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There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Apr 21, 2022 23:44:26 GMT
Why does Chibs hate Big Finish so much? There’s another little franchise called Star Trek in which the spin-off media has never been canon. I imagine that Chibnall is like a lot of the rest of us and regards the tv version as the main continuity (although the only continuity that “officially” exists to the production team is what folks can reasonably be expected to remember. Terrance Dicks said something like that in the intro to The Discontinuity Guide) and everything else as “tie-in fiction.” It’s his prerogative: a show that destroyed Atlantis three times can’t be held to a logical timeline.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Apr 21, 2022 23:55:41 GMT
"Schrödinger's Who", it is both simultaneously cannon and non-cannon.
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Post by sherlock on Apr 22, 2022 8:48:18 GMT
Does anyone think there’s a possibility that Chris Chibnall isn’t aware of The Gathering or any BF audios where Ace meets the Doctor? I not sure I can include At Childhoods End in the mix. Probably unaware of The Gathering, but Chibnall should be aware of the book as it came out during his tenure so he’d probably had to okay its basic premise. But said book was also written by Aldred herself, and given she’s in this special she clearly doesn’t mind it being disregarded. So if the literal author is okay with it, I don’t think any fans should get worked up about it.
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Post by thewatcher on Apr 22, 2022 9:10:16 GMT
Does anyone think there’s a possibility that Chris Chibnall isn’t aware of The Gathering or any BF audios where Ace meets the Doctor? I not sure I can include At Childhoods End in the mix. Probably unaware of The Gathering, but Chibnall should be aware of the book as it came out during his tenure so he’d probably had to okay its basic premise. But said book was also written by Aldred herself, and given she’s in this special she clearly doesn’t mind it being disregarded. So if the literal author is okay with it, I don’t think any fans should get worked up about it. yes but we dont know yet as we not seen it maybe Ace and Doctor Who don't meet face to face?
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There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Apr 22, 2022 9:15:31 GMT
Probably unaware of The Gathering, but Chibnall should be aware of the book as it came out during his tenure so he’d probably had to okay its basic premise. But said book was also written by Aldred herself, and given she’s in this special she clearly doesn’t mind it being disregarded. So if the literal author is okay with it, I don’t think any fans should get worked up about it. yes but we dont know yet as we not seen it maybe Ace and Doctor Who don't meet face to face? Nor do we know if it contradicts the book.
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Post by sherlock on Apr 22, 2022 9:32:56 GMT
Probably unaware of The Gathering, but Chibnall should be aware of the book as it came out during his tenure so he’d probably had to okay its basic premise. But said book was also written by Aldred herself, and given she’s in this special she clearly doesn’t mind it being disregarded. So if the literal author is okay with it, I don’t think any fans should get worked up about it. yes but we dont know yet as we not seen it maybe Ace and Doctor Who don't meet face to face? Be a bit bizarre to bring these old companions back and not have them meet the current Doctor. Though that said, Fugitive of the Judoon did do exactly that so not impossible I suppose.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2022 9:33:13 GMT
yes but we dont know yet as we not seen it maybe Ace and Doctor Who don't meet face to face? Not do we know if it contradicts the book. But does it really matter if it does?
The TV show sets the 'canon' everything else slides in somewhere, depending on our own points of view. But as Doctor Who involves time travel, resets, contradictions and yes, even Flux, people who want to fit it all in can find a way to do so. I'm more excited to find out who the 14th Doctor is and see where RTD takes the show from 2023 than be worried about where niche spin-off media 'fits'.
If it all fits, great, if it doesn't <shrug> so what?
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Post by thewatcher on Apr 22, 2022 10:24:03 GMT
yes but we dont know yet as we not seen it maybe Ace and Doctor Who don't meet face to face? Be a bit bizarre to bring these old companions back and not have them meet the current Doctor. Though that said, Fugitive of the Judoon did do exactly that so not impossible I suppose. yes i think/hope they will. but people are making assumptions, maybe they will meet fugitive doctor instead of jodie?
