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Post by martinw8686 on Oct 11, 2023 11:37:33 GMT
I've been really impressed with most of the Big Finish recasts, the 3DAs in particular.
The efforts to recreate the authenticity of the era are wonderful. Its such fun getting full cast adventures with the Third Doctor, Brigadier, Liz, Jo and Sarah Jane.
For me the icing on the cake would be the return of Delgado's Master. Due to his tragic death, that story arc is sadly unfinished. It would be an instant pre order for me to hear 3 and the Master together again. Perhaps even some Master stories featuring the 2nd Doctor.
What do we think? I see no harm in this further recast, given we have a range that is pretty close to being exclusively recast, with the exception of the lovely Katy Manning.
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Post by shallacatop on Oct 11, 2023 12:21:19 GMT
I wouldn’t be opposed to it, but I don’t feel like he’s a glaring omission either, he was utilised a lot on screen during the Pertwee era and his lack of use in the audios makes it feel less like UNIT are bumping into him every other week. I did like his background usage in Volume 2 of the 3DAs.
It’s worth noting they have recast Delgado of sorts with Jon Culshaw. His Time Lord Victorious Short Trips seemed like a more concentrated effort to give the Master a voice compared to other STs. And he makes a cameo in Series 9 of The Diary of River Song; not that you can really tell he’s meant to be the Delgado Master!
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Post by bonehead on Oct 11, 2023 14:10:22 GMT
Having learned my lesson about not wanting anyone recast, and then being blown away by Tim Treloar's version of The Third Doctor (as well as subsequent recasts), I wouldn't mind a recast Delgado Master. Nor indeed an Ainley one. Strangely, I'm not sure Jon Culshaw is an ideal candidate. So many of his impressions are spot on, but I found both of his brief turns as The Master haven't quite 'got it'. Not that any actor needs to sound exactly like whomever they arey are playing, but they should have the essence of character. For Delgado and Ainley, I'm not sure who would be upto that.
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Post by masterdoctor on Oct 12, 2023 16:34:37 GMT
I would be happy for it. I think that having some full-cast 3 vs The Master stories would be great, and Big Finish hasn't ever given me a reason not to trust that they will handle a recast with delicacy and grace.
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Post by grinch on Oct 12, 2023 17:32:32 GMT
I’d honestly be fine with it. As long as they capture the spirit of the character I’m not too bothered by recasts.
If anything, I’m a little surprised we haven’t had any Series 8 stories yet. They’ve certainly teased the Delgado Master enough across the various releases.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Oct 12, 2023 17:40:16 GMT
As I recall, back on the old BF forums somebody claimed that Jon Pertwee wanted stage Doctor Trevor Martin, a supporting actor in the 90s radio shows, to be a post-Delgado Master. But BF didn't take up that opportunity when they adapted Seven Keys to Doomsday. So maybe skip the Master in the 3DAs?
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Post by nardole on Oct 12, 2023 19:15:49 GMT
Could always do pre crispy beevers too
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Post by timleschild on Oct 12, 2023 19:29:00 GMT
Not needed tbh but Jonathon Carley did a good version of Delgado Master in a fan made audio.
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Post by Kestrel on Oct 19, 2023 3:44:55 GMT
By himself, I'm not really feeling the need to (ever) revisit the Delgado Master... but his absence in the 3DAs is very keenly felt. I imagine Big Finish'll recase him whenever they feel the need to bolster the 3DA range's sales.
I know, for my part at least, that's the kind of thing I'd pre-order no-questions-asked.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Oct 19, 2023 16:09:40 GMT
I'd honestly prefer them to leave Delgado alone and maybe just do another Incarnation. Either a new one between Delgado and Beevers or just a Pre-Crispy Beevers
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Post by jacobz40 on Oct 19, 2023 17:58:35 GMT
I'd be delighted by a Delgado recast. Fun opportunity to do stories with Treloar or something more outside the box. Must say, however, that I'd rather they not go with Jon Culshaw for Delgado. I think his Ainley is absolute perfection, but I feel like spreading the roles around would be more interesting - he has so many already!
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Post by Kestrel on Oct 20, 2023 2:51:04 GMT
I'd honestly prefer them to leave Delgado alone and maybe just do another Incarnation. Either a new one between Delgado and Beevers or just a Pre-Crispy Beevers Undercooked Beevers? Uncooked Beevers? Ooh! How about Raw Beevers. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2023 3:36:33 GMT
Culshaw for a 3DA, sure.
Like recasting the first 3 Docs, there are some stories that just work better with a certain incarnation. Delgado's Master can't just be subbed for Jacobi. For when BF are doing their "It's teatime in 19XX..." then you need something close to what we all know from the era. So in this case? Recast.
Tragedy what happened but Roger died 50 years ago.
For other Master stories? They have different options. For faithful Pertwee era ones? This incarnation is vital and frankly the more 3DAs without him, the odder it seems since The Master was SO important to it all.
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Post by number13 on Jan 25, 2024 0:37:07 GMT
I'm still catching up on old threads...
If you'd asked me this question ten years ago I'd have said: No. He was the Master, the original and the best.
But now, with my Doctor sharing new adventures with Sarah and the Brigadier and all sounding so extremely good, I'd say yes please!
He is THE Master and they should recast him. (However, the bar for a recast is set very high by the quality of the other actors. If done, it needs to be done near-perfectly.)
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Post by theillusiveman on Jan 25, 2024 7:45:56 GMT
I'm still catching up on old threads...
If you'd asked me this question ten years ago I'd have said: No. He was the Master, the original and the best.
But now, with my Doctor sharing new adventures with Sarah and the Brigadier and all sounding so extremely good, I'd say yes please!
He is THE Master and they should recast him. (However, the bar for a recast is set very high by the quality of the other actors. If done, it needs to be done near-perfectly.)
Well to be fair he has been played by Jon culshaw and sadly his Delgardo isn’t great so if he was replaced by another actor that sounds close to Roger Delgardo vocally I would be on board 100 percent |
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Post by number13 on Jan 25, 2024 10:02:15 GMT
I'm still catching up on old threads...
If you'd asked me this question ten years ago I'd have said: No. He was the Master, the original and the best.
But now, with my Doctor sharing new adventures with Sarah and the Brigadier and all sounding so extremely good, I'd say yes please!
He is THE Master and they should recast him. (However, the bar for a recast is set very high by the quality of the other actors. If done, it needs to be done near-perfectly.)
Well to be fair he has been played by Jon culshaw and sadly his Delgardo isn’t great so if he was replaced by another actor that sounds close to Roger Delgardo vocally I would be on board 100 percent Have I missed something huge or do you mean in the Short Trip? I heard that and I agree, but story readings are different in what we expect; one actor reading a story and interpreting all the characters isn't like someone being cast in a major role in a play. |
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Post by theillusiveman on Jan 28, 2024 2:13:37 GMT
Well to be fair he has been played by Jon culshaw and sadly his Delgardo isn’t great so if he was replaced by another actor that sounds close to Roger Delgardo vocally I would be on board 100 percent Have I missed something huge or do you mean in the Short Trip? I heard that and I agree, but story readings are different in what we expect; one actor reading a story and interpreting all the characters isn't like someone being cast in a major role in a play. Spoilers (that’s the hint) there was a full cast appearance of the delgardo master played by Jon culshaw |
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Post by mbt66 on Jan 28, 2024 10:23:34 GMT
I would like Sarah Jane to meet the Master, and I would also like a story with the Third Doctor where the Delgardo Master regenerates.
If it was a few years back I would