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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 16:52:03 GMT
I thought the Yeti were copyright Haisman estate. Most (intended to be) one-off monsters do belong to the relevant creators rather than the BBC and there were rumours Moffat wanted them in the Snowmen, but couldn't get clearances. He’s meaning the non-robot yetis. Good point, well made.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2021 13:33:29 GMT
I adored this one. I'll preface this post with the understanding that I've studied the Tao Te Ching. A text with connections to Buddhist principles and history, so I'll be approaching The Secrets of Det-Sen with that inclination. The first half is almost a mediation on the theology of Tibetan Buddhism. It's quite open and respectful, dealing with a lot of concepts that you would typically find -- to use an Abrahamic equivalent -- in their equivalent of a Sunday school. We learn about dharma and, implicity, Oddiyana faces the practical realities of the Four Noble Truths. The struggle against human suffering. Something a Buddhist on his journey would face, albeit not perhaps as literally as in his case. The details and conversations here speak true. This is an excellent representation of those beliefs. Quite lovely. Speaking of which, can we talk about just how fabulous the First Doctor is here? His characterisation is a quiet marvel. You can see the little nods in how the monastery is run and the parallels that we, as the audience, can draw with the Capitol on Gallifrey. It's almost like being a stranger in a familiar land. His discussion with Dodo about how Buddhist explanations for fundamental universal forces would be transferred to science is quite genuine. I know a quantum physicist who thinks along similar lines. The ease with which the Doctor assumes his role in the monastery, his bartitsu fight with the knife-wielding bandit (the Conan-Doyle touch feels quite David Whitaker), even the stern glare he gives to one of the guards until the man turns his head in shame... It's a story littered with excellent moments. Peter Purves has even managed to emulate a good approximation of Hartnell's laugh. That's terribly difficult to do, but he's got that impish twinkle. Well done to the cast as a whole. My favourite, among a strong group of guests, has to be Paul Courtenay Hyu as Oddiyana. Well done to the cast as a whole. My favourite being Paul Courtenay Hyu for Oddiyana. A character who goes through so much development over the course of the story in such implicit detail. It’s easy to see why he would be known by the titles and reputation that he has. He has that sense of a true Enlightened spirit. Hats off to Lauren Cornelius, as well, for doing something quite extraordinary. Listening to this even the first time, I feel like I’ve known Dodo Chaplet, this Dodo Chaplet, for ages. This is the traveller who I read about in the novelisation of The Ark, whose spitting image Steven met in Paris. She feels so natural with the Doctor and Steven, and it’s great that her first outing provides such strong material (and strong connection to her travelling companions) for her. And were we right about the Yeti, chaps? I'd say we were a goodly 60-75% correct. Near enough, with just enough variation to make it interesting. The Secrets of Det-Sen is a story that defies expectation. A lot more historical than pseudohistorical and no less enjoyable for it. It put me to mind of if a John Lucarotti script had been script-edited by Gerry Davis. An interesting new tone for a less well-trod era of the show. A bit talky, a bit more like the classic radio dramas of its era, but a good story. Well told. I love my action, I love my adventure, but I had a lot of time for this slow-burn mystery. Soaked in the light of butter lamps, shining against a snowblind Tibet... The first of what will hopefully be another excellent run -- what's not to love? A thumbs up from this First Doctor fan here.
