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Post by Trace on Oct 19, 2016 0:09:25 GMT
It's quickly established that anyone who tries to speak up for her or call everyone else out on their bulls**t will get shut down while Maggie's supporters can get away with anything they want. The real victims here are Rhonda, who is trying to do her job in a case that is both very tricky and the subject of much attention from a mob mentality crowd, and justice. The few people who are thinking clearly are either shouted at or ignored. Rhonda tries to see it from Maggie's perspective, but Maggie is still unable to provide any clear answers beyond "get out the flaming torches and pitch forks and get the ogre", despite that very strategy resulting only in an innocent man being badly hurt by one of Maggie's supporters the previous night. Ok, but I have a real problem with vilifying Maggie. I see her as the all-time punching bag for the supernatural forces that plague Collinsport and Collinwood. Let's look at the YEARS of suffering, pain and death that she has endured, all because of supernatural beings! Can we say the same for Rhonda? No. So, let's cut Maggie some slack for inciting the mob. Of course it's wrong that the innocent get caught up in her vendetta, and I'm not excusing her for that--nor does she excuse herself. Maggie has experienced first-hand suffering from vampires, witches, warlocks, ghosts, demons, zombies, werewolves, curses, the angel of death, Diabolos, the Dark Lord, being buried alive, kidnapped, tortured, driven insane--twice, had a parent blinded and killed..... Need I go on?
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Post by barnabaslives on Oct 19, 2016 0:34:38 GMT
Agreed that Maggie's been through enough that any attitude she has toward monsters is probably understandable, but even then things happen that she didn't intend. Rhonda might have been a little more sympathetic to Maggie considering the probable number of Rhonda's predecessors who have met with supernatural fates, but I think ultimately anyone who isn't among the bad guys or girls in Bloodlust is probably a victim of, if nothing else, all the deception that's afoot.
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Post by omega on Oct 19, 2016 5:04:45 GMT
It's quickly established that anyone who tries to speak up for her or call everyone else out on their bulls**t will get shut down while Maggie's supporters can get away with anything they want. The real victims here are Rhonda, who is trying to do her job in a case that is both very tricky and the subject of much attention from a mob mentality crowd, and justice. The few people who are thinking clearly are either shouted at or ignored. Rhonda tries to see it from Maggie's perspective, but Maggie is still unable to provide any clear answers beyond "get out the flaming torches and pitch forks and get the ogre", despite that very strategy resulting only in an innocent man being badly hurt by one of Maggie's supporters the previous night. Ok, but I have a real problem with vilifying Maggie. I see her as the all-time punching bag for the supernatural forces that plague Collinsport and Collinwood. Let's look at the YEARS of suffering, pain and death that she has endured, all because of supernatural beings! Can we say the same for Rhonda? No. So, let's cut Maggie some slack for inciting the mob. Of course it's wrong that the innocent get caught up in her vendetta, and I'm not excusing her for that--nor does she excuse herself. Maggie has experienced first-hand suffering from vampires, witches, warlocks, ghosts, demons, zombies, werewolves, curses, the angel of death, Diabolos, the Dark Lord, being buried alive, kidnapped, tortured, driven insane--twice, had a parent blinded and killed..... Need I go on? I know Maggie is just as much a victim, indeed more so, as anyone else who has crossed paths with Collinsport, and I agree with her idea of fighting back in spirit but not the methods she's employing. As we see in the meeting in episode 6 (the one that leads to the confrontation at the cave and the beating of Trask), things quickly get out of her control and the town meeting in episode 7 show that despite her best intentions in forming the group the current conditions have forced it to become a lynch mob. Maggie is just as helpless as she was before to prevent what ends up happening, only she's now the unwitting spokesperson for the madness. The sound in the background during the more heated moments of the town meeting also give the impression there's a supernatural force encouraging the anger.
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Post by coldlazarou on Oct 19, 2016 10:10:53 GMT
'He who fights monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...' and all that. One of my favourite things about Bloodlust, and there are many and legion, is that it made my favourite DS character (sorry Barn, Quent and Angie - i loves youse guys too!) do some very questionable things. And understanding why someone does what they do isn't the same as condoning it. Man, that's needlessly philosophical for this time of the hangover... But yeah, i'd be up for - or down with, or whatever the youth parlance is these days - for a listen-through of seasons 1 and 2. It's been too long since i've heard them, really. I need my fix of that haunting piano score!
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Post by silverednickle on Oct 20, 2016 19:36:09 GMT
It was certainly interesting in Bloodlust how there were hints that made you think that something was behind Maggie, but really it was her realization of the responsible parties of all the bad things that happened in her life. Something similar happens to Hallie Stokes, though Hallie uses some rather different resources to control the situation. I know I initially suspected that Serif had planted something within his revelation to Maggie, and I thought it powerful that at the end, it was just the town's own hysteria.
I hope that we somehow see more of Count Petofi, even if he needs to use possession once more. He's too good of a villain to have burned in the fire at the artist's studio.
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Post by Rob Morris on Oct 20, 2016 21:09:32 GMT
Maggie certainly has been a punching bag for the forces of Collinsport, but that doesn't mean the results of her actions (which were designd to protect people and raise awareness) didn't have negative consequences.
That said, many events were engineered by someone with supernatural powers to an ultimate end so she isn't even entirely to blame for that.
But she certainly helped things along. Even unwittingly.
And that's one of the great things about Bloodlust - nice people doing unwittingly bad things for the right reasons. Just like life.
