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Post by Audio Watchdog on May 3, 2022 21:47:58 GMT
Why do they say just £17.99? That is expensive for audiobook. Actually, no it isn’t. I just lost an hour reading pieces on production costs and average prices of audiobooks. The average 8 to 12 hour audiobook ranges from $25.00 to $30.00 retail. Amazon & Audible can afford to discount things due to volume but in a world where you are paying full retail price, the BF releases come in at the low end of average price. The just you object to would seem to be justified. Kate Orman was a name I never expected to see. And the 2nd Doctor pre-Jamie? Oh yes, please.
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Post by thewatcher on May 3, 2022 22:12:03 GMT
Why do they say just £17.99? That is expensive for audiobook. Actually, no it isn’t. I just lost an hour reading pieces on production costs and average prices of audiobooks. The average 8 to 12 hour audiobook ranges from $25.00 to $30.00 retail. Amazon & Audible can afford to discount things due to volume but in a world where you are paying full retail price, the BF releases come in at the low end of average price. The just you object to would seem to be justified. Kate Orman was a name I never expected to see. And the 2nd Doctor pre-Jamie? Oh yes, please. A lost hour for sure
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Post by thewatcher on May 3, 2022 22:12:46 GMT
By comparing to what I normally pay for an audio book. That is how I am literally justifying this statement. I understand you can disagree but unsure why you curious The BBC Audio versions of the Target novels are also £17.99 and some of those don't even break 4 hours. Also, they don't even need to pay for the manuscript commission, as the books had been published ages ago. The Audio Novels are not overpriced. They are compare to what I pay.
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Post by shutupbanks on May 3, 2022 22:19:24 GMT
The BBC Audio versions of the Target novels are also £17.99 and some of those don't even break 4 hours. Also, they don't even need to pay for the manuscript commission, as the books had been published ages ago. The Audio Novels are not overpriced. They are compare to what I pay. What do you pay?
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Post by Audio Watchdog on May 3, 2022 22:41:49 GMT
Actually, no it isn’t. I just lost an hour reading pieces on production costs and average prices of audiobooks. The average 8 to 12 hour audiobook ranges from $25.00 to $30.00 retail. Amazon & Audible can afford to discount things due to volume but in a world where you are paying full retail price, the BF releases come in at the low end of average price. The just you object to would seem to be justified. Kate Orman was a name I never expected to see. And the 2nd Doctor pre-Jamie? Oh yes, please. A lost hour for sure I showed your comment respect enough to want to know if it was correct or not. That research found that the average 8 to 12 hour audiobook retails for $25.00 to $30.00. So $17.99 is definitely on the low end for a audiobook. You can still feel like it’s high but your feeling isn’t based on what market averages and industry reporting tells us.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2022 23:15:10 GMT
The BBC Audio versions of the Target novels are also £17.99 and some of those don't even break 4 hours. Also, they don't even need to pay for the manuscript commission, as the books had been published ages ago. The Audio Novels are not overpriced. They are compare to what I pay. What are we comparing against? "Cheap" and "value for money" are often two different things. Is this cheap? Well, thats subjective. But is it value, based on the market? Yes.
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Post by theillusiveman on May 4, 2022 1:19:05 GMT
See the cover art fits with this release Looks good
And the bonus that it’s written by Kate Orman Who is one of the best writers in the EDA books (We need more stories from her at big finish)
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Post by Kestrel on May 4, 2022 3:47:53 GMT
No. It literally isn't. It's not too expensive for audio books made without a massive backer, it's no too expensive for BF audios, and it certainly isn't too expensive for audio books with built in music and sound effects. These are literally the only kinds of audio books I can stand to listen to, they are leagues better than normal ones, and they certainly have earned their price point. For what reason should it be a lower price? Seriously, how are you justifying this statement? I'm curious at this point. By comparing to what I normally pay for an audio book. That is how I am literally justifying this statement. I understand you can disagree but unsure why you curious Big Finish in general tends to be expensive, and even then their audiobooks still tend to be closer to standard market prices. Surely we can expect an equivalent-length Doctor Who audiobook to sell more than a Benny audiobook... so it doesn't make a lot of sense for the former to be double the price of the latter. We all love Big Finish, that's why we're here, but there's a lot of apologia around their pricing and I really just do not get that. Especially when their own justifications tend to be pretty shaky.
