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Post by timleschild on Aug 21, 2022 21:49:59 GMT
Don't care about where the content would go there are too many streaming services we the people can no longer afford & they don't offer value for money with minority of good shows seem to getting cancelled. And how are people going to access the new media? Physical media? Why are businesses going to take the gamble on an expensive (for them) process that might not bare fruit when they’re selling new product? Free to air TV? needs to make money before it can spend money to buy new product. Shite like Reality TV is cheaper to make and somehow still makes revenue. Their own streaming service? Businesses don’t need to pay for play, but equally don’t get paid to make it. Someone else’s streaming platform? Sure they’ll pay you for your product, but why should they when you control whether or not any more episodes get made, you control quality and at any time you could pull your product (C.F. Star Trek Discovery). People are turning away from Netflix in this age where we have less money so people will stick to free tv like BBC & probably increase in illegal download
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There’s a horror movie called Alien? That’s really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you.
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Post by shutupbanks on Aug 21, 2022 22:38:09 GMT
Check "JB Hifi"'s financials here in Oz, they are making records profits still on physical product, they are like "Amazon" here they have got a strangehold on the market. This is a hill I am willing to die on LOLZ
JB shifts a LOT of different things, white goods, merchandise, gaming paraphernalia… you can’t call it simply a physical media retailer. The white goods and appliances are only a comparatively recent development for JB: I couldn’t pin it down but it would be less than a decade. Sanity, another retailer of music and film in Australia, diversified into board games, jigsaws and other products during the pandemic (unlike JB, Sanity tends to rent shopfronts in malls and shopping centres where larger items would be impractical to move) which would suggest that the writing has been on the wall for a few years now.
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Post by Digi on Aug 21, 2022 23:55:17 GMT
And how are people going to access the new media? Physical media? Why are businesses going to take the gamble on an expensive (for them) process that might not bare fruit when they’re selling new product? Free to air TV? needs to make money before it can spend money to buy new product. Shite like Reality TV is cheaper to make and somehow still makes revenue. Their own streaming service? Businesses don’t need to pay for play, but equally don’t get paid to make it. Someone else’s streaming platform? Sure they’ll pay you for your product, but why should they when you control whether or not any more episodes get made, you control quality and at any time you could pull your product (C.F. Star Trek Discovery). People are turning away from Netflix in this age where we have less money so people will stick to free tv like BBC & probably increase in illegal download Offer valid only in UK
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Aug 22, 2022 0:07:38 GMT
JB shifts a LOT of different things, white goods, merchandise, gaming paraphernalia… you can’t call it simply a physical media retailer. The white goods and appliances are only a comparatively recent development for JB: I couldn’t pin it down but it would be less than a decade. Sanity, another retailer of music and film in Australia, diversified into board games, jigsaws and other products during the pandemic (unlike JB, Sanity tends to rent shopfronts in malls and shopping centres where larger items would be impractical to move) which would suggest that the writing has been on the wall for a few years now. Sanity used to be a great store about 15 years ago, Now I can't find one, there was a store in Adelaide 5 mins drive from my house at the big shopping mall complex, it's now a shoe shop. They do have an online ordering presence though. Try to find a book store besides "QBD Books" and a random "Angus & Robertsons". they have all closed up unfortunately .
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Aug 22, 2022 8:46:42 GMT
People are turning away from Netflix in this age where we have less money so people will stick to free tv like BBC & probably increase in illegal download Offer valid only in UK And with both the current administration and the DefundtheBBC goobs, even that's debatable for how long.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Aug 23, 2022 9:58:12 GMT
More animation gets cut, including Looney Tunes and the Matt Reeves Batman cartoon. variety.com/2022/tv/news/batman-caped-crusader-jj-abrams-hbo-max-cancel-1235347652/At least these ones can be taken somewhere else (according to other industry sources), but I am now convinced Zaslav lost any business acumen he had to coke or something else. On what planet do you let some of your most iconic and beloved properties, ones core to your very identity as a studio, go to your competitors?!
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Post by theillusiveman on Aug 23, 2022 10:29:55 GMT
if only according David Zaslav worked at Disney…
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Aug 23, 2022 10:37:00 GMT
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Post by grinch on Aug 23, 2022 10:40:01 GMT
This story just gets more and more intriguing.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Aug 23, 2022 22:12:36 GMT
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Post by Digi on Aug 24, 2022 0:27:37 GMT
Starting to feel like this WB guy is just on a kamikaze mission to make himself unemployable in the industry.
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Post by timleschild on Aug 24, 2022 5:47:16 GMT
if only according David Zaslav worked at Disney… Why?
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Post by Timelord007 on Aug 24, 2022 7:22:03 GMT
To much damage been done my friend but yeah he'd been awesome, at least Feloni/Favreau repaired some of the damage & as for Marvel they just churning out crap turning Thor & Hulk into comedic imbeciles.
