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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 18:48:54 GMT
So, with the unexpected return of the Robin Hood audios today, which haven’t been on sale for many years, it got me wondering. There are many other licenses big finish lost over the years. Do you think any of these have a chance of a comeback like Robin hood?
From the bf website it says these ranges are not available
The Tomorrow People
Sapphire & Steel
Highlander
Stargate SG1 / Stargate Atlantis
2000AD / Judge Dredd
The Sigmund Freud Files
Personally i think the least likely is 2000AD because of the new company producing there own. Sigmund freud is also very unlikely, i can't remember the exact reasons at the time but it seems bf were more of a distributor than a producer. The other 4 i feel are all technically possible though. Couldn’t say which would be the most likely. And Of course none could get brought back, this is all just speculating/hoping.
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Post by grinch on Sept 8, 2021 21:25:33 GMT
To be honest, I don’t think anyone of them will return. Maybe Sapphire and Steel at a push. I think it’s been pretty well established at this point that The Tomorrow People will never come back (More’s the pity) 2000 AD are clearly doing their own thing at the moment with their own audio releases and I’m not sure anyone is really clamouring for Highlander and Stargate. Especially considering how public opinion of the franchise of the former just seemed to get worse and worse over the years.
Feel like these Robin Hood audiobook re releases will probably just end up being a one off unless they have further books planned for the range.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 8, 2021 21:35:40 GMT
To be honest, I don’t think anyone of them will return. Maybe Sapphire and Steel at a push. I think it’s been pretty well established at this point that The Tomorrow People will never come back (More’s the pity) 2000 AD are clearly doing their own thing at the moment with their own audio releases and I’m not sure anyone is really clamouring for Highlander and Stargate. Especially considering how public opinion of the franchise of the former just seemed to get worse and worse over the years. Feel like these Robin Hood audiobook re releases will probably just end up being a one off unless they have further books planned for the range. I’m pretty sure a reboot of Stargate is in active development, so getting that one back probably isn’t going to happen any time soon. |
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Sept 9, 2021 19:39:29 GMT
For a license to return..
1) the license has to be available
and 2) Big Finish has to believe that the money from future sales justify the cost of the license
I would suspect the Robin Hood License would be fairly cheap as there is probably not much interest in that series any more and nobody needs a license to do stories based directly on the legends
Also a license to rerelease previous releases as download-only may be cheaper than the rights to do new material,
If they did get the Tomorrow People License back they may be able to release the stories they were unable to (if they are sufficiently complete) and maybe resolve the cliff hanger ending. While I hope that could happen only time will tell
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Post by cwm on Sept 9, 2021 20:03:25 GMT
I would suspect the Robin Hood License would be fairly cheap as there is probably not much interest in that series any more and nobody needs a license to do stories based directly on the legends Also a license to rerelease previous releases as download-only may be cheaper than the rights to do new material, I don't think that's how licenses work -- BF could do generic Robin Hood stories based on the original legends any time they like, yes, but they need a license to do anything based specifically on the 2006-09 series. (I also think that the license allows them to release stories based on the property in general; I don't think there's any distinction between "rereleasing previous stories" and "releasing new stories", they've just got a license to release stories based on this property, full stop.) |
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Sept 9, 2021 21:35:30 GMT
I would suspect the Robin Hood License would be fairly cheap as there is probably not much interest in that series any more and nobody needs a license to do stories based directly on the legends Also a license to rerelease previous releases as download-only may be cheaper than the rights to do new material, I don't think that's how licenses work -- BF could do generic Robin Hood stories based on the original legends any time they like, yes, but they need a license to do anything based specifically on the 2006-09 series. (I also think that the license allows them to release stories based on the property in general; I don't think there's any distinction between "rereleasing previous stories" and "releasing new stories", they've just got a license to release stories based on this property, full stop.) I think there is some confusion/misunderstanding here I am suggesting that it is possible that the license is less valuable and thus maybe less expensive because people can do generic Robin Hood stories based directly on the legends whereas they would have difficulty doing similar with a license based on completely original ideas (and trying to get past legal restrictions by creating something similar is a dubious practice which Big Finish would not engage in). Of course, they have to pay to sell stories directly based on the TV series, but interest in that TV series is probably much less than it was 12 years ago so the value of the license would have decreased. It would probably have fallen further if there had been another (more or equally popular) series based on the legends since then. |
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Sept 9, 2021 21:38:56 GMT
Do a Robin Hood spin-off with the Robin Hood characters from the 12th Doctor episode.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 21:53:36 GMT
If they did get the Tomorrow People License back they may be able to release the stories they were unable to (if they are sufficiently complete) and maybe resolve the cliff hanger ending. While I hope that could happen only time will tell 6.1 Saving the World was completed, 6.2 Talking to God has one episode finished. I haven't heard anything of any other S6 stories, but as so much time has passed I'd say Big Finish would reboot the range if they got The Tomorrow People licence back now, as opposed to carrying on where they left off.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 21:57:09 GMT
To be honest, I don’t think anyone of them will return. Maybe Sapphire and Steel at a push. I think it’s been pretty well established at this point that The Tomorrow People will never come back (More’s the pity) 2000 AD are clearly doing their own thing at the moment with their own audio releases and I’m not sure anyone is really clamouring for Highlander and Stargate. Especially considering how public opinion of the franchise of the former just seemed to get worse and worse over the years. Feel like these Robin Hood audiobook re releases will probably just end up being a one off unless they have further books planned for the range. Counter point - was anyone clamouring for Robin Hood to come back either i mean im excited but I would be lying if i told you i remembered them up until this week  I guess this is a cheaper Licence than the others maybe which made this possible but also i feel something like highlander probs would turn a profit. I mean for bf all they have to do upon reacquiring the licence is out all the audios in a bundle and sell them, not suggesting they make new ones from any of the series as yeah i feel thats unlikely. I suppose the question is why now but i feel the market has shifted to download enough to make these bundles profitable enough. Maybes robin hood is a tester to see? I sure hope some of these will he accessible, i hate lost media and whilst these aren’t lost, they could probs be found in about five minutes, that isn’t accessible or something most people wanna do so its nice to see robin hood at the very least as it means people can experience these in a legit way again |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2021 5:51:53 GMT
For me personally i would love the Sapphire and Steel rerelease none of the rest interest me and Robin Hood i never saw this tv version only the Michael Praed Jason Connery version9getting old yep)
I think it is sad though that they cannot sell what they have produced when they lose the license but hey the politics of it all
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Post by mbt66 on Oct 24, 2021 10:12:36 GMT
Pathfinder Legends
It’s not a lost license, just dormant, but I really hope it returns.
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Post by agentten on Jan 9, 2022 1:11:16 GMT
Personally hoping for returns of Highlander (with Christopher Lambert this time) and 2000AD/Judge Dredd.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jan 9, 2022 10:30:25 GMT
Rebellion are making their own and so this is definitely the least likely candidate for a return (at least, of the properties whose audios were developed by BF themselves).
"The Tomorrow People" and "Sapphire & Steel"... I know at least one set of rights-holders have been hostile, but unless something else happens with these properties I should think they'll return eventually. "Highlander", I should think was in a similar position.
I doubt that BF will go for either "Stargate" (fanbase too troublesome) or "The Sigmund Freud Files" (licensed from somebody else and probably not much of a continuing market).
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