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Post by omega on Oct 20, 2016 23:40:28 GMT
Maggie certainly has been a punching bag for the forces of Collinsport, but that doesn't mean the results of her actions (which were designd to protect people and raise awareness) didn't have negative consequences. That said, many events were engineered by someone with supernatural powers to an ultimate end so she isn't even entirely to blame for that. But she certainly helped things along. Even unwittingly. And that's one of the great things about Bloodlust - nice people doing unwittingly bad things for the right reasons. Just like life. Why does it seem Collinsport is a rather apt place to apply the saying about the road to hell being paved with good intention?
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Post by Trace on Oct 21, 2016 1:23:17 GMT
And that's one of the great things about Bloodlust - nice people doing unwittingly bad things for the right reasons. Just like life. And bad people doing good things for the wrong reasons! DS has always been full of shades of gray.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 6:45:55 GMT
Doesn't stop anyone else starting, though! It'd be nice to have a proper Bloodlust discussion on this board now the BF one is dead. Bloodlust was a great experience and one I have listened to many times now.It recreated a hazy world for me gleaned from late night video streaming on the internet where I loved what I saw.Ithink it is one of those audios that delivers the past and a potential for the future with newer characters and story’s, while satisfying long term fans and newer ones like myself.I look forward to Bloodline immensely.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 8:24:26 GMT
It's quickly established that anyone who tries to speak up for her or call everyone else out on their bulls**t will get shut down while Maggie's supporters can get away with anything they want. The real victims here are Rhonda, who is trying to do her job in a case that is both very tricky and the subject of much attention from a mob mentality crowd, and justice. The few people who are thinking clearly are either shouted at or ignored. Rhonda tries to see it from Maggie's perspective, but Maggie is still unable to provide any clear answers beyond "get out the flaming torches and pitch forks and get the ogre", despite that very strategy resulting only in an innocent man being badly hurt by one of Maggie's supporters the previous night. Ok, but I have a real problem with vilifying Maggie. I see her as the all-time punching bag for the supernatural forces that plague Collinsport and Collinwood. Let's look at the YEARS of suffering, pain and death that she has endured, all because of supernatural beings! Can we say the same for Rhonda? No. So, let's cut Maggie some slack for inciting the mob. Of course it's wrong that the innocent get caught up in her vendetta, and I'm not excusing her for that--nor does she excuse herself. Maggie has experienced first-hand suffering from vampires, witches, warlocks, ghosts, demons, zombies, werewolves, curses, the angel of death, Diabolos, the Dark Lord, being buried alive, kidnapped, tortured, driven insane--twice, had a parent blinded and killed..... Need I go on? She should have a permanent seat at the bar of the Blue Whale...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 17:57:18 GMT
It’s friday dinner is on ,whisky is poured, feet are up and am going to listen to Bloodlust again...truthfully its blooming brilliant....(in my opinion of course)
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Post by bobod on Jul 27, 2018 18:08:08 GMT
If you've not heard them you should do the 1973 story arc. It's a fantastic set of stories. In a way a dummy run for Bloodlust - but interlinked tales each focusing on another character rather than a serial.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 18:18:10 GMT
If you've not heard them you should do the 1973 story arc. It's a fantastic set of stories. In a way a dummy run for Bloodlust - but interlinked tales each focusing on another character rather than a serial. I did House of Despair onwards and then Kingdom of the Dead too, very enjoyable now am just randomly picking out Cds to buy and enjoying them as they arrive am not getting hung up on chronology i just want at moment. Enjoyable tales and they certainly do that.its nice to Leave the Doctor and Blake and Poirot aside for a bit ,i really loved curse of the Pharoah and Crimson Pearl and Bloodlust has had many listens...
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Post by Zagreus on Jul 27, 2018 19:32:02 GMT
I'm still mad about Isaiah. I love his character, and I would dearly love a story that actually delved into his background. We were getting hints and teases... and then nothing. I still think he's the "main timeband" version of "the Minister" from House of Dark Shadows, but since that character got so little screen time, there's not a whole lot to go off of. Also since the 1970s stories seem to have dried up a bit, even though we know "Hartswood" has been the cemetery keeper since at least the events of Beyond the Grave, and assumedly earlier, we have no idea what he was actually up to in the decade between then and Kingdom of the Dead. Heck, for all we know, he's Tony Peterson's long lost father!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 19:35:43 GMT
I'm still mad about Isaiah. I love his character, and I would dearly love a story that actually delved into his background. We were getting hints and teases... and then nothing. I still think he's the "main timeband" version of "the Minister" from House of Dark Shadows, but since that character got so little screen time, there's not a whole lot to go off of. Also since the 1970s stories seem to have dried up a bit, even though we know "Hartswood" has been the cemetery keeper since at least the events of Beyond the Grave, and assumedly earlier, we have no idea what he was actually up to in the decade between then and Kingdom of the Dead. Heck, for all we know, he's Tony Peterson's long lost father! And you know am going to have to delve deeper into these characters lol
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Post by newt5996 on Jul 27, 2018 19:36:15 GMT
So I’m picking this up as my big finish purchase this go around. Is there anything I should know going in?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 19:54:08 GMT
So I’m picking this up as my big finish purchase this go around. Is there anything I should know going in? Am new to DS but i do love this one a lot...you need know nothing of the history of DS it does give enticing snippets but it is very self contained.Great writing and acting.Hope you enjoy
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Post by bobod on Jul 27, 2018 20:19:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 20:32:36 GMT
Yes eventually lol a good audio for me stands on its own and eventually i will do them in order am just enjoying immersing myself in the characters and the world of DS I’ve picked up a few things in my not in chronological order travels
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Post by bobod on Jul 27, 2018 22:27:26 GMT
They all stand on their own too.
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