I got a lot of respect for the guy I hope he cancels that Flash movie because Ezra Millers antics hardly define him as a role model & if what I read in spoilers true about Superman would pi.s me off bi1g time.
I have lot say about state of movies and TV shows but I'll keep them to myself as don't want offend people living in this Demolition Man style society but then again I gone past the point of not caring what people say or think of my opinions anymore, I lost 2 people I loved most in the world, I've endured the most horrific things a person can experience & battle m1ental illness every day & I'm still here so I can't be hurt or offended anymore because I simply couldn't care less.
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Post by Timelord007 on Aug 24, 2022 7:25:41 GMT
This guy has a plan long term, give me quality over quality any day of the week.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Aug 24, 2022 9:22:57 GMT
To much damage been done my friend but yeah he'd been awesome, at least Feloni/Favreau repaired some of the damage & as for Marvel they just churning out crap turning Thor & Hulk into comedic imbeciles. I got a lot of respect for the guy I hope he cancels that Flash movie because Ezra Millers antics hardly define him as a role model & if what I read in spoilers true about Superman would pi.s me off bi1g time. I have lot say about state of movies and TV shows but I'll keep them to myself as don't want offend people living in this Demolition Man style society but then again I gone past the point of not caring what people say or think of my opinions anymore, I lost 2 people I loved most in the world, I've endured the most horrific things a person can experience & battle m1ental illness every day & I'm still here so I can't be hurt or offended anymore because I simply couldn't care less. Timelord, I'm going to say this as nicely and fairly as I can because I know you've been through a lot and I'm not looking to start something.
You don't think any of these animators, crew, writers and directors who have lost these projects have mental health issues, or lost loved ones, or work in difficult and abusive conditions? You haven't seen young animators and designers on Twitter saying their careers are literally up in smoke right now, because of what Zaslav did, who can't get work because he took away their references and their proofs. They can't pay for their healthcare either thanks to him taking away what few residuals they got. Some have even said they're leaving the business because the pressure and stress is too high and what they get in return isn't cutting it. These people aren't millionaires, they're regular folk who often had to give up a lot to get this far, and now, it got taken away by a rich exec who used to make reality TV shows.
No really Timelord, Zaslav is a reality TV guy who made stuff like Honey Boo Boo and all those shows about crazy families with a million kids. You think that guy actually cares one fig about quality, a man whose TV career was built on taking the mick out of the clearly mentally unwell and poor? On exploiting them for people to laugh at? Whoever has told you he's some kind of hero or cares about DC is blowing up smoke up your jaxie. He's every crap thing, every souless and corporate thing, about Hollywood rolled into one guy.
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Post by thewatcher on Aug 24, 2022 10:14:30 GMT
To much damage been done my friend but yeah he'd been awesome, at least Feloni/Favreau repaired some of the damage & as for Marvel they just churning out crap turning Thor & Hulk into comedic imbeciles. I got a lot of respect for the guy I hope he cancels that Flash movie because Ezra Millers antics hardly define him as a role model & if what I read in spoilers true about Superman would pi.s me off bi1g time. I have lot say about state of movies and TV shows but I'll keep them to myself as don't want offend people living in this Demolition Man style society but then again I gone past the point of not caring what people say or think of my opinions anymore, I lost 2 people I loved most in the world, I've endured the most horrific things a person can experience & battle m1ental illness every day & I'm still here so I can't be hurt or offended anymore because I simply couldn't care less. Timelord, I'm going to say this as nicely and fairly as I can because I know you've been through a lot and I'm not looking to start something.
You don't think any of these animators, crew, writers and directors who have lost these projects have mental health issues, or lost loved ones, or work in difficult and abusive conditions? You haven't seen young animators and designers on Twitter saying their careers are literally up in smoke right now, because of what Zaslav did, who can't get work because he took away their references and their proofs. They can't pay for their healthcare either thanks to him taking away what few residuals they got. Some have even said they're leaving the business because the pressure and stress is too high and what they get in return isn't cutting it. These people aren't millionaires, they're regular folk who often had to give up a lot to get this far, and now, it got taken away by a rich exec who used to make reality TV shows.
No really Timelord, Zaslav is a reality TV guy who made stuff like Honey Boo Boo and all those shows about crazy families with a million kids. You think that guy actually cares one fig about quality, a man whose TV career was built on taking the mick out of the clearly mentally unwell and poor? On exploiting them for people to laugh at? Whoever has told you he's some kind of hero or cares about DC is blowing up smoke up your jaxie. He's every crap thing, every souless and corporate thing, about Hollywood rolled into one guy.
Very intelligent and well worded thank you there are human beings behind all this we need to think more.
