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Post by mark687 on Jun 30, 2022 14:22:28 GMT
Now that's interesting Direct Response of what the Current RRP Prices once most of the recent Who Titles are out of Pre order period
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Post by lidar2 on Jun 30, 2022 15:05:42 GMT
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Post by mark687 on Jun 30, 2022 15:07:13 GMT
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Post by mark687 on Jul 4, 2022 10:37:22 GMT
Just so all the relevent Threads have this Covered BF altered their Postage & International Shipping Prices as of Midnight last night UK Time www.bigfinish.com/pages/v/big-finish-shipping-ratesInterestingly from a UK POV of prices the per item charges have increased but the additional per order charge has decreased. Also I think this is new Customers are responsible for the payment of all customs charges due on deliveries outside the UK. International subscription and bundle postage charges are calculated based on the specific content included and the postage timeline for the items. Plus Charging More for Shipping on Pre Orders, then already released items. Regards mark687
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Post by theillusiveman on Jul 4, 2022 12:34:29 GMT
Looking into the changes
For The Purchase of 1 Boxset ($35.38) Per Order Charge: $8.85 Postage/Packaging: $8.85 Total: $53.08
For The Purchase of 2 Boxsets ($35.38 per boxset) Per Order Charge: $8.85 Postage/Packaging: $17.70 Total: $97.30
For The Purchase of 4 Boxsets Individually( Each Boxset: $35.38) Per Order Charge: $8.85 Postage/Packaging: $35.39 (almost the price of a complete boxset alone) Total: $185.75
Bundle Options:
Example: The Seventh Doctor 2023 CD Bundle: Price: $67.25 Bundle Postage Subtotal: $21.24 Total: $88.94
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Post by theillusiveman on Jul 4, 2022 12:54:32 GMT
Now lets look at what the supposed Rumoured New Price Structure might be using the Call me Master/ Fugitive Doctor Range as an example
For The Purchase of 1 Boxset ($40.69) Per Order Charge: $8.85 Postage/Packaging:$8.85 Total: $58.39
For The Purchase of 2 Boxsets ($40.69 per boxset) Per Order Charge: $8.85 Postage/Packaging: $17.70 Total: $107.92
Bundle Options:
Example: The Fugitive Doctor 1+2 CD Bundle: Price: $77.87 Bundle Postage Subtotal: $21.24 Total: $99.11
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Post by thelonecenturion on Jul 4, 2022 13:33:26 GMT
Also, the newly announced Thunderbirds story is £9.99, for the equivalent of a single-disc CD. Single discs used to be £8.99/£10.99 for download/CD respectively, so I reckon it'll be going up to £9.99/£11.99.
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Post by kipperserver on Jul 4, 2022 20:34:33 GMT
Looks like the essage is "Buy in builk and buy early!"
Except in australia.
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Post by cwm on Jul 4, 2022 21:40:37 GMT
Also, the newly announced Thunderbirds story is £9.99, for the equivalent of a single-disc CD. Single discs used to be £8.99/£10.99 for download/CD respectively, so I reckon it'll be going up to £9.99/£11.99. The Gerry Anderson website has it down as a double CD - 80 mins is *slightly* too long to fit on a single CD
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2022 22:19:06 GMT
The Gerry Anderson website has it down as a double CD - 80 mins is *slightly* too long to fit on a single CD Most CD reproduction companies use 80 mins as their limit for a single CD... technically it might be a few seconds less but "around 80 mins" is now the norm for audio on a CD. (It used to be around 74 minutes, or something.)
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 8, 2022 7:34:45 GMT
The Gerry Anderson website has it down as a double CD - 80 mins is *slightly* too long to fit on a single CD Most CD reproduction companies use 80 mins as their limit for a single CD... technically it might be a few seconds less but "around 80 mins" is now the norm for audio on a CD. (It used to be around 74 minutes, or something.)
It is even a bit more. My German audio series is pressed on CD (and also still on Audio cassette for the purists) and the longest episode of the series is 83 minutes.
But that is most likely pushing the format to the limits.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2022 10:01:12 GMT
My German audio series is pressed on CD [...] and the longest episode of the series is 83 minutes. But that is most likely pushing the format to the limits. Yeah, that's called overburn... I used to put more than 74 minutes of music on to a CD back when CD-R's were a thing... although some CD players didn't recognise those CD's. Technology limits are being pushed all the time though.
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 19, 2022 13:51:37 GMT
Reflecting on this, I think the best business decision for BF in the current economic climate might be to reduce their monthly output rather than rise prices, i.e. going from 6-8 releases a month down to 2-4. I understand that BF's costs are gong up and they need more revenue to cover this, but I suspect the price rises will either backfire on them (reduced sales, more piracy) or else be a bit of a damp squib (very minor rises that don't make much difference at all).
I find it hard to imagine that at least some of BF's customer won't cut back on their BF spending over the next 12 months, if they haven't already. They may buy less, stop buying altogether, do less pre-orders and more waiting for sales, or maybe even move to illegal downloads. And in any business, once regular customers break the habit and stop buying regularly, it is very hard to get them back. That's why I suspect these upcoming price rises may backfire on BF. BF may get a short term boost in October as people pre-order to beat the rises, but over the medium term price rises risk simply accelerating a potential trend towards spending less on BF. By contrast, reducing output would enable them to keep as any of their current customers as possible and, hopefully, a lot of those customers will still be on board in a couple of years' time when the economy settles down and output can increase again.
