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Post by masterdoctor on Apr 23, 2022 16:49:16 GMT
With Jo Martin and Sacha Dhawan getting their own series announced today, what do we think are some natural choices regarding stories Bog Finish could tell?
For me, Jerhico, Dan, Yaz and The Doctor are my most wanted, but I could definitely get behind a special run for UNIT folding in Ace and Tegan. Bel and Vinder could be good choices to lead a spin-off, and Graham, Ryan and Grace would be sorely missed if they didn’t show!
Really excited for a new era to begin at Big Finish, and I can’t wait to see what they do next!
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Post by mark687 on Apr 23, 2022 17:04:29 GMT
With Jo Martin and Sacha Dhawan getting their own series announced today, what do we think are some natural choices regarding stories Bog Finish could tell? For me, Jerhico, Dan, Yaz and The Doctor are my most wanted, but I could definitely get behind a special run for UNIT folding in Ace and Tegan. Bel and Vinder could be good choices to lead a spin-off, and Graham, Ryan and Grace would be sorely missed if they didn’t show! Really excited for a new era to begin at Big Finish, and I can’t wait to see what they do next! That "Rumor" is already out I think Kevin McNally's been quoted at a Con last year as saying "he's had a call" EDIT Do you want to do a Mod Thread Merge I don't mind Regards mark687
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Post by ollychops on Apr 23, 2022 17:17:54 GMT
Yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s inevitable that we’ll get a Jericho series announcement soon which I’m looking forward to because he’s my favourite of the Chibnall-era guest characters.
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Post by sanderf90 on Apr 23, 2022 17:21:19 GMT
Could be interesting to see The Grand Serpent's back story at Unit with the Brigadier, Bambera or Kate. If we are getting the Fugitive Doctor we might also get Karvanista. I also quite liked Claire Brown and she could feature if there ever was a Jericho storyline. Hopefully Jodie and her companions are also willing to come back. I think they could really shine at Big Finish.
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Post by masterdoctor on Apr 23, 2022 17:36:43 GMT
The Grand Serpent and Claire Brown are two very good choices as well! And it might be a laugh to have Warren Brown as Jake Willis and Sam Bishop!
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Post by thewatcher on Apr 23, 2022 17:48:04 GMT
Vinder Bel & Karvanista.
Also with these three set up as a team and also Dan, Yaz & Jericho having a couple years of unseen adventures it makes me wonder that the people that complain about Chibnall not knowing about Big Finish might be wrong as it seems like he deliberately set up things for spin offs.
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Post by shallacatop on Apr 23, 2022 17:51:06 GMT
I wouldn’t be against a couple of UNIT sets that utilise the Grand Serpent and Ace / Tegan eras (depending on how the centenary pans out, of course!) once Nemesis is wrapped up. It’d be nice to go back to the standalone UNIT sets and utilise their lead ins to TV stories; we haven’t had one that is immediately post-Day of the Doctor or Death in Heaven, for example.
The Jericho set will be an interesting one as I can’t really picture it if John Bishop & Mandip Gill aren’t involved; what would a set prior to Village of the Angels be like?
I hope Karvanista is in the Fugitive Doctor set; it’s established in Flux and he’s a great character. I quite like the idea of them testing the waters with the Dhawan set by linking it to Spyfall; a bit like Only the Good when Big Finish believed it was a one-off.
Apart from the obvious choice of Jodie and her companions, I can’t think of what else I’d like. Aside from them, Fugitive & Master seem pretty definitive really.
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Post by Digi on Apr 23, 2022 17:58:46 GMT
I'm curious about how some classic companion 'crossovers' may work.... - Susan, not only reacting to her "grandfather"'s gender change but maybe getting a bit cheeky in a way that's never been possible before - Jamie being utterly baffled by the change - Tegan wondering whether she should continue sassing the Doctor in this form...and deciding "absolutely, yes"
Remaining within the era...I'd be interested in adventures with just 13 and Graham. Stories that are somewhat analogous to Sixie/Evelyn in tone but distinctly Graham in its approach to him and how he reacts to the big, wild universe.
I feel like there's an opportunity to correct the show's missteps with Ryan. I thought in the show that when he wasn't be underutilized, he was being utilized poorly, and if there's one thing BF excels at, it's in giving TV characters the due that they never got on screen.
Yaz....sigh. I'm not overly enamoured of the character (and I really don't care for 'companion loves the Doctor' stories) so I'm not in any hurry for more stories with her. But I hesitate on rejecting the idea outright because of BF's reputation for servicing characters well.
