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Post by masterdoctor on May 6, 2023 5:59:11 GMT
Thanks for the updates on Baxendale. Such a shame all this anti trans in the media in recent years. I don't understand why people can be so unkind and bigoted in this day and age. As far as I'm concerned the only thing that matters in life is kindness and people's health and well-being. Life is so short and can be cruel, there is no need for these TERFs to be so threatened and intolerant. I've just found out my Dad has stage 4 cancer, there's so many small concerns that really don't matter anymore when considering our short time on this Earth. I wouldn’t wish pain or loss on anyone but I would like to point out to the bigoted of this world that life is far too short for hate, be kind and offer validation to those you may not understand, if you cannot do that, then just keep your thoughts to yourself. All that being said, there are three other stories in the set and hopefully Baxendale won't get any further commissions now he's made his views known. Unless he changes his views and apologises, I certainly believe that people can make amends and redeem themselves. I'll probably buy the set as it's recorded so far in advance. I am Sorry to hear about your dad However I honestly don’t care about Trevrors views I only care about the stories he writes and the quality of the script I do feel that with the quality of the war master range he should hopefully write a good story for it It’s nice that you don’t have to worry and make your stand against the "woke" boogeyman, but trans people don’t get that luxury when they are being murdered for existing. |
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Post by nucleusofswarm on May 6, 2023 9:53:01 GMT
All that being said, there are three other stories in the set and hopefully Baxendale won't get any further commissions now he's made his views known. Unless he changes his views and apologises, I certainly believe that people can make amends and redeem themselves. I'll probably buy the set as it's recorded so far in advance. I am Sorry to hear about your dad However I honestly don’t care about Trevrors views I only care about the stories he writes and the quality of the script I do feel that with the quality of the war master range he should hopefully write a good story for it Dude, not the most tactful thing to say. More anti-trans laws have been in the US recently: In Florida alone, they just banned trans people from using public bathrooms, anywhere, as well as a law that can forcibly remove trans kids from their parents.
Don't think families living in fear right now are really comforted by 'well, at least this one British guy can write a script on an audio boxset'. Doubly not when we have members who have expressed those concerns here too.
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Post by martinw8686 on May 6, 2023 15:52:34 GMT
Thanks for the updates on Baxendale. Such a shame all this anti trans in the media in recent years. I don't understand why people can be so unkind and bigoted in this day and age. As far as I'm concerned the only thing that matters in life is kindness and people's health and well-being. Life is so short and can be cruel, there is no need for these TERFs to be so threatened and intolerant. I've just found out my Dad has stage 4 cancer, there's so many small concerns that really don't matter anymore when considering our short time on this Earth. I wouldn’t wish pain or loss on anyone but I would like to point out to the bigoted of this world that life is far too short for hate, be kind and offer validation to those you may not understand, if you cannot do that, then just keep your thoughts to yourself. All that being said, there are three other stories in the set and hopefully Baxendale won't get any further commissions now he's made his views known. Unless he changes his views and apologises, I certainly believe that people can make amends and redeem themselves. I'll probably buy the set as it's recorded so far in advance. I am Sorry to hear about your dad However I honestly don’t care about Trevrors views I only care about the stories he writes and the quality of the script I do feel that with the quality of the war master range he should hopefully write a good story for it It's a tricky one with Baxendale, from what I gather he's liked some tweets from a TERF/anti trans perspective. I certainly don't approve of this, but it's difficult to judge without giving him the chance to explain or clarify. Are there any links to Baxendale discussing his views or the posts he liked. I love the War Master range so will definitely buy this set but I do like to be informed of any controversy regarding writers and performers. For example now I'm aware of Dreyfus I will avoid anything he's involved in going forward. I can tolerate media involving people with a reputation for being a bit of an arsehole but not outright bigotry. |
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Post by Kestrel on May 10, 2023 10:58:21 GMT
It's a tricky one with Baxendale, from what I gather he's liked some tweets from a TERF/anti trans perspective. I certainly don't approve of this, but it's difficult to judge without giving him the chance to explain or clarify. Are there any links to Baxendale discussing his views or the posts he liked. I love the War Master range so will definitely buy this set but I do like to be informed of any controversy regarding writers and performers. For example now I'm aware of Dreyfus I will avoid anything he's involved in going forward. I can tolerate media involving people with a reputation for being a bit of an arsehole but not outright bigotry. I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt -- well, only to a reasonable extent -- and God knows I've certainly liked a few abhorrent tweets by accident. I like to think I've noticed the error in every case and swiftly corrected it, but I don't know for certain. So long as Baxendale has said anything himself, I'm disinclined to whip out the torches and pitchforks. But also the TERF radicalization pipeline is a very real thing, and only likely to be worse than ever now thanks to Musk boosting the visibility of the worst people on Twitter. It starts with liking transphobic tweets, then whining about about trans people bullying/harassing you online for politely pointing out said liked tweet(s) were bigoted, and before you know it you're attending rallies and giving speeches alongside Nazis and other white supremacists. We all saw it happen in real-time with JKR, like an avalanche. Which is to say -- I ain't gonna judge the man yet, but I'm also not gonna be even slightly surprised if he suddenly turns far-right. |
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Post by mark687 on May 30, 2023 13:17:19 GMT
Due Out Tuesday 6th June
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Post by mark687 on Jun 2, 2023 14:10:10 GMT
Cast and Crew Info has been Updated check the Product Page in the OP
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Post by martinw8686 on Jun 5, 2023 14:40:42 GMT
The War Master is a guaranteed pre order from me.
