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Post by mark687 on Feb 19, 2022 22:00:08 GMT
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Post by Kestrel on Feb 19, 2022 22:55:12 GMT
Oh, shit. I was excited to see them announce one new boxset... and then I saw they'd announced FOUR. Hot damn.
Kind of confused on the timeline placement... safe to assume the first set, at least, takes place inside the pocket dimension created in 'Day of the Doctor' where basically all of the Dalek and Time Lord forces were sealed away? So, basically, an eternal war confined exclusively to the planet? Sounds fun, but I have a hard time seeing that premise work across four full sets... so maybe it'll go past that, and War Room 4 will conclude with the "end" of Rassilon's reign in 'Hell Bent?'
Well, regardless of how this goes, I'm pretty psyched! Not having Romana will be kind of weird, but it'll be nice seeing Leela take center stage.
Now we just need four new NABS sets announced.
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 19, 2022 23:11:18 GMT
Oh, shit. I was excited to see them announce one new boxset... and then I saw they'd announced FOUR. Hot damn. Kind of confused on the timeline placement... safe to assume the first set, at least, takes place inside the pocket dimension created in 'Day of the Doctor' where basically all of the Dalek and Time Lord forces were sealed away? So, basically, an eternal war confined exclusively to the planet? Sounds fun, but I have a hard time seeing that premise work across four full sets... so maybe it'll go past that, and War Room 4 will conclude with the "end" of Rassilon's reign in 'Hell Bent?' Well, regardless of how this goes, I'm pretty psyched! Not having Romana will be kind of weird, but it'll be nice seeing Leela take center stage. Now we just need four new NABS sets announced. Not sure where you’re getting that from. It’s a continuation from Gallifrey Time War 4. No Romana and Leela is working for Rassilon.
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 19, 2022 23:12:53 GMT
As I said in the Updates thread, I really like the sound of this. It’s much more what I would’ve hoped the Gallifrey Time War run was like. I like all of the cast and it really feels as though this could be the “hub” of the Time War for Big Finish with the other ranges crossing over and naturally encountering one another.
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Post by thelonecenturion on Feb 19, 2022 23:22:05 GMT
As I said in the Updates thread, I really like the sound of this. It’s much more what I would’ve hoped the Gallifrey Time War run was like. I like all of the cast and it really feels as though this could be the “hub” of the Time War for Big Finish with the other ranges crossing over and naturally encountering one another. Yep, and the fact they're only releasing one a year makss this more likely (similar to how UNIT: Nemesis is crossing over with the new Bambera series, the Fourth Doctor/Harry/Naomi series... you get the idea). It's also interesting to note that, although 4 hours long, this first boxset seems to just be one story, rather than 4 separate ones. For one, there's the singular title (and the Gallifrey range always used to name its stories with just one word), and also, the backstage tab on the website says "this story takes place after G:TW4", rather than stor ies. Am I reading too much into it? Perhaps, but it would certainly be an interesting new format experiment.
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Post by constonks on Feb 20, 2022 0:54:04 GMT
I see they've de-regenerated Ollistra as some speculated they might - I wonder if she's been time-scooped from an earlier time or if they erased the events of The Side of the Angels...
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Post by Kestrel on Feb 20, 2022 2:51:27 GMT
Given the pricing, ya'll think it's safe to assume these'll be 4 stories each? Not sure where you’re getting that from. It’s a continuation from Gallifrey Time War 4. No Romana and Leela is working for Rassilon. My assumption is that, if this were just a continuation of GTW, then they'd still be calling it GTW. Since we know the Time Lords got locked away with the Daleks in DotD, it seems a safe assumption that this range could explore that era as well. "Stuck on Gallifrey with Rassilon" is a big period of time, most of which is placed after DotD. And also consider how how most of GTW is supposed to take place at the very end of the war.
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Post by theillusiveman on Feb 20, 2022 2:53:30 GMT
I am curious if Romana will make a surprise return In boxsets 3 or 4 potentially either played by Lalla Ward or A new incarnation
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Post by Kestrel on Feb 20, 2022 3:03:51 GMT
I am curious if Romana will make a surprise return In boxsets 3 or 4 potentially either played by Lalla Ward or A new incarnation Probably? I think it's pretty inevitable. Hell, I figure it's only a matter of time before Romana shows up on the TV show, too. The real question is whether or not Big Finish would want to recast Romana on their own. They typically don't do that, but I guess giving David Bradley the boot technically counts as precedent, if you squint.
