Bill Murray, continued complaints from co-stars

There’s an interview with Arsenio Hall from around the time that he and Davis made Quick Change in which Murray is “horsing around” and really getting into Davis’s space. She is laughing it off but is clearly not comfortable with it. Honestly, Ghostbusters is like Ferris Bueller’s Day Off for me: a film I loved when it first came out and which, when watched as an adult, seems to be populated by entitled gits.

Murray has had some great PR working in his favour for ages but a range of “little” incidents appear to be resurfacing or are facing a lot of fresh investigation which doesn’t paint a very nice picture of him. I feel the same way towards Mel Gibson and, like martinw8686, Allen, Spacey and Polanski.

Not an actor, but Jeremy Clarkson is a performer I have disliked and avoided the work of since his suspension from Top Gear for assaulting a producer (his recent comments about Meghan Markle just confirmed that I was right to do so). Thomas Gibson was an actor I enjoyed in Dharma and Greg, and LOVED in Criminal Minds, but the (repeated) behaviour that got him fired from the latter pushed him off my “to watch” list.

I can tolerate petty or abrasive behaviour from people - William Shatner, for example, was egotistical and dismissive of his co-stars in Trek but that was in the service of his career/role in the show - but when it crosses into criminal or abusive behaviour towards other people, I tend to let them go. It hurts, but I’m a fan of so many people and franchises that I can cope with losing one occasionally.

Yes totally agree with Mel Gibson, that's another tricky one because growing up I enjoyed Mad Max and Lethal Weapon.

I'm also totally with you on Jeremy Clarkson, I find him to be an entitled bully, his politics are extremely questionable and he's got away with racism, homophobia and misogyny for far too long. His defenders will tell you his comments are made with humour and to complain is political correctness gone mad, the Megan Markle comments were way way too far. I read something a few weeks ago about Clarkson and Eddie Izzard that upset me, apparently Eddie Izzard was mentioned on Who Wants to be a Millionaire and Eddie now prefers to be known as "She", I believe she is identifying as a woman full time after previously having boy mode and girl mode, Clarkson made a crass comment about refering to Eddie as "it", I've read this story second hand but can quite believe Clarkson would be that intolerant.

I don't expect actors and TV personalities to be saints, but there are limits. I'd be a hypocrite not to mention that Tom Baker had a reputation for being difficult and upsetting co-stars and production members, it's nice to see him own it though and that he now has a much better working relationship with the team at Big Finish.

Time is a great leveller, I can forgive a lot if people can take responsibility for their actions and seek to be a better person going forward, some apologies are genuine (well outside of politics).
I hope one day J K Rowling can realise her views are outdated, intolerant and transphobic, I'd much rather she experience some personal growth than for her to remain the poster child for transphobia.

Of course there are actions that I believe to be irredeemable, step forward Woody Allen and Roman Polanski, I find it shocking that not so long ago many Hollywood actors lobbied on behalf of Polanski as if there had been a miscarriage of justice, he openly admits his sexual assault of a child.

Sorry I digress, I'm done watching Bill Murray. I may be able to watch Kevin Spacey in films like Baby Driver because he's not the star, it would be a shame to write off a wonderful film that was made before the public were aware of his sexual assaults. I do believe strongly that no one is above the law and that sometimes boycotting a performer is the best way to ensure there are consequences to unacceptable behaviour, unfortunately we live in a world where they elite few can use their finances to escape justice or get lesser sentences.

For me, the Bill Murray thing has tipped over from just being a jerk, the fact that Geena Davies still gets the shakes when recalling her encounters with him speaks volumes, I get really uncomfortable when I hear of men bullying women.

My Wife is terrified of her ex husband, they have to speak occasionally because of my step daughter, he's a manipulative bully with a cruel temper, he was never physically violent but he would shout at full volume right in her face and regularly make cruel and belittling comments, he presents totally different to the outside world and to this day my Wife feels vilified for leaving him. It troubles me that bullying can go under the radar in domestic and working life, it appears to me that Bill Murray and others like him have only recently had a light shone on to their unacceptable behaviour.

I guess at the end of the day it comes down to the individual how they feel about the behaviour of performers, I think the Bill Murray thing just touched a nerve with me, as I can see similarities to the way my wife's ex behaves.