There used to be a few ranges I could say the same of but my view now is a range is only as strong as it's last release.
That's not to say I've found recent releases to be bad but to justify my spending I have to be buying for re-listen value.
So I mostly sit back and wait for the reviews to build up. But not with The War Master, Derek Jacobi is far too Masterful!
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Post by Kestrel on Jun 6, 2023 6:55:28 GMT
The War Master is a guaranteed pre order from me. There used to be a few ranges I could say the same of but my view now is a range is only as strong as it's last release. That's not to say I've found recent releases to be bad but to justify my spending I have to be buying for re-listen value. So I mostly sit back and wait for the reviews to build up. But not with The War Master, Derek Jacobi is far too Masterful! I'm in a similar spot. I'm on wait-for-reviews for pretty much everything, with only a few exceptions. My reasoning for the exceptions is a bit different, though: basically, I think there are only a handful of performers that (IME) can elevate a lackluster script to still make it entertaining. Right now that list is just Derek Jacobi, Paul McGann, and Lisa Bowerman. Which isn't a slight against the other performers at all... I love Michelle Gomez, for example, but even she couldn't salvage that last Missy set. |
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Post by mark687 on Jun 6, 2023 8:44:42 GMT
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Post by martinw8686 on Jun 6, 2023 12:29:35 GMT
The War Master is a guaranteed pre order from me. There used to be a few ranges I could say the same of but my view now is a range is only as strong as it's last release. That's not to say I've found recent releases to be bad but to justify my spending I have to be buying for re-listen value. So I mostly sit back and wait for the reviews to build up. But not with The War Master, Derek Jacobi is far too Masterful! I'm in a similar spot. I'm on wait-for-reviews for pretty much everything, with only a few exceptions. My reasoning for the exceptions is a bit different, though: basically, I think there are only a handful of performers that (IME) can elevate a lackluster script to still make it entertaining. Right now that list is just Derek Jacobi, Paul McGann, and Lisa Bowerman. Which isn't a slight against the other performers at all... I love Michelle Gomez, for example, but even she couldn't salvage that last Missy set. I totally agree, some performers are just so immense that they're always a joy to listen to. Derek Jacobi is top of that list for me. John Hurt was another, I hugely enjoyed his 4 War Doctor sets, mostly based on how compelling an actor he was. Some of those stories were fantastic in their own right but John really elevated the lesser ones. Paul Mcgann is another, although I feel his Doctor has been relegated to the background more often lately due to ensemble casts. Tom Baker is a sensation, I always hope his releases will be well reviewed. He's usually brilliant (at nearly 90!) but recently I've found the 4DAs a bit average. I loved the E-Space set series 9 boxsets and Blood of the Timelords/The Ravencliffe Witch but everything else recently has been 3/5. |
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Post by mbt66 on Jun 6, 2023 21:30:39 GMT
This is the first War Master set I haven’t pre-ordered.
I find Derek Jacobi absolutely terrifying at times and I don’t know if I want to put myself through anymore. At least not at the moment.
I hope he appears in the Once and Future sets. At least in those I will have the Doctor to shine a light when things get dark.
