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Post by mark687 on Apr 27, 2022 14:02:19 GMT
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Post by bonehead on Apr 27, 2022 14:04:46 GMT
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Post by jacobz40 on Apr 27, 2022 14:17:52 GMT
GORGEOUS cover! Louise Jameson's name dosen't seem to be on it?
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Post by grinch on Apr 27, 2022 14:18:52 GMT
With a special guest appearance from Lance Corporal Jones as the Tivoli...
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Post by The Matt on Apr 27, 2022 14:43:08 GMT
8th Doctor and dream crabs? more Third Doctor adventures?! Colour me there. I have pre-ordered this.
A little tired of yet more Louise Jameson though......
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Post by theillusiveman on Apr 27, 2022 14:50:13 GMT
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Post by eldersensorite on Apr 27, 2022 14:57:41 GMT
I know others have said this before but it didn't really bother me before but for some reason it really hit with this one, I am fed up of covers just being a line up of the cast. I know it's more difficult now one cover has to represent 4 stories but I miss when the covers used to be a visual representation of the story rather than a fancy cast list
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Post by theillusiveman on Apr 27, 2022 14:58:38 GMT
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Post by theillusiveman on Apr 27, 2022 14:59:07 GMT
/photo/1 Textless artwork
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Post by shallacatop on Apr 27, 2022 15:03:45 GMT
I've had a few hours to think about this one since reading it in DWM this morning and it doesn't excite me that much I'm afraid. I'm really fond of the first two volumes, and think they're perfect entry points to Doctor Who at Big Finish, so I'm disappointed to feel this way.
The writers are the same old. This is a perfect range to introduce new talent or lesser used writers. There's no wider impact or implications to this range, so there's no real reason not to take advantage of that.
The choice of monsters feels too left field and I'm struggling to see the potential apart from the shock of the announcement saying they're in it. Moxx (Hoxx) of Balhoon doesn't have enough development in The End of the World to logically use the species; it's too much of a blank slate to the point where you might as well not bother revisiting them in this type of set. The Tivolian's aren't monsters and don't seem to be in this set either, so again, I question why you'd use them. The Dream Crabs have a lot of potential and I like that they're spanning a couple of stories, as the Vashta Nerada did previously. I'd have swapped the other two with Krillitane and Clockwork Droids, though.
I often feel alone in saying this, but I'm getting a bit tired of Colin Baker, to be honest. He's a lovely guy and I buy into the rejuvenation of him thanks to Big Finish, but he's just in so much stuff, doesn't present anything new and he had two perfectly good stories in the previous sets. I'd rather Sylvester had got another go because Harvest of the Sycorax was comfortably the worst story in this range.
I also loved that they were solo Doctor stories, but I appreciate that adding companions is the natural next step and was heavily requested previously. I just wish they were seldom used teams; Adric & Helen might've been nice, for example.
And to finish off I'm not keen on the cover either. Heavily used promotional photos in the obligatory lineup. Those unused drafts are so much better, especially the playing cards!
Sorry to be a downer, it just doesn't excite me as much as the previous two. I think a substitution of monsters and a shakeup of writers and I'd feel differently.
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Post by stcoop on Apr 27, 2022 15:10:11 GMT
It's stretching the definition of "monsters" a lot. And was I the only one who needed Google to remember who the Tivolians were and what a Dream Crap is?
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Post by bonehead on Apr 27, 2022 15:16:26 GMT
It's stretching the definition of "monsters" a lot. And was I the only one who needed Google to remember who the Tivolians were and what a Dream Crap is? I think you were on your own Googling Dream Crap, but other than that I take your point  |
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Post by lidar2 on Apr 27, 2022 15:22:40 GMT
I'm excited by this. The left field monsters actually appeal to me more - somethibg a bit different.
I note the points above about certain individuals being somewhat overused relative to others and, if I'm honest, in an ideal world I would probably have preferred just about any other possible companion for 4 up to and including Ann or Sharon, and I might have preferred Stephen Noonan and Michael Troughton to Col and Paul. But I am not going to let that that spoil my anticipation for this set.
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Post by stcoop on Apr 27, 2022 15:37:04 GMT
I think you were on your own Googling Dream Crap, but other than that I agree
I think that's what they call a Freudian Slip.
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Post by Star Platinum on Apr 27, 2022 15:41:02 GMT
I knew a third set was in the cards, but I’m thrilled to see that there’s a fourth set as well.
Wit any luck the second set will have 1, 2, 5 and 7 in it. That’ll give us perfect attendance for the range.
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Post by mbt66 on Apr 27, 2022 15:57:40 GMT
I am more than happy with the line up and all the stories sound intriguing.
I would have pre-ordered already, but because it has the Fourth Doctor in it I will leave pre-ordering until my birthday as a present to myself.
For several years I have been able to pre-order a new Tom set and it was looking like this year I wouldn’t be able to.
As for the cover, I agree having these various line-ups means the covers are all beginning to look the same.
I really like the playing card draft cover, especially as it celebrates each of the individual stories.
And are individual covers really cost prohibitive? This artist has already done them! Even if they just put them in the CD booklet and use them on the audio player, they deserve to be available to the buyers of the stories.