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Post by theillusiveman on Feb 20, 2022 3:19:25 GMT
At the gallifrey convention , they said that the Carolyn Pickles incarnation of Ollistra has been brought into the Time War while the Jacqueline Pierce version is fighting the war off "camera" due to Pierce's passing
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 20, 2022 7:20:48 GMT
Given the pricing, ya'll think it's safe to assume these'll be 4 stories each? Not sure where you’re getting that from. It’s a continuation from Gallifrey Time War 4. No Romana and Leela is working for Rassilon. My assumption is that, if this were just a continuation of GTW, then they'd still be calling it GTW. Since we know the Time Lords got locked away with the Daleks in DotD, it seems a safe assumption that this range could explore that era as well. "Stuck on Gallifrey with Rassilon" is a big period of time, most of which is placed after DotD. And also consider how how most of GTW is supposed to take place at the very end of the war. It’s not called Gallifrey Time War because it’s the end of that strand of the story. Leela is the only Gallifrey regular that is carrying over and given how final the last TW set was, it makes sense to go off in a different direction. If it wasn’t for Leela’s presence this would be a spin-off of a spin-off really. I think you’re looking into that particular quote about Rassilon too much (which, incidentally, isn’t anywhere to be seen in the article or synopsis!) and avoiding what it’s actually saying. I think, if anything, the only time this War Room range will touch The Day of the Doctor will be in its finale where the Doctors intervene to put Gallifrey in the pocket dimension. Come to think of it, that’d be pretty epic if they took inspiration from The Day of the Doctor novel. And I don’t believe there’s any indication that GTW takes place anywhere near the end of the War. It’s only inferred the Doctor has turned into his War incarnation towards the end of the final set.
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 20, 2022 8:01:18 GMT
As I said in the Updates thread, I really like the sound of this. It’s much more what I would’ve hoped the Gallifrey Time War run was like. I like all of the cast and it really feels as though this could be the “hub” of the Time War for Big Finish with the other ranges crossing over and naturally encountering one another. Yep, and the fact they're only releasing one a year makss this more likely (similar to how UNIT: Nemesis is crossing over with the new Bambera series, the Fourth Doctor/Harry/Naomi series... you get the idea). It's also interesting to note that, although 4 hours long, this first boxset seems to just be one story, rather than 4 separate ones. For one, there's the singular title (and the Gallifrey range always used to name its stories with just one word), and also, the backstage tab on the website says "this story takes place after G:TW4", rather than stor ies. Am I reading too much into it? Perhaps, but it would certainly be an interesting new format experiment. I was also thinking that the long mooted Dalek Empire: Time War set (range?) would make for a parallel with this War Room series. There’s definitely scope for a couple of stories that make for a greater whole and told by both sides. I don’t think we’ve had that before. I think you’re right about this just being one big story. I took the same away after reading the article and product listing, etc. Unusually for a Big Finish announcement this has quite a lot of information attached; it’s only really missing a story trailer and a cover reveal between now and July. One of my criticisms of GTW4 was that the final episode could’ve easily spanned three hours of the set, so a longer opener in War Room would be welcomed.
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Post by sherlock on Feb 20, 2022 10:18:48 GMT
Interesting new direction for the range. Combining all the war leader Time Lords in one range is a logical move and I’m quite tempted.
One thing I do hope is that the final fates of Romana and Narvin actually stay final.
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Post by pawntake on Feb 20, 2022 13:59:16 GMT
1 year between the release of boxset one and two. July 2022/ July 2023 1 year between the release of boxset three and four! Feb 2024/ Feb 2025
You shoud get a far bigger discount on a DL pre-order bundle in my opinion! peanuts on each boxset! whoopee! come-on BF give me some incentive! The last boxset in this bundle is still 3 years away!
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Post by fitzoliverj on Feb 20, 2022 14:03:29 GMT
I have to admit to some disappointment, I thought the video was building up to a Timothy Dalton credit...
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Post by mbt66 on Feb 20, 2022 16:32:47 GMT
I have to admit to some disappointment, I thought the video was building up to a Timothy Dalton credit... I thought the video was building up to a Richard Armitage credit…
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Post by masterdoctor on Feb 20, 2022 17:50:38 GMT
Wasn’t exactly sure initially, but once I read the news release and team behind it, I on board. Heather Challands is already doing great things with the 3DAs, so this and UNIT are in very good hands. Samuel Clemens is a bloody good director and one I’m glad is doing more Who. And the main cast sound great, with Leela taking front stage and The General, Veklin, The Pickles Ollistra and Jarman’s Rasmus. And whether they recast a new Romana, I could see it happening tbh. We are getting an in unbound incarnation in April for Doctor of War, and if the switch over on approval(Chibnall to RTD) I think there would be more leniency.
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Post by masterdoctor on Feb 20, 2022 17:51:56 GMT
Though which Rassilon might show up is a whole other question. Armitage following Time War 4, Dalton as a coup for Big Finish, a new incarnation or a mix?
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Post by grinch on Feb 20, 2022 18:05:09 GMT
My money would be on Armitage reprising his role personally. Although, maybe they could get Dalton. As you said, it would be quite the coup.
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Post by Kestrel on Feb 20, 2022 20:29:16 GMT
IIRC in the TV show they describe Rassilon's resurrection as being something of a desperate move made near the end of the war. This places pretty much all of the GTW range at that far end, and GWR by extension. Granted, I may be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure I remember people discussing this timeline weirdness w/r/t GTW1. The "Stuck on Gallifrey with Rassilon" thing isn't a quote from the press release... its the premise for this set--specifically the Dalek invasion of Gallifrey we see DotD. And the trailer they released literally depicts Daleks invading Gallifrey, so I don't think this is much of a leap. I mean, sure, maybe I'm wrong and all four new GWR sets will just tread water, but it sure as hell seems to me like this series is intended to cover the end of the war. And given that after the events of DotD (up to the events of Hell Bent) the Time Lords are all still stuck with Rassilon on Gallifrey, it doesn't seem unreasonable to suggest that this series could move into the postwar era a bit, too.
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