed when often dialogue from the characters would have conveyed what was going on. I think the original intention for the "Early Adventures" range was for the stories to be like the 'Missing Episode' soundtracks that the BBC used to release, so Doctor Who stories being told by narration and full-cast drama is the range format.
Sometimes the narration does stop the flow but I do like the format. The EA stories are generally high quality so it's a format that works for me. (I did love the old BBC 'Missing Episode' CD's with linking narration though so that probably helps.)
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