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Post by Digi on Sept 24, 2021 16:53:21 GMT
So we're having a nice broad discussion over in another thread about the news, but let's drill down into one specific: the 60th anniversary special!
Russell was not involved in the last big anniversary special so it's hard to predict where he might go with this one, but what do we think he'll do? What do we want him to do?
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Sept 24, 2021 17:01:33 GMT
I can definitely see him bringing back some classic companions. Look at Death of the Doctor with both Sarah Jane & Jo Grant. That's one of the few positives I can take from this announcement, he loves the companions so a multi-companion adventure rather than multi-doctor adventure may be on the cards & I'd really enjoy that.
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Post by sherlock on Sept 24, 2021 17:04:22 GMT
One question I have is the announcement gives no indication of anything between the centenary special and the anniversary, only future series after it. So does that mean a new Doctor debuting in the anniversary special?
As to what I want...oh I dunno. A multi-Doctor story feels possible but it may well just be Tennant able to be lured back. Eccleston almost certainly not, Smith’s unlikely, Capaldi’s clearly sceptical (but maybe persuadable) and Whittaker can’t really reappear the episode after she left. But honestly after years of multi-Doctor stories, I’m not even sure how much I need another. Simply don’t know what I want, just something that honours the show’s history in an entertaining way.
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Post by timegirl on Sept 24, 2021 17:15:03 GMT
The only thing I care about is if RTD can convince Capaldi (and Jenna Coleman if possible) to come back!🤞 if anyone can do it I bet RTD can! I bet if RTD just shows Peter that his participation would be meaningful and needed he would change his mind and do it!🤔😊
As long as we get 12 (and possibly Clara) back I’m happy, I wouldn’t even care what the plot was.
Oh and maybe some romantic moments between 12 and Clara if we manage to get both back! They could have kissed out of their timeline and not have remembered🤔😉 Sidenote; I don’t know why but part of me always wondered if the reveal of what happened between them in the Cloisters would occur in the 60th, if at all.
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Post by Digi on Sept 24, 2021 17:27:28 GMT
Crazy idea: don't have a big anniversary special be the first adventure of a new Doctor. End Jodie's era with her regenerating into the next Doctor, then for the 60th sidestep into a multi-Doc adventure with classic Doctors, then for the first episode of series 14 pick up back from the end of the Jodie era.
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Post by timegirl on Sept 24, 2021 17:30:39 GMT
Crazy idea: don't have a big anniversary special be the first adventure of a new Doctor. End Jodie's era with her regenerating into the next Doctor, then for the 60th sidestep into a multi-Doc adventure with classic Doctors, then for the first episode of series 14 pick up back from the end of the Jodie era. This except multi-Doc special with Classic AND modern Doctors (as long as this includes 12)🤔😊
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 17:32:23 GMT
So we're having a nice broad discussion over in another thread about the news, but let's drill down into one specific: the 60th anniversary special! Russell was not involved in the last big anniversary special so it's hard to predict where he might go with this one, but what do we think he'll do? What do we want him to do? We've still got a season and the specials left for Jodie. I think much depends on what happens there as to what I'd want in the 60th. If it is the debut of a new Doctor then the tradition of a multi-Doc story would probably be a bad idea as Tennant or whomever could overshadow the new person. If that was the plan, I'd debut the new Doctor at the end of the ep. Personally I'd prefer RTD use the ep to establish whatever status quo he wants going forward. Be that Gallifrey still gone (bit old hat), or a new Doctor and companion or whatever. I may not care for his bombast much but he knows spectacle and audiences. I want something that gives Who a better chance of still being on TV for the 70th, by any means neccessary.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Sept 24, 2021 17:40:59 GMT
Oh & get him to convince Jodie to stay for the 60th & let that be her final story. A multi-Doctor story with Jo Martin who continues as 14.
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 24, 2021 18:26:31 GMT
I have to say, I agree with johnhurtdoctor- a multi- COMPANION- story would be great and something truly new. Maybe with only cameos by multiple Doctors? I also agree that presenting the new Doctor in the anniversary might not be the cleverest move. You know what my favorite would be? Beside the idea with the multi-companion story. I would really like a story featuring McGann and Tennant (who is really angry at 8 for his decision to become a warrior). Throw in Jo Martin in a colourful costume and wielding a big gun for good measure. I think they should really go for unusual, unexpected and strange. Everybody expects a huge cast with a line-up of Doctors, but I would keep it small and low key. And keep the new Doctor out of it- just to not overshadow the first appearance. And with RTDs involvement, I am pretty sure they will at least get Tennant back.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Sept 24, 2021 18:30:25 GMT
OK, my guess is that there won't be a multi-Doctor story at all - I doubt either Eccleston or Whittaker would appear, I suspect not Smith or Capaldi, I don't think Tennant would be up for it if it was just him, I'd be surprised if any earlier Doctors were invited. Depending what fallout from the Timeless Chib is necessary, it might just be a big start for Doctor no. 14.