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Post by shallacatop on Apr 27, 2022 15:58:59 GMT
I knew a third set was in the cards, but I’m thrilled to see that there’s a fourth set as well. Wit any luck the second set will have 1, 2, 5 and 7 in it. That’ll give us perfect attendance for the range. I didn’t spot that there was a fourth set mentioned in the announcement. Great to see, hopefully something a little more to my tastes. |
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Post by stcoop on Apr 27, 2022 16:43:39 GMT
And to finish off I'm not keen on the cover either. Heavily used promotional photos in the obligatory lineup. Those unused drafts are so much better, especially the playing cards! At least it's not another one of those horrible faux-watercolour covers. |
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Post by bonehead on Apr 27, 2022 18:01:03 GMT
I've had a few hours to think about this one since reading it in DWM this morning and it doesn't excite me that much I'm afraid. I'm really fond of the first two volumes, and think they're perfect entry points to Doctor Who at Big Finish, so I'm disappointed to feel this way. The writers are the same old. This is a perfect range to introduce new talent or lesser used writers. There's no wider impact or implications to this range, so there's no real reason not to take advantage of that. The choice of monsters feels too left field and I'm struggling to see the potential apart from the shock of the announcement saying they're in it. Moxx (Hoxx) of Balhoon doesn't have enough development in The End of the World to logically use the species; it's too much of a blank slate to the point where you might as well not bother revisiting them in this type of set. The Tivolian's aren't monsters and don't seem to be in this set either, so again, I question why you'd use them. The Dream Crabs have a lot of potential and I like that they're spanning a couple of stories, as the Vashta Nerada did previously. I'd have swapped the other two with Krillitane and Clockwork Droids, though. I often feel alone in saying this, but I'm getting a bit tired of Colin Baker, to be honest. He's a lovely guy and I buy into the rejuvenation of him thanks to Big Finish, but he's just in so much stuff, doesn't present anything new and he had two perfectly good stories in the previous sets. I'd rather Sylvester had got another go because Harvest of the Sycorax was comfortably the worst story in this range. I also loved that they were solo Doctor stories, but I appreciate that adding companions is the natural next step and was heavily requested previously. I just wish they were seldom used teams; Adric & Helen might've been nice, for example. And to finish off I'm not keen on the cover either. Heavily used promotional photos in the obligatory lineup. Those unused drafts are so much better, especially the playing cards! Sorry to be a downer, it just doesn't excite me as much as the previous two. I think a substitution of monsters and a shakeup of writers and I'd feel differently. I would disagree about the writers. There has been an influx of new writers to BF recently, which is great, spread through other ranges. The results have yeilded mixed-to-enjoyable results in my view. It is nice to go back to some old faithfuls once in a while, whose names have become pretty much synonymous with quality - if the choice of returning monsters is perhaps a little left-field, then at least we know they're in capable hands. Not every release can be a showcase for new talent, and I think BF do pretty well with that on the whole.
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Post by nitronine on Apr 27, 2022 18:02:01 GMT
I've had a few hours to think about this one since reading it in DWM this morning and it doesn't excite me that much I'm afraid. I'm really fond of the first two volumes, and think they're perfect entry points to Doctor Who at Big Finish, so I'm disappointed to feel this way. The writers are the same old. This is a perfect range to introduce new talent or lesser used writers. There's no wider impact or implications to this range, so there's no real reason not to take advantage of that. The choice of monsters feels too left field and I'm struggling to see the potential apart from the shock of the announcement saying they're in it. Moxx (Hoxx) of Balhoon doesn't have enough development in The End of the World to logically use the species; it's too much of a blank slate to the point where you might as well not bother revisiting them in this type of set. The Tivolian's aren't monsters and don't seem to be in this set either, so again, I question why you'd use them. The Dream Crabs have a lot of potential and I like that they're spanning a couple of stories, as the Vashta Nerada did previously. I'd have swapped the other two with Krillitane and Clockwork Droids, though. I often feel alone in saying this, but I'm getting a bit tired of Colin Baker, to be honest. He's a lovely guy and I buy into the rejuvenation of him thanks to Big Finish, but he's just in so much stuff, doesn't present anything new and he had two perfectly good stories in the previous sets. I'd rather Sylvester had got another go because Harvest of the Sycorax was comfortably the worst story in this range. I also loved that they were solo Doctor stories, but I appreciate that adding companions is the natural next step and was heavily requested previously. I just wish they were seldom used teams; Adric & Helen might've been nice, for example. And to finish off I'm not keen on the cover either. Heavily used promotional photos in the obligatory lineup. Those unused drafts are so much better, especially the playing cards! Sorry to be a downer, it just doesn't excite me as much as the previous two. I think a substitution of monsters and a shakeup of writers and I'd feel differently. I agree with you on the writers. Not trying to be rude about them because I'm sure these will be great and I can't think of a single bad story from any of them, but I do also think that ranges like this and Peladon should be where they should be trying out new voices. On the monster front though I have to say I disagree. I like that these are more left field. To me it suggests the writers had a story to tell with those monsters rather than being told "include weeping angels for marketing reasons", although I could be proven wrong I'm still hopeful. Re: Colin, I'm not tired of him per se, I love the 6th Doctor, but I do find myself thinking that he's always given the majority of the experimental stories. Maybe experimental is the wrong word, more so the stories that don't just rely on nostalgia. Just this year alone he's got the start of a new era with a new companion, a story in Peladon, a lost story, 2 unbound box sets, taking over the Curator role in Stranded 4, Out of Time, and now Classic Doctors, New Monsters. While Peter Davison and Sylvester McCoy, one in his 40th anniversary year, each get 2 box sets where they meets various villians from when Nick Briggs was a kid. I wouldn't want to see any of the opportunities taken away from Colin, but I would like to see more for the other classic Doctors. Tennant's got more going on and he's barely available! |
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