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Post by Timelord007 on Sept 3, 2021 15:17:21 GMT
I adored this one. I'll preface this post with the understanding that I've studied the Tao Te Ching. A text with connections to Buddhist principles and history, so I'll be approaching The Secrets of Det-Sen with that inclination. The first half is almost a mediation on the theology of Tibetan Buddhism. It's quite open and respectful, dealing with a lot of concepts that you would typically find -- to use an Abrahamic equivalent -- in their equivalent of a Sunday school. We learn about dharma and, implicity, Oddiyana faces the practical realities of the Four Noble Truths. The struggle against human suffering. Something a Buddhist on his journey would face, albeit not perhaps as literally as in his case. The details and conversations here speak true. This is an excellent representation of those beliefs. Quite lovely. Speaking of which, can we talk about just how fabulous the First Doctor is here? His characterisation is a quiet marvel. You can see the little nods in how the monastery is run and the parallels that we, as the audience, can draw with the Capitol on Gallifrey. It's almost like being a stranger in a familiar land. His discussion with Dodo about how Buddhist explanations for fundamental universal forces would be transferred to science is quite genuine. I know a quantum physicist who thinks along similar lines. The ease with which the Doctor assumes his role in the monastery, his bartitsu fight with the knife-wielding bandit (the Conan-Doyle touch feels quite David Whitaker), even the stern glare he gives to one of the guards until the man turns his head in shame... It's a story littered with excellent moments. Peter Purves has even managed to emulate a good approximation of Hartnell's laugh. That's terribly difficult to do, but he's got that impish twinkle. Well done to the cast as a whole. My favourite, among a strong group of guests, has to be Paul Courtenay Hyu as Oddiyana. Well done to the cast as a whole. My favourite being Paul Courtenay Hyu for Oddiyana. A character who goes through so much development over the course of the story in such implicit detail. It’s easy to see why he would be known by the titles and reputation that he has. He has that sense of a true Enlightened spirit. Hats off to Lauren Cornelius, as well, for doing something quite extraordinary. Listening to this even the first time, I feel like I’ve known Dodo Chaplet, this Dodo Chaplet, for ages. This is the traveller who I read about in the novelisation of The Ark, whose spitting image Steven met in Paris. She feels so natural with the Doctor and Steven, and it’s great that her first outing provides such strong material (and strong connection to her travelling companions) for her. And were we right about the Yeti, chaps? I'd say we were a goodly 60-75% correct. Near enough, with just enough variation to make it interesting. The Secrets of Det-Sen is a story that defies expectation. A lot more historical than pseudohistorical and no less enjoyable for it. It put me to mind of if a John Lucarotti script had been script-edited by Gerry Davis. An interesting new tone for a less well-trod era of the show. A bit talky, a bit more like the classic radio dramas of its era, but a good story. Well told. I love my action, I love my adventure, but I had a lot of time for this slow-burn mystery. Soaked in the light of butter lamps, shining against a snowblind Tibet... The first of what will hopefully be another excellent run -- what's not to love? A thumbs up from this First Doctor fan here. Awesome review my friend very well written.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2021 23:00:47 GMT
I adored this one. I'll preface this post with the understanding that I've studied the Tao Te Ching. A text with connections to Buddhist principles and history, so I'll be approaching The Secrets of Det-Sen with that inclination. The first half is almost a mediation on the theology of Tibetan Buddhism. It's quite open and respectful, dealing with a lot of concepts that you would typically find -- to use an Abrahamic equivalent -- in their equivalent of a Sunday school. We learn about dharma and, implicity, Oddiyana faces the practical realities of the Four Noble Truths. The struggle against human suffering. Something a Buddhist on his journey would face, albeit not perhaps as literally as in his case. The details and conversations here speak true. This is an excellent representation of those beliefs. Quite lovely. Speaking of which, can we talk about just how fabulous the First Doctor is here? His characterisation is a quiet marvel. You can see the little nods in how the monastery is run and the parallels that we, as the audience, can draw with the Capitol on Gallifrey. It's almost like being a stranger in a familiar land. His discussion with Dodo about how Buddhist explanations for fundamental universal forces would be transferred to science is quite genuine. I know a quantum physicist who thinks along similar lines. The ease with which the Doctor assumes his role in the monastery, his bartitsu fight with the knife-wielding bandit (the Conan-Doyle touch feels quite David Whitaker), even the stern glare he gives to one of the guards until the man turns his head in shame... It's a story littered with excellent moments. Peter Purves has even managed to emulate a good approximation of Hartnell's laugh. That's terribly difficult to do, but he's got that impish twinkle. Well done to the cast as a whole. My favourite, among a strong group of guests, has to be Paul Courtenay Hyu as Oddiyana. A character who goes through so much development over the course of the story in such implicit detail. It’s easy to see why he would be known by the titles and reputation that he has. He has that sense of