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Post by thewatcher on Aug 24, 2022 10:16:32 GMT
To much damage been done my friend but yeah he'd been awesome, at least Feloni/Favreau repaired some of the damage & as for Marvel they just churning out crap turning Thor & Hulk into comedic imbeciles. I got a lot of respect for the guy I hope he cancels that Flash movie because Ezra Millers antics hardly define him as a role model & if what I read in spoilers true about Superman would pi.s me off bi1g time. I have lot say about state of movies and TV shows but I'll keep them to myself as don't want offend people living in this Demolition Man style society but then again I gone past the point of not caring what people say or think of my opinions anymore, I lost 2 people I loved most in the world, I've endured the most horrific things a person can experience & battle m1ental illness every day & I'm still here so I can't be hurt or offended anymore because I simply couldn't care less. Ezra Miller is horrible it seems but still please refer to them with correct pronouns.
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Post by Timelord007 on Aug 24, 2022 11:55:23 GMT
To much damage been done my friend but yeah he'd been awesome, at least Feloni/Favreau repaired some of the damage & as for Marvel they just churning out crap turning Thor & Hulk into comedic imbeciles. I got a lot of respect for the guy I hope he cancels that Flash movie because Ezra Millers antics hardly define him as a role model & if what I read in spoilers true about Superman would pi.s me off bi1g time. I have lot say about state of movies and TV shows but I'll keep them to myself as don't want offend people living in this Demolition Man style society but then again I gone past the point of not caring what people say or think of my opinions anymore, I lost 2 people I loved most in the world, I've endured the most horrific things a person can experience & battle m1ental illness every day & I'm still here so I can't be hurt or offended anymore because I simply couldn't care less. Timelord, I'm going to say this as nicely and fairly as I can because I know you've been through a lot and I'm not looking to start something.
You don't think any of these animators, crew, writers and directors who have lost these projects have mental health issues, or lost loved ones, or work in difficult and abusive conditions? You haven't seen young animators and designers on Twitter saying their careers are literally up in smoke right now, because of what Zaslav did, who can't get work because he took away their references and their proofs. They can't pay for their healthcare either thanks to him taking away what few residuals they got. Some have even said they're leaving the business because the pressure and stress is too high and what they get in return isn't cutting it. These people aren't millionaires, they're regular folk who often had to give up a lot to get this far, and now, it got taken away by a rich exec who used to make reality TV shows.
No really Timelord, Zaslav is a reality TV guy who made stuff like Honey Boo Boo and all those shows about crazy families with a million kids. You think that guy actually cares one fig about quality, a man whose TV career was built on taking the mick out of the clearly mentally unwell and poor? On exploiting them for people to laugh at? Whoever has told you he's some kind of hero or cares about DC is blowing up smoke up your jaxie. He's every crap thing, every souless and corporate thing, about Hollywood rolled into one guy.
What I read about him he has a 10 year plan for DC and wants to make quality movies & shows which I admire, however what you've pointed out especially taking pi.s out of mentally ill that angers the hell out of me because I've endured ignorance all my life for having mental illness so on that score he's scum. The way I perceived it was that he wanted to passionately turn DC around & make quality movies to rival Marvel with this 10 yr plan hence Batgirls cancellation as well as possibly The Flash movie, if that's not the cause then I sorely misjudged the situation, however it seems Marvel fare no better with how they treat there Visual FX teams. End of the day I just want quality well written shows & movies without the preachy1 messages I want be entertained not lectured which is why I prefer 80s movies because they were made with no agendas except to entertain I just like to feel excited about going see movies again which is what I thought this guy was bringing to the table, but from what you have said it doesn't seem to be the case.
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Post by Digi on Aug 24, 2022 18:52:34 GMT
Of all the stuff happening, this part is not remotely surprising. A director has no ownership of the film they make, they're a 'hired gun' for the studio, producing a product for the studio to sell, which then concludes their working relationship together until the next contract comes along.
If I come into a company on a contract basis, either finish the work or see the project canceled, and the contract is consequently then terminated, I have no right to go into the company servers to look at something I worked on. The working relationship has ended, I am no longer their employee, and I have no access to things I don't own. No different here.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Aug 24, 2022 20:30:15 GMT
Of all the stuff happening, this part is not remotely surprising. A director has no ownership of the film they make, they're a 'hired gun' for the studio, producing a product for the studio to sell, which then concludes their working relationship together until the next contract comes along.
If I come into a company on a contract basis, either finish the work or see the project canceled, and the contract is consequently then terminated, I have no right to go into the company servers to look at something I worked on. The working relationship has ended, I am no longer their employee, and I have no access to things I don't own. No different here.
True, an exception would probably (?) be Mel Gibsons' Passion Of The Christ movie? That's the closest I can think of to a director owning maybe.. Otherwise.. It's a job just like working in the fast food industry, u don't own the equipment inside etc.
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