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Post by shallacatop on Apr 22, 2022 10:31:53 GMT
yes but we dont know yet as we not seen it maybe Ace and Doctor Who don't meet face to face? Be a bit bizarre to bring these old companions back and not have them meet the current Doctor. Though that said, Fugitive of the Judoon did do exactly that so not impossible I suppose. I think that was done knowing full well that Jack and the Doctor would meet again and would’ve evolved into something more in Series 13 if it wasn’t for COVID (that was a near miss wasn’t it?!). The Jack scenes for Fugitive were filmed as part of Revolution, I believe. I’ve no doubt Ace and Tegan will meet the Doctor. It’ll be interesting to see how the different story strands are handled and come together.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2022 10:42:30 GMT
Be a bit bizarre to bring these old companions back and not have them meet the current Doctor. Though that said, Fugitive of the Judoon did do exactly that so not impossible I suppose. I think that was done knowing full well that Jack and the Doctor would meet again and would’ve evolved into something more in Series 13 if it wasn’t for COVID (that was a near miss wasn’t it?!). The Jack scenes for Fugitive were filmed as part of Revolution, I believe. I’ve no doubt Ace and Tegan will meet the Doctor. It’ll be interesting to see how the different story strands are handled and come together. Yes, it is now nearly impossible to think they are in it and we will not have a "brave heart, Tegan" from Jodie and The Doctor super-charging a bat for Ace.
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Post by theillusiveman on Apr 23, 2022 10:36:46 GMT
So Latest Rumor is that All The Classic Living Doctors appear in the special apart from Paul McGann
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2022 10:41:15 GMT
So Latest Rumor is that All The Classic Living Doctors appear in the special apart from Paul McGann Chris Eccleston won’t want to do it.
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Post by theillusiveman on Apr 23, 2022 10:43:50 GMT
So Latest Rumor is that All The Classic Living Doctors appear in the special apart from Paul McGann Chris Eccleston won’t want to do it. i know but the rumour meant Classic Doctors (1963-1989) such as Tom, Peter, Colin and Sylvester will appear but McGann wont
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Post by thewatcher on Apr 23, 2022 10:47:05 GMT
So Latest Rumor is that All The Classic Living Doctors appear in the special apart from Paul McGann Where this rumour from?
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Apr 23, 2022 10:47:15 GMT
Chris Eccleston won’t want to do it. i know but the rumour meant Classic Doctors (1963-1989) such as Tom, Peter, Colin and Sylvester will appear but McGann wont Unless Stranded was foreshadowing the TV show's use, not sure how they'd have Colin for one pretty obvious reason unless he's the Curator. Plus, not sure if Tom would realistically be up to the travel and filming nowadays - acting behind a mic at home is one thing, but a major special?
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Post by theillusiveman on Apr 23, 2022 10:50:47 GMT
So Latest Rumor is that All The Classic Living Doctors appear in the special apart from Paul McGann Where this rumour from? Apparently Reddit
The person said it is similar to Doomsday
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Apr 23, 2022 10:53:04 GMT
So Latest Rumor is that All The Classic Living Doctors appear in the special apart from Paul McGann Where this rumour from? The version of the rumour I heard was that it was basically all but Tom Baker, with David Bradley, Peter Davison, Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy and Paul McGann all appearing. And this was from the same source that predicted Tegan and Ace months ago.
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Post by thewatcher on Apr 23, 2022 10:57:30 GMT
i know but the rumour meant Classic Doctors (1963-1989) such as Tom, Peter, Colin and Sylvester will appear but McGann wont Unless Stranded was foreshadowing the TV show's use, not sure how they'd have Colin for one pretty obvious reason unless he's the Curator. Plus, not sure if Tom would realistically be up to the travel and filming nowadays - acting behind a mic at home is one thing, but a major special? If they are then maybe it is just audio? But as the source is reddit I do not think it true.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Apr 23, 2022 11:15:25 GMT
The version of the rumour I heard was that it was basically all but Tom Baker, with David Bradley, Peter Davison, Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy and Paul McGann all appearing. And this was from the same source that predicted Tegan and Ace months ago. Since it's likely the timeless watch will play some kind of role, that doesn't seem entirely implausible then: 13 regenerates, something goes wrong, opens the watch and her past selves give her the strength to become 14. However, then that makes me wonder how - if Colin's there, then will it be some kind of cg de-aging ala the Marvel/Star Wars tech. Stand ins? Will it just be disembodied voices with some kind of image conjured by the regen energy?
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Post by fitzoliverj on Apr 23, 2022 13:13:09 GMT
Twentieth-century Doctors in 2022 balances, I suppose, the rumours for twenty-first century Doctors next year. The rumour *I* saw on Facebook was that the original plan was to feature Captain Jack and Gwen; presumably Ace and the uncharacteristically-violent Tegan are replacements.
Has anybody found the Reddit, have you a link?
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