I know there are issues of wanting to record as much as possible sooner rather than later with some of the older actors, and the fact that future license extensions from the BBC are not guaranteed so BF can't necessarily take too long term a view, but I pesonally think BF would be better reducing outputover the next couple of years, maybe holding back some releases, rather than putting up prices at this time.
Just my thoughts.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Jul 19, 2022 20:42:49 GMT
Reflecting on this, I think the best business decision for BF in the current economic climate might be to reduce their monthly output rather than rise prices, i.e. going from 6-8 releases a month down to 2-4. I understand that BF's costs are gong up and they need more revenue to cover this, but I suspect the price rises will either backfire on them (reduced sales, more piracy) or else be a bit of a damp squib (very minor rises that don't make much difference at all). I find it hard to imagine that at least some of BF's customer won't cut back on their BF spending over the next 12 months, if they haven't already. They may buy less, stop buying altogether, do less pre-orders and more waiting for sales, or maybe even move to illegal downloads. And in any business, once regular customers break the habit and stop buying regularly, it is very hard to get them back. That's why I suspect these upcoming price rises may backfire on BF. BF may get a short term boost in October as people pre-order to beat the rises, but over the medium term price rises risk simply accelerating a potential trend towards spending less on BF. By contrast, reducing output would enable them to keep as any of their current customers as possible and, hopefully, a lot of those customers will still be on board in a couple of years' time when the economy settles down and output can increase again. I know there are issues of wanting to record as much as possible sooner rather than later with some of the older actors, and the fact that future license extensions from the BBC are not guaranteed so BF can't necessarily take too long term a view, but I pesonally think BF would be better reducing outputover the next couple of years, maybe holding back some releases, rather than putting up prices at this time. Just my thoughts. I haven't ordered anything this year - less due to prices, though rising costs are now a consideration, more due to my not having been impressed with releases over the past year and not having seen anything in the upcoming releases which grabbed my attention.
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Post by Ela on Aug 3, 2022 21:21:43 GMT
I came back to this thread to try to figure out what the scoop is on price increases.
I remain unenlightened.
I used to pre-order everything that I knew I would want to listen to eventually. But I've had less time to listen in recent years (partly because I no longer have a long commute to listen to audio stories). As a result I have a huge backlog of stories I pre-ordered and haven't listened to yet.
I've not pre-ordered everything I want in the last couple months because it gets very expensive and because I can order bundles (which up to now have per release pricing pretty close to the pre-order price per release). But if the price of bundles is also going up that may no longer be true.
I wish Big Finish would figure out how to make their price increases easier to understand.
Maybe they don't know themselves what the increases will be. Kind of sounds like it.
In the meantime, I guess I'll only order the things I really want right now and keep looking for announcements. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Aug 5, 2022 22:23:56 GMT
I came back to this thread to try to figure out what the scoop is on price increases. I remain unenlightened. I used to pre-order everything that I knew I would want to listen to eventually. But I've had less time to listen in recent years (partly because I no longer have a long commute to listen to audio stories). As a result I have a huge backlog of stories I pre-ordered and haven't listened to yet. I've not pre-ordered everything I want in the last couple months because it gets very expensive and because I can order bundles (which up to now have per release pricing pretty close to the pre-order price per release). But if the price of bundles is also going up that may no longer be true. I wish Big Finish would figure out how to make their price increases easier to understand. Maybe they don't know themselves what the increases will be. Kind of sounds like it.In the meantime, I guess I'll only order the things I really want right now and keep looking for announcements. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I think a lot of us think that, and that really should scare Big Finish. As usual the messages from them are muddled & mixed when the message needs to be clear, direct and with little room for confusion or misunderstanding.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Aug 6, 2022 2:24:01 GMT
I came back to this thread to try to figure out what the scoop is on price increases. I remain unenlightened. I used to pre-order everything that I knew I would want to listen to eventually. But I've had less time to listen in recent years (partly because I no longer have a long commute to listen to audio stories). As a result I have a huge backlog of stories I pre-ordered and haven't listened to yet. I've not pre-ordered everything I want in the last couple months because it gets very expensive and because I can order bundles (which up to now have per release pricing pretty close to the pre-order price per release). But if the price of bundles is also going up that may no longer be true. I wish Big Finish would figure out how to make their price increases easier to understand. Maybe they don't know themselves what the increases will be. Kind of sounds like it.In the meantime, I guess I'll only order the things I really want right now and keep looking for announcements. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I think a lot of us think that, and that really should scare Big Finish. As usual the messages from them are muddled & mixed when the message needs to be clear, direct and with little room for confusion or misunderstanding. Having written government communications at various points over the past 14 years, the BF communication policy makes even the most boneheaded government comms look reasonably well thought out. For the record, I'm in Canada, so I base that off my experience - British government comms are not being included as they've been far worse than anything BF has produced in recent years.
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Post by mark687 on Aug 6, 2022 10:18:32 GMT
Paul O'Grady's Avengers Guest Cast Press Release is the 1st one to mention it nearly Directly . Quote All the above prices include the special pre-order discount and are subject to change after general release. From November 2022, new pre-order prices will apply for unreleased box sets. This strategy of reminding people of what's been announced as coming and to get now without telling what the price increase will be is odd, surely its better to state Exactly what Early, Take the Flack, Justify and Move Forward rather then prolong awkward anticipation Regards mark687
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Post by timleschild on Aug 6, 2022 18:19:00 GMT
yes tell us price increase why can they not?
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Post by cwm on Aug 6, 2022 18:46:07 GMT
Given the current economic situation, I would imagine BF don't want to commit to new prices now in case they end up having to increase them again before they actually kick in.
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