a true Enlightened spirit. Hats off to Lauren Cornelius, as well, for doing something quite extraordinary. Listening to this even the first time, I feel like I’ve known Dodo Chaplet, this Dodo Chaplet, for ages. This is the traveller who I read about in the novelisation of The Ark, whose spitting image Steven met in Paris. She feels so natural with the Doctor and Steven, and it’s great that her first outing provides such strong material (and strong connection to her travelling companions) for her. And were we right about the Yeti, chaps? I'd say we were a goodly 60-75% correct. Near enough, with just enough variation to make it interesting. The Secrets of Det-Sen is a story that defies expectation. A lot more historical than pseudohistorical and no less enjoyable for it. It put me to mind of if a John Lucarotti script had been script-edited by Gerry Davis. An interesting new tone for a less well-trod era of the show. A bit talky, a bit more like the classic radio dramas of its era, but a good story. Well told. I love my action, I love my adventure, but I had a lot of time for this slow-burn mystery. Soaked in the light of butter lamps, shining against a snowblind Tibet... The first of what will hopefully be another excellent run -- what's not to love? A thumbs up from this First Doctor fan here. Awesome review my friend very well written. Cheers, Timelord. Knowing your experience that means a lot. Definitely a story to listen to if you're in a meditative mood. The First Doctor and Oddiyana is rapidly shaping up to be the equivalent of the Fifth Doctor and Richard Mace from The Visitation for me. A lot of fun.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Sept 3, 2021 23:16:24 GMT
I adored this one. I'll preface this post with the understanding that I've studied the Tao Te Ching. A text with connections to Buddhist principles and history, so I'll be approaching The Secrets of Det-Sen with that inclination. The first half is almost a mediation on the theology of Tibetan Buddhism. It's quite open and respectful, dealing with a lot of concepts that you would typically find -- to use an Abrahamic equivalent -- in their equivalent of a Sunday school. We learn about dharma and, implicity, Oddiyana faces the practical realities of the Four Noble Truths. The struggle against human suffering. Something a Buddhist on his journey would face, albeit not perhaps as literally as in his case. The details and conversations here speak true. This is an excellent representation of those beliefs. Quite lovely. Speaking of which, can we talk about just how fabulous the First Doctor is here? His characterisation is a quiet marvel. You can see the little nods in how the monastery is run and the parallels that we, as the audience, can draw with the Capitol on Gallifrey. It's almost like being a stranger in a familiar land. His discussion with Dodo about how Buddhist explanations for fundamental universal forces would be transferred to science is quite genuine. I know a quantum physicist who thinks along similar lines. The ease with which the Doctor assumes his role in the monastery, his bartitsu fight with the knife-wielding bandit (the Conan-Doyle touch feels quite David Whitaker), even the stern glare he gives to one of the guards until the man turns his head in shame... It's a story littered with excellent moments. Peter Purves has even managed to emulate a good approximation of Hartnell's laugh. That's terribly difficult to do, but he's got that impish twinkle. Well done to the cast as a whole. My favourite, among a strong group of guests, has to be Paul Courtenay Hyu as Oddiyana. Well done to the cast as a whole. My favourite being Paul Courtenay Hyu for Oddiyana. A character who goes through so much development over the course of the story in such implicit detail. It’s easy to see why he would be known by the titles and reputation that he has. He has that sense of a true Enlightened spirit. Hats off to Lauren Cornelius, as well, for doing something quite extraordinary. Listening to this even the first time, I feel like I’ve known Dodo Chaplet, this Dodo Chaplet, for ages. This is the traveller who I read about in the novelisation of The Ark, whose spitting image Steven met in Paris. She feels so natural with the Doctor and Steven, and it’s great that her first outing provides such strong material (and strong connection to her travelling companions) for her. And were we right about the Yeti, chaps? I'd say we were a goodly 60-75% correct. Near enough, with just enough variation to make it interesting. The Secrets of Det-Sen is a story that defies expectation. A lot more historical than pseudohistorical and no less enjoyable for it. It put me to mind of if a John Lucarotti script had been script-edited by Gerry Davis. An interesting new tone for a less well-trod era of the show. A bit talky, a bit more like the classic radio dramas of its era, but a good story. Well told. I love my action, I love my adventure, but I had a lot of time for this slow-burn mystery. Soaked in the light of butter lamps, shining against a snowblind Tibet... The first of what will hopefully be another excellent run -- what's not to love? A thumbs up from this First Doctor fan here. Wel, you’ve convinced me to buy it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2021 23:48:56 GMT
