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Post by grinch on May 20, 2022 10:04:17 GMT
This is something I’ve been wondering about for quite some time now. Considering the Target novelisations and a few of the Missing/Past Adventures have been adapted into audiobooks I wonder why the Virgin New Adventures haven’t been given the same treatment?
Feel like they’d be a real untapped market for that.
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Post by sherlock on May 20, 2022 10:10:42 GMT
The ones reprinted in early 2010s were given audiobooks, Human Nature & Shakedown. Unfortunately it seems when the reprinted releases stopped, so did the audiobooks. Shame really, be nice to have an actually affordable way to experience those stories.
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Post by theillusiveman on May 20, 2022 10:11:33 GMT
I think it’s to do with negotiating the rights to each books with the authors
Besides if the full cast adaptations didn’t sell well I’m sure narrations won’t either
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Post by grinch on May 20, 2022 10:16:21 GMT
The ones reprinted in early 2010s were given audiobooks, Human Nature & Shakedown. Unfortunately it seems when the reprinted releases stopped, so did the audiobooks. Shame really, be nice to have an actually affordable way to experience those stories. I almost wonder if it’s due to the level of violence and graphic imagery that is prevalent in the VNAs. Such imagery which doesn’t exactly befit the image of Who these days. I suppose the pertinent time to produce such audiobooks would have been in the early noughties when Who was still off the air and the BBC wasn’t fussed. |
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Post by grinch on May 20, 2022 10:17:04 GMT
I think it’s to do with negotiating the rights to each books with the authors Besides if the full cast adaptations didn’t sell well I’m sure narrations won’t either That’s also possible. I could imagine trying to get the rights to stories involving Faction Paradox would be a trial in itself. |
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Post by theillusiveman on May 20, 2022 10:19:38 GMT
I think it’s to do with negotiating the rights to each books with the authors Besides if the full cast adaptations didn’t sell well I’m sure narrations won’t either That’s also possible. I could imagine trying to get the rights to stories involving Faction Paradox would be a trial in itself. I would love to see alien bodies adapted by big finish problem is that would require bbc books and Lawrence miles which yeah there is a burnt bridge if I ever saw it |
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Post by lidar2 on May 20, 2022 10:54:57 GMT
The ones reprinted in early 2010s were given audiobooks, Human Nature & Shakedown. Unfortunately it seems when the reprinted releases stopped, so did the audiobooks. Shame really, be nice to have an actually affordable way to experience those stories. I almost wonder if it’s due to the level of violence and graphic imagery that is prevalent in the VNAs. Such imagery which doesn’t exactly befit the image of Who these days. I suppose the pertinent time to produce such audiobooks would have been in the early noughties when Who was still off the air and the BBC wasn’t fussed. A lot of them would require a slight rewrite to bring them "on brand" in terns of sex/ violence / profanity, etc. But once you start down that slippery slope, where do you stop? If you're rewriting them anyway, should the continuity be "fixed" to mesh better with the revived show? Maybe BBC audio will recommence them once they run out of target books to release |
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Post by grinch on May 20, 2022 11:21:09 GMT
I almost wonder if it’s due to the level of violence and graphic imagery that is prevalent in the VNAs. Such imagery which doesn’t exactly befit the image of Who these days. I suppose the pertinent time to produce such audiobooks would have been in the early noughties when Who was still off the air and the BBC wasn’t fussed. A lot of them would require a slight rewrite to bring them "on brand" in terns of sex/ violence / profanity, etc. But once you start down that slippery slope, where do you stop? If you're rewriting them anyway, should the continuity be "fixed" to mesh better with the revived show? Maybe BBC audio will recommence them once they run out of target books to release Oh no, I certainly wouldn’t want them to be rewritten. Whether it’s to your tastes or not, their graphic nature was a key part of the range. In some cases, it played to their strengths. Nightshade was a brilliant novel because of it although I also didn’t mind the toned down version that Big Finish made for their Novel Adaptation range. I can only imagine anyone trying to bring them “on brand” as you said would then feel compelled to insert references to the Time War, the Timeless Child etc. I’d like to think so. Surely it would be easy enough to add a content warning on the front cover? |
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Post by lidar2 on May 20, 2022 11:27:11 GMT
A lot of them would require a slight rewrite to bring them "on brand" in terns of sex/ violence / profanity, etc. But once you start down that slippery slope, where do you stop? If you're rewriting them anyway, should the continuity be "fixed" to mesh better with the revived show? Maybe BBC audio will recommence them once they run out of target books to release Oh no, I certainly wouldn’t want them to be rewritten. Whether it’s to your tastes or not, their graphic nature was a key part of the range. In some cases, it played to their strengths. Nightshade was a brilliant novel because of it although I also didn’t mind the toned down version that Big Finish made for their Novel Adaptation range. I can only imagine anyone trying to bring them “on brand” as you said would then feel compelled to insert references to the Time War, the Timeless Child etc. I’d like to think so. Surely it would be easy enough to add a content warning on the front cover? The BBC position seems to be that anything released under the DW brand has to be suitable for a family audience/ readership. I think a lot of the VNAs would fail that test |
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Post by grinch on May 20, 2022 11:33:32 GMT
Oh no, I certainly wouldn’t want them to be rewritten. Whether it’s to your tastes or not, their graphic nature was a key part of the range. In some cases, it played to their strengths. Nightshade was a brilliant novel because of it although I also didn’t mind the toned down version that Big Finish made for their Novel Adaptation range. I can only imagine anyone trying to bring them “on brand” as you said would then feel compelled to insert references to the Time War, the Timeless Child etc. I’d like to think so. Surely it would be easy enough to add a content warning on the front cover? The BBC position seems to be that anything released under the DW brand has to be suitable for a family audience/ readership. I think a lot of the VNAs would fail that test I can understand the rationale behind that thinking but I do think it’s a damn shame in any case. Overly grim maybe but they were a key part of Doctor Who’s Wilderness Years and it would be nice to have them available in a more accessible form. Ah well, I’m sure some dedicated fan will take up the mantle one of these days. |
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Post by mistfall on May 23, 2022 14:15:31 GMT
Loved the vna novels , eagerly awaited the new one each month.Not a great lover of the edas.sabbath ,amnesia ,trapped on earth again just didn't do it for me.love to see some more big finish adaptions though not likely I know.Blood harvest and goth opera please
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Post by BHTvsTFC on May 23, 2022 17:31:38 GMT
Count me in as a desirer of anything NA related!! BBC EDA Audiobooks would be cool too!
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Post by J.A. Prentice on May 26, 2022 6:30:29 GMT
Oh no, I certainly wouldn’t want them to be rewritten. Whether it’s to your tastes or not, their graphic nature was a key part of the range. In some cases, it played to their strengths. Nightshade was a brilliant novel because of it although I also didn’t mind the toned down version that Big Finish made for their Novel Adaptation range. I can only imagine anyone trying to bring them “on brand” as you said would then feel compelled to insert references to the Time War, the Timeless Child etc. I’d like to think so. Surely it would be easy enough to add a content warning on the front cover? The BBC position seems to be that anything released under the DW brand has to be suitable for a family audience/ readership. I think a lot of the VNAs would fail that test This is certainly true for new releases, but some of the reprints they did (Ten Little Aliens stood out in particular) were definitely not entirely family friendly. They weren’t as bad as some VNAs, but I think most VNAs could be reprinted with only mild alterations and still be considered acceptable. The issues are more rights and sales figures than content, I expect, with a few notable exceptions. |
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