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Post by acousticwolf on Jan 11, 2016 9:57:51 GMT
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Post by sexbombsimon on Jan 11, 2016 10:24:01 GMT
Finally, a Doctor Who release. Hooray.
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Post by Admin on Jan 11, 2016 12:02:32 GMT
indeed.
its good to have some actual tegan ness again
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 12:31:55 GMT
And she's given some great lines in this too. Very funny!
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jan 11, 2016 15:07:50 GMT
It's a lovely story that makes good use of its locations
V strong indeed.
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Post by mark687 on Jan 11, 2016 20:02:47 GMT
Cheers for the Thread Tony
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 21:04:40 GMT
I enjoyed this a lot. It meanders a little, but even after all these years, I'm still comparing what is achievable on audio to what was achievable on television in 1983. The budgetry restraints that limited the stories on television are not applicable here. I liked it all - the characters, the settings. As the review above states, Tegan has really undegone a change for the better with BF - and she is really funny. In fact, the relationship of the TARDIS trio is what gives this story much of its very successful humour.
The only thing that did irritate a little is the use of 'comedy' music during moments of witty dialogue. This is something that occurs a lot with Murray Gold's scores on the current show (especially the Christmas specials) and it is unneccessary. If something makes you smile, it makes you smile - and not because the score tells us it is funny.
That aside, this is good, spirited fun and a good start for the main range to kick off the new year.
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Post by mark687 on Jan 12, 2016 15:38:08 GMT
Now that was an excellent pusado-historical.
Top performances (particularly the TARDIS Team and Richard James as Rembrandt).
Really pacey yet at the same time subtle changes in direction.
Roll on Aquitaine.
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Post by elkawho on Jan 13, 2016 4:39:21 GMT
I loved this one. Tegan has sure grown on me with BF. I loved the grumpy Rembrandt and I thought Ryan was a good character to introduce us to in this one. I wouldn't be surprised if we see him again. Also, nice way to tie it to the Key To Time trilogy.
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Post by omega on Jan 13, 2016 4:47:31 GMT
I loved this one. Tegan has sure grown on me with BF. I loved the grumpy Rembrandt and I thought Ryan was a good character to introduce us to in this one. I wouldn't be surprised if we see him again. Also, nice way to tie it to the Key To Time trilogy. If you mean that bit at the end, Key 2 Time is stated to take place during the Fifth Doctor's travels with Peri, she's frozen in time while the Doctor locates and assembles the pieces. The errand the Doctor refers to at the end is the events of Omega, with The Burning Prince following that.
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Post by elkawho on Jan 13, 2016 4:50:22 GMT
I loved this one. Tegan has sure grown on me with BF. I loved the grumpy Rembrandt and I thought Ryan was a good character to introduce us to in this one. I wouldn't be surprised if we see him again. Also, nice way to tie it to the Key To Time trilogy. If you mean that bit at the end, Key 2 Time is stated to take place during the Fifth Doctor's travels with Peri, she's frozen in time while the Doctor locates and assembles the pieces. The errand the Doctor refers to at the end is the events of Omega, with The Burning Prince following that. Thanks, I did not remember correctly which excuse went with which companion(s). Thanks for the correction.
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Post by omega on Jan 13, 2016 5:00:18 GMT
If you mean that bit at the end, Key 2 Time is stated to take place during the Fifth Doctor's travels with Peri, she's frozen in time while the Doctor locates and assembles the pieces. The errand the Doctor refers to at the end is the events of Omega, with The Burning Prince following that. Thanks, I did not remember correctly which excuse went with which companion(s). Thanks for the correction. Thank you for not wanting to spank the Pedant in Me. It's a shame the only long-term audio original companion for the Fifth Doctor has been Erimem. Brewster only served as companion for a single story technically, and both Amy and Hannah were written out after one trilogy each (Amy at least got a spin-off in Graceless and Brewster got a Sixth Doctor trilogy and was one of The Three Companions). Is it too much trouble to have Nyssa at a conference, the Doctor goes off and picks up a new companion, has a bunch of adventures and they part ways before the Doctor returns to Nyssa? Why not stick the Fifth Doctor with Iris Wildthyme for a trilogy?
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Post by omega on Jan 13, 2016 5:07:02 GMT
A good, solid story. Nice to see Tegan's backstory filled in. Nyssa's conversation with Rembrandt was the highlight of the story for me. In some ways the format indicated where the plot was going, mainly when the Doctor agreed to convey the seemingly benevolent Countess to her home world halfway through episode three (the twist that she was the one to kill off her people was very Hand of Fear). There was a surprisingly casual approach to changing history, like the implications were an afterthought, and the wrong timeline was easily corrected. The Nix would have made a good comic strip alien.
A great set of extras, Peter, Janet and Sarah reminiscing about filming in Amsterdam and director Jamie Anderson talking about why he cast the actors in the story. It must have been the wettest, most gargly recording session since Dead Men's Tales from Jago & Litefoot!
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Post by omega on Jan 13, 2016 7:34:11 GMT
My favorite line has to be when Kyle says he's in Amsterdam to follow the Master, and the Doctor's spit take before the clarification that it's artwork, not the the renegade Time Lord.
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Post by kimalysong on Jan 13, 2016 11:44:52 GMT
I have not bought this one yet (yes I cherry pick the MR) but reading all your thoughts kind of makes me want it now. Darn all you people!
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Post by ausir on Jan 13, 2016 16:18:15 GMT
I liked the dialogue a lot, and Rembrandt was a fun contrast with Van Gogh, not caring about other people profiting from his art in the future, but more about his current debts.
I wasn't much of a fan of the TARDIS scanner detecting Kyle as 100% human, and then him turning out to be an android anyway.
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Post by constonks on Jan 13, 2016 19:43:25 GMT
I liked the dialogue a lot, and Rembrandt was a fun contrast with Van Gogh, not caring about other people profiting from his art in the future, but more about his current debts. I wasn't much of a fan of the TARDIS scanner detecting Kyle as 100% human, and then him turning out to be an android anyway. Nyssa pointed that out, though. The TARDIS said he was an android, the Doctor just lied about it so she wouldn't have to deceive Tegan.
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Post by mrperson on Jan 13, 2016 19:52:09 GMT
Quite enjoyable....
...though I do feel like the overall plot re: the alien's motivations and situation has been done many times before, albeit from slightly different angles.
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Post by omega on Jan 13, 2016 20:53:13 GMT
Quite enjoyable.... ...though I do feel like the overall plot re: the alien's motivations and situation has been done many times before, albeit from slightly different angles. I did note that it was similar to Hand of Fear in some ways. An alien being who first seems benevolent but turns out to the bad guy after all. The Countess even got to change history where Eldrad failed, with the State of Temporal Grace mentioned in both stories. The fact that the story seemed to draw to a conclusion in episode three gave the impression the Countess was not all she seemed.
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Post by relativetime on Jan 14, 2016 16:48:50 GMT
I can't say I was overly impressed with this release. I liked a lot of the dialogue, but I just couldn't get past the feeling that I've seen/heard other stories like this one. I don't think this release really did anything new or interesting, which I think is odd for Jonathan Morris, who usually writes some of the most interesting and distinguishable stories in the main range. This story just kind of felt like it could come from anyone.
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