I adored this one. I'll preface this post with the understanding that I've studied the Tao Te Ching. A text with connections to Buddhist principles and history, so I'll be approaching The Secrets of Det-Sen with that inclination. The first half is almost a mediation on the theology of Tibetan Buddhism. It's quite open and respectful, dealing with a lot of concepts that you would typically find -- to use an Abrahamic equivalent -- in their equivalent of a Sunday school. We learn about dharma and, implicity, Oddiyana faces the practical realities of the Four Noble Truths. The struggle against human suffering. Something a Buddhist on his journey would face, albeit not perhaps as literally as in his case. The details and conversations here speak true. This is an excellent representation of those beliefs. Quite lovely. Speaking of which, can we talk about just how fabulous the First Doctor is here? His characterisation is a quiet marvel. You can see the little nods in how the monastery is run and the parallels that we, as the audience, can draw with the Capitol on Gallifrey. It's almost like being a stranger in a familiar land. His discussion with Dodo about how Buddhist explanations for fundamental universal forces would be transferred to science is quite genuine. I know a quantum physicist who thinks along similar lines. The ease with which the Doctor assumes his role in the monastery, his bartitsu fight with the knife-wielding bandit (the Conan-Doyle touch feels quite David Whitaker), even the stern glare he gives to one of the guards until the man turns his head in shame... It's a story littered with excellent moments. Peter Purves has even managed to emulate a good approximation of Hartnell's laugh. That's terribly difficult to do, but he's got that impish twinkle. Well done to the cast as a whole. My favourite, among a strong group of guests, has to be Paul Courtenay Hyu as Oddiyana. Well done to the cast as a whole. My favourite being Paul Courtenay Hyu for Oddiyana. A character who goes through so much development over the course of the story in such implicit detail. It’s easy to see why he would be known by the titles and reputation that he has. He has that sense of a true Enlightened spirit. Hats off to Lauren Cornelius, as well, for doing something quite extraordinary. Listening to this even the first time, I feel like I’ve known Dodo Chaplet, this Dodo Chaplet, for ages. This is the traveller who I read about in the novelisation of The Ark, whose spitting image Steven met in Paris. She feels so natural with the Doctor and Steven, and it’s great that her first outing provides such strong material (and strong connection to her travelling companions) for her. And were we right about the Yeti, chaps? I'd say we were a goodly 60-75% correct. Near enough, with just enough variation to make it interesting. The Secrets of Det-Sen is a story that defies expectation. A lot more historical than pseudohistorical and no less enjoyable for it. It put me to mind of if a John Lucarotti script had been script-edited by Gerry Davis. An interesting new tone for a less well-trod era of the show. A bit talky, a bit more like the classic radio dramas of its era, but a good story. Well told. I love my action, I love my adventure, but I had a lot of time for this slow-burn mystery. Soaked in the light of butter lamps, shining against a snowblind Tibet... The first of what will hopefully be another excellent run -- what's not to love? A thumbs up from this First Doctor fan here. Wel, you’ve convinced me to buy it. Enjoy. One for a quiet day in a peaceful part of the house.
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Post by Timelord007 on Sept 5, 2021 9:10:30 GMT
Having listened to this last night i must admit feeling somewhat disappointed by this audio drama, there's no real threat & the first two episodes seem to drag not advancing the plot.
Maybe it's just my taste as i like intrigue & mystery to build up tension as to be excited to hear the next episode however this audio felt overlong & had a lot of talky moments & not enough drama or action.
I actually prefered After The Daleks which i actually didn't think I'd enjoy being a non Doctor adventure.
Sadly a 2/5 from me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2021 23:21:37 GMT
Having listened to this last night i must admit feeling somewhat disappointed by this audio drama, there's no real threat & the first two episodes seem to drag not advancing the plot. Maybe it's just my taste as i like intrigue & mystery to build up tension as to be excited to hear the next episode however this audio felt overlong & had a lot of talky moments & not enough drama or action. I actually prefered After The Daleks which i actually didn't think I'd enjoy being a non Doctor adventure. Sadly a 2/5 from me. Hey, not to worry, my friend. It's only one story and, reading back through the thread, it looks to have been quite a polarising one. Once it's finished downloading on the app, I'm onto After the Daleks next.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 17:48:47 GMT
Well i really enjoyed this release .What you actually expect doesn’t come into it ,which is pleasing in a way . Lauren as Dodo works for me and i guess i love Peters narration and take on the Doctor too.So i welcome more adventures with her inclusion .Its good to see all the eras basically covered.It could be old age hahaha but i dont need all guns blazing and super fast editing and cuts.
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Post by grinch on Jan 16, 2022 16:13:43 GMT
So, what was the significance of the futuristic harness the Yeti were wearing on front cover then? Maybe I just wasn’t listening but I don’t think it’s ever mentioned or brought up at all.
Is was this just a case of deliberate misdirection on the part of Big Finish?
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Post by dorney on Jan 17, 2022 13:05:01 GMT
So, what was the significance of the futuristic harness the Yeti were wearing on front cover then? Maybe I just wasn’t listening but I don’t think it’s ever mentioned or brought up at all. Is was this just a case of deliberate misdirection on the part of Big Finish? Can’t be certain but I think Andy may have wanted the appearance to match something from the LS books.
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