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Post by thelonecenturion on May 4, 2022 6:31:44 GMT
By comparing to what I normally pay for an audio book. That is how I am literally justifying this statement. I understand you can disagree but unsure why you curious Big Finish in general tends to be expensive, and even then their audiobooks still tend to be closer to standard market prices. Surely we can expect an equivalent-length Doctor Who audiobook to sell more than a Benny audiobook... so it doesn't make a lot of sense for the former to be double the price of the latter. We all love Big Finish, that's why we're here, but there's a lot of apologia around their pricing and I really just do not get that. Especially when their own justifications tend to be pretty shaky. I think different pricing for different ranges is, ultimately, down to business. Doctor Who audiobooks will sell more, so they can charge more and BF will end up with greater profit. That said, there's also the fact that the Benny audiobooks don't have specially composed music or sound effects, and aren't specially commissioned - the books were already out there. The people who need to paid for the Benny audiobooks are the reader, producer, and maybe director (and royalties I assume to the author). For the Audio Novels, they need to pay the author a commission, they need to pay the reader, the director, the script editor, the producer, and the music/sound designer.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on May 4, 2022 12:00:51 GMT
Big Finish in general tends to be expensive, and even then their audiobooks still tend to be closer to standard market prices. Surely we can expect an equivalent-length Doctor Who audiobook to sell more than a Benny audiobook... so it doesn't make a lot of sense for the former to be double the price of the latter. We all love Big Finish, that's why we're here, but there's a lot of apologia around their pricing and I really just do not get that. Especially when their own justifications tend to be pretty shaky. I think different pricing for different ranges is, ultimately, down to business. Doctor Who audiobooks will sell more, so they can charge more and BF will end up with greater profit. That said, there's also the fact that the Benny audiobooks don't have specially composed music or sound effects, and aren't specially commissioned - the books were already out there. The people who need to paid for the Benny audiobooks are the reader, producer, and maybe director (and royalties I assume to the author). For the Audio Novels, they need to pay the author a commission, they need to pay the reader, the director, the script editor, the producer, and the music/sound designer.You are exactly correct.
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Post by ollychops on May 4, 2022 14:21:49 GMT
Now that's the sort of announcement to get me excited. Kate Orman writing a new story for BF? Sign me up. And as much as I'm a bit lukewarm on the style, I do think it works really well for this range.
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Post by Kestrel on May 5, 2022 19:47:41 GMT
Big Finish in general tends to be expensive, and even then their audiobooks still tend to be closer to standard market prices. Surely we can expect an equivalent-length Doctor Who audiobook to sell more than a Benny audiobook... so it doesn't make a lot of sense for the former to be double the price of the latter. We all love Big Finish, that's why we're here, but there's a lot of apologia around their pricing and I really just do not get that. Especially when their own justifications tend to be pretty shaky. I think different pricing for different ranges is, ultimately, down to business. Doctor Who audiobooks will sell more, so they can charge more and BF will end up with greater profit. That said, there's also the fact that the Benny audiobooks don't have specially composed music or sound effects, and aren't specially commissioned - the books were already out there. The people who need to paid for the Benny audiobooks are the reader, producer, and maybe director (and royalties I assume to the author). For the Audio Novels, they need to pay the author a commission, they need to pay the reader, the director, the script editor, the producer, and the music/sound designer. That makes sense. The average MSRP for audiobooks (half what BF is charging here) similarly don't (typically) have much in the way of six works, and are adaptations of previously-published work.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Aug 6, 2022 11:34:37 GMT
BF Twitter reminder to pre-order.
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Post by mark687 on Nov 2, 2022 15:21:04 GMT
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Post by grinch on Nov 2, 2022 15:25:15 GMT
Blimey. That sounds like a lot going on in that story synopsis. Hopefully it won’t feel like it’s too tightly packed when it comes to its release.
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Post by mark687 on Nov 8, 2022 16:03:31 GMT
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jan 5, 2023 9:42:41 GMT
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Post by mark687 on Jan 5, 2023 16:19:33 GMT
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Post by martinw8686 on Jan 9, 2023 0:02:53 GMT
Any reviews online yet, I'm interested but don't want to invest in a 6 hour listen until I've read some reviews?
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jan 9, 2023 3:13:35 GMT
The BBC Audio versions of the Target novels are also £17.99 and some of those don't even break 4 hours. Also, they don't even need to pay for the manuscript commission, as the books had been published ages ago. The Audio Novels are not overpriced. They are compare to what I pay. Are you intimating you’re a pirate? If so, be honest and say so. Then we can be honest and tell you to get stuffed.
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