I'd be completely open to revisiting any of the Flux "companions."
I don't think there should be any more Jodie/Jo crossover/multi-Doctor stories. It's not that it's been poorly done or anything like that, more that Big Finish has already done the whole 'single main Doctor & alternate version' thing with Sixie and the Valeyard, and I'm not sure that doing so again with 13/Fugitive would be an especially original use of the characters.
I'm open to changing my mind on any or all of these things. They're just the first thoughts that come to mind for me.
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Post by elkawho on Apr 23, 2022 18:07:23 GMT
The biggest problem I have with this announcement is that I don't care about most of the elements of this era. And the few characters that I do care about were inconsistently written and developed. So if there is anything I want from Big Finish getting a hold of them is consistently well-written stories that actually make me feel like I know and care about these characters.
I also find that the few characters I do care about are going to be difficulty to set in solo stories with The Doctor. I would love to see Graham and Dan have solo adventures with The Doctor, if only to see how they would stack up one on one. I do like the idea of having some stories with Karvanista, but the fact that they killed off Jericho so quickly (and for no good reason) really bothers me. I hope that they can find a way to have him be in more stories with our favorite time traveler. What a waste of a good character if we can't. And it would be nice to get to know Grace better as well.
As of now, though, I have no desire to have stories with Yaz or Ryan. And I hate to say it, even the idea of stories with 13 doesn't fill me with anticipation. But if anyone could make me care about these characters, it's the writers at Big Finish.
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Post by stcoop on Apr 23, 2022 18:10:02 GMT
Despite Nick Brigg's comments on the Timeless Child, I always knew financial common sense would win out.
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Post by thewatcher on Apr 23, 2022 18:10:36 GMT
I would love to see Jodie & Mandip return with some adventures just the two of them, like a missing season between end of 12 and start of Flux.
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Post by stcoop on Apr 23, 2022 18:12:10 GMT
The biggest problem I have with this announcement is that I don't care about most of the elements of this era. Here's the cool thing, though. You're not actually obliged to buy everything Big Finish release. It's not mandatory.
If something doesn't interest you, it'll interest someone else and vice versa.
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Post by elkawho on Apr 23, 2022 20:07:38 GMT
The biggest problem I have with this announcement is that I don't care about most of the elements of this era. Here's the cool thing, though. You're not actually obliged to buy everything Big Finish release. It's not mandatory.
If something doesn't interest you, it'll interest someone else and vice versa.
You are quite right. And there's a big possibility that I won't buy it. But this is a thread about what we would like to see BF do with with it, so I decided to comment. Jeez.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Apr 23, 2022 21:38:40 GMT
The biggest problem I have with this announcement is that I don't care about most of the elements of this era. Here's the cool thing, though. You're not actually obliged to buy everything Big Finish release. It's not mandatory.
If something doesn't interest you, it'll interest someone else and vice versa.
I understand that none of us are under any obligation to consume media which holds no interest to me and still I will chime in and say - I have zero interest in this era of the show, the little of it I saw didn't grab me and frankly the quality of the writing has been in a decline for a while.
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Post by Digi on Apr 23, 2022 21:53:22 GMT
Here's the cool thing, though. You're not actually obliged to buy everything Big Finish release. It's not mandatory.
If something doesn't interest you, it'll interest someone else and vice versa.
I understand that none of us are under any obligation to consume media which holds no interest to me and still I will chime in and say - I have zero interest in this era of the show, the little of it I saw didn't grab me and frankly the quality of the writing has been in a decline for a while. Strong agree up till Flux. Series 11 and 12 were very bland, but Flux was terrific.
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Post by elkawho on Apr 23, 2022 23:31:56 GMT
I understand that none of us are under any obligation to consume media which holds no interest to me and still I will chime in and say - I have zero interest in this era of the show, the little of it I saw didn't grab me and frankly the quality of the writing has been in a decline for a while. Strong agree up till Flux. Series 11 and 12 were very bland, but Flux was terrific. I thought parts of Flux were terrific, which left me so frustrated with the parts that really weren't. And I was extremely disappointed with the ending. But the New Year's special was the Chibnall era's best episode.