Either that, or Susan and Omega and Paul McGann and the Rani.
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 24, 2021 18:38:36 GMT
OK, my guess is that there won't be a multi-Doctor story at all - I doubt either Eccleston or Whittaker would appear, I suspect not Smith or Capaldi, I don't think Tennant would be up for it if it was just him, I'd be surprised if any earlier Doctors were invited. Depending what fallout from the Timeless Chib is necessary, it might just be a big start for Doctor no. 14. Either that, or Susan and Omega and Paul McGann and the Rani.I would like that one, too.
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Post by Digi on Sept 24, 2021 18:47:06 GMT
I don't think I really want any more Time War stuff in the TV series, but it would be lovely to get Paul McGann and Rakhee Thakrar on screen together.
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Post by stcoop on Sept 24, 2021 18:55:19 GMT
I think it depends on whether there is a series between Jodie's last episode and the 60th Anniversary Special or not in terms of what we get. The announcement today is a bit vaguely worded. Saying he's back in time for the 60th Anniversary can be just the day itself or the year in general.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 19:05:36 GMT
OK, my guess is that there won't be a multi-Doctor story at all - I doubt either Eccleston or Whittaker would appear, I suspect not Smith or Capaldi, I don't think Tennant would be up for it if it was just him, I'd be surprised if any earlier Doctors were invited. Depending what fallout from the Timeless Chib is necessary, it might just be a big start for Doctor no. 14. Either that, or Susan and Omega and Paul McGann and the Rani.I would like that one, too. With a side order of Romana please
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Post by timegirl on Sept 24, 2021 19:09:20 GMT
What if we don’t just get one 60th anniversary episode but a whole 60th anniversary celebratory series?! That would give a multi Doctor crossover room to breathe if it was spread out over a whole season perhaps culminating in a massive finale with all the Doctors ( that they can get (especially Capaldi)) That way any past Doctors, companions and villains that show up could each have their moment in the sun.
Sidenote: I bet this approach could get Capaldi on board since he would be assured that he wouldn’t just be squeezed into a few short scenes but instead given a whole showcase with proper room for characterization🤔
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Post by fitzoliverj on Sept 24, 2021 19:14:09 GMT
I would like that one, too. With a side order of Romana please I was joking. I was just chucking together all the old groundless rumours.
What if we don’t just get one 60th anniversary episode but a whole 60th anniversary celebratory series?! That would give a multi Doctor crossover room to breathe if it was spread out over a whole season
Much better idea, but since RTD seems to be sticking around rather than filling-in, I think it's doubtful
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Post by barnabaslives on Sept 24, 2021 20:24:08 GMT
What if we don’t just get one 60th anniversary episode but a whole 60th anniversary celebratory series?! That would give a multi Doctor crossover room to breathe if it was spread out over a whole season perhaps culminating in a massive finale with all the Doctors ( that they can get (especially Capaldi)) That way any past Doctors, companions and villains that show up could each have their moment in the sun. That's such a wonderful idea! It's something the show's never done before, and I don't see what it could hurt to make as big a deal out of the anniversary as possible, especially if BBC is going out on a limb and pouring more into Doctor Who over x number of seasons. Plus I just really like multi-Doctor stories in the first place, the ones we've been lucky enough to have are absolutely priceless!
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Post by timegirl on Sept 24, 2021 20:41:12 GMT
I hope RTD gets the characterization right for writing any characters coming back for the 60th🤔 For example, I have faith in RTD but if he does somehow get Capaldi back (and especially if Coleman is on board too) I will be paying very close attention to how 12 (and hopefully Clara) are characterized. I trust that RTD could write them well but if 12 and Clara were mischaracterized as having a “parental relationship “🤢 I would have difficulty forgiving RTD.
Sidenote: If 12 and Clara ever do come back and are mischaracterized in the writing as having a “father and daughter relationship “🤢 the length of of the angry essay I will write on why that’s a terrible take will be of epic proportions🤔
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Post by Jeedai on Sept 24, 2021 21:28:35 GMT
Here's hoping Ace gets the guest spot that couldn't materialize on The Sarah Jane Adventures.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Sept 24, 2021 21:31:39 GMT
My phone lit up like a Xmas tree about 5 hours ago with messages LOLZ..
"We have normality I repeat we have normality.. Anything you still can't cope with is therefore your own problem"
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