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Post by Kestrel on Jun 7, 2023 1:55:17 GMT
John Hurt was another, I hugely enjoyed his 4 War Doctor sets, mostly based on how compelling an actor he was. Some of those stories were fantastic in their own right but John really elevated the lesser ones. Oh yeah, 1000%. I adored the War Doctor sets. It's a shame we only got the four, but also we're incredibly fortunate to have gotten four whole sets! And if we're including actors who've passed, John Hurt is definitely on my list, along with David Warner, Maggie Stables and Jacqueline Pearce. The latter, especially, was fantastic as Ollistra -- I don't think the WD range would be even half as good with not for her. Oh yeah, McGann's great. I think we are a bit overdue for a shakeup of that TARDIS team, though. Would love to see some more solo stories, too. That last Peladon Story with him was incredible. |
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Post by martinw8686 on Jun 7, 2023 16:55:27 GMT
I'm 2 episodes in, and as usual this is brilliant.
Episode 2 is 10/10, pretty much a 2 hander with The Master at sea with Jason Flemying's Captain, it manages to be both intimate and epic.
I love this range so much, I could listen to hundreds of War Master stories and still want more.
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Post by shallacatop on Jun 7, 2023 17:13:58 GMT
Yeah, there’s something special about this range isn’t there? It’s been formulaic since at least the sixth set, following the same beats. This set is no different; a very broad arc, two hander stories which involve the Master pretending he’s good to inevitably get the final reveal, etc. And two stories in, this set is yet another hypnotic instalment! Looking forward to listening to the remaining two.
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Post by tuigirl on Jun 7, 2023 18:46:21 GMT
You guys convinced me.
I was not going to get this, but since everything on my reading pile on my Kindle is either horror or ant books, I can as well listen to some gruesome character horror audios.
I am just looking for something special to grab my attention.
And my attention is bad- right now, I am basically reading 5 different books all at once.....
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Post by Chakoteya on Jun 8, 2023 10:39:57 GMT
Okay - pedant nit-pick coming up.
Dear BF web page writer - so which is it? The Drane Institute as in the overall box set blurb or the Crane Institute as in story 4 blurb?
Loving it so far - Sir Derek's voice is just so... nicely menacing, and the ideas the writers come up with are 'straight' out of an Escher painting... (with a touch of Heironymous Bosch.)
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Post by shallacatop on Jun 8, 2023 13:46:53 GMT
I loved The Life and Loves of Mr Alexander Bennett. Again, it's identical to the type of story done in this range at least half a dozen times over - the War Master infiltrates someone's life, manipulates them and utterly destroys them come the end. And yet it's still gripping. Great concept to use the Master as a home assistant, a la Siri or Alexa, and very well executed. Aside from the Jo & Nyssa re-encounters, it's probably the most evil this incarnation has been since The Persistence of Dreams back in The Master of Callous.
The Kicker I wasn't too sure on. I didn't dislike it, but didn't love it either. It never really seemed to come together for me. I had a similar issue with The Last Line in Self-Defence, which shares a similar format to Solitary Confinement; the arc doesn't feel overriding enough to really *get* its purpose. I'm sure it's nothing a relisten won't rectify.
Another great set. You know the format, you know the story beats and you know the Master emerges victorious, it's this range's bread and butter, and it never once stops being enjoyable. I do think set 11 onwards will give us something vastly different, but I look forward to the end of the Handcock run this December and yet another chilling performance from Derek Jacobi.
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Post by sherlock on Jun 10, 2023 15:52:42 GMT
The Walls of Absence
Well if you ever wanted Jacobi reprising his role as Yana, this is the closest thing to it. With Sian Phillips opposite it’s a compelling listen.
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Post by jbatty8 on Jun 10, 2023 21:11:23 GMT
I have to unfortunately disagree, and yes, I love the War Master usually, but I'm halfway through The Long Despair, and that's how I feel.
I can't believe how bored I am. I'm reticent to finish it.
The first story took ages to get anywhere and repeated previous sets as all you are waiting for is the moment he shows himself for who he is. It's been done before (and better).
Are stories 3 and 4 really any better?
I'm struggling a lot with BF at the moment, I'm not sure what's wrong with me. I've gone into a big negative spiral I've not had with them before, and I've been buying since the very start.
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Post by mark687 on Jun 10, 2023 21:26:04 GMT
I have to unfortunately disagree, and yes, I love the War Master usually, but I'm halfway through The Long Despair, and that's how I feel. I can't believe how bored I am. I'm reticent to finish it. The first story took ages to get anywhere and repeated previous sets as all you are waiting for is the moment he shows himself for who he is. It's been done before (and better). Are stories 3 and 4 really any better? I'm struggling a lot with BF at the moment, I'm not sure what's wrong with me. I've gone into a big negative spiral I've not had with them before, and I've been buying since the very start. I'd take a break from the set and come back to it later then. Regards mark687 |
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