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Post by theillusiveman on Apr 24, 2022 0:23:57 GMT
Well that was sooner than expected Shame they couldn’t hold off until they actually had the license
Either way I’m not touching any of these audios from that era and while good luck to big finish with the 13th Doctor audios it kinda makes preordering at big finish a gamble if they are going to have characters from the era crossover into classic era or 2005-2017 era audios
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2022 0:32:13 GMT
Strong agree up till Flux. Series 11 and 12 were very bland, but Flux was terrific. I thought parts of Flux were terrific, which left me so frustrated with the parts that really weren't. And I was extremely disappointed with the ending. But the New Year's special was the Chibnall era's best episode. Exactly my review on my YT vid. It was clear, even without it confirmed (which it has been) it was to be a longer season. Aspects like the Serpent and his UNIT battle just came out of nowhere and ended even faster. A few more eps and it would not just have fleshed out that kinda issue but made the whole epic feel much more massive. More expansive. I know there were 100% valid reasons why it was what it was (and Chris said that a re-write would probably have meant no season at all, such was the time pressure) so what he had in mind and what we now have are quite different. Sad part is....its all in there. Just needs expanded. A bit like BFs Dark Universe from the Main Range, or David Lynch's Dune. I still feel Jodies era has been on an upward spiral but I have NO clue how he fits every plate he is spinnin into one ep.
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Post by elkawho on Apr 24, 2022 0:52:03 GMT
I thought parts of Flux were terrific, which left me so frustrated with the parts that really weren't. And I was extremely disappointed with the ending. But the New Year's special was the Chibnall era's best episode. Exactly my review on my YT vid. It was clear, even without it confirmed (which it has been) it was to be a longer season. Aspects like the Serpent and his UNIT battle just came out of nowhere and ended even faster. A few more eps and it would not just have fleshed out that kinda issue but made the whole epic feel much more massive. More expansive. I know there were 100% valid reasons why it was what it was (and Chris said that a re-write would probably have meant no season at all, such was the time pressure) so what he had in mind and what we now have are quite different. Sad part is....its all in there. Just needs expanded. A bit like BFs Dark Universe from the Main Range, or David Lynch's Dune. I still feel Jodies era has been on an upward spiral but I have NO clue how he fits every plate he is spinnin into one ep. But I can't base my opinion on what could have been, only what we have. And what we have is all about potential that was almost reached, but not quite. I was also frustrated that it took over 2 years for Chibnall's era to even approach the kind of stories and character development we should have had much sooner. And even then, there was way too much exposition and companions standing around asking generic questions.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2022 2:20:42 GMT
Exactly my review on my YT vid. It was clear, even without it confirmed (which it has been) it was to be a longer season. Aspects like the Serpent and his UNIT battle just came out of nowhere and ended even faster. A few more eps and it would not just have fleshed out that kinda issue but made the whole epic feel much more massive. More expansive. I know there were 100% valid reasons why it was what it was (and Chris said that a re-write would probably have meant no season at all, such was the time pressure) so what he had in mind and what we now have are quite different. Sad part is....its all in there. Just needs expanded. A bit like BFs Dark Universe from the Main Range, or David Lynch's Dune. I still feel Jodies era has been on an upward spiral but I have NO clue how he fits every plate he is spinnin into one ep. But I can't base my opinion on what could have been, only what we have. And what we have is all about potential that was almost reached, but not quite. I was also frustrated that it took over 2 years for Chibnall's era to even approach the kind of stories and character development we should have had much sooner. And even then, there was way too much exposition and companions standing around asking generic questions. Well, we are kinda making the same point and ending up with the same conclusion (lots of potential, rushed, needed fleshed out), just differing in allowances. Chibnall said it was really this or no Who and there was a chance he and Jodie did not come back at all. I think we can all hopefully - even if it is not our era - say at least its better they have some chance to wrap it all up. I was number one on here every week in S11 saying "who IS this Doctor?" so I am the opposite of a defender of the early part of this era. CC was so safe it just wasted a chunk of their era. COVID restricted Flux plans and its no secret the BBC are not too fussed to say cheerio to the pair of them. Not out of malice but the numbers just are not very good and the show is not part of the zeitgeist now. They are almost certainly counting down the days till RTDs stuff is on screen. Even letting BF announce these sets BEFORE the era ends is very much something they would never, ever have done in previous eras. But as much as I dislike a lot of S11, S12 was better and Flux better once more. The special was terrific at New Year and last week was....umm....a nice sunny day. I think we will look back on the era as a lot of missed potential, some external and unforseen and some just piss-poor work on character and story (Tim Shaw the main villain....Jesus wept) but - BF have redeemed worse. And there is a LOT there to work with. A lot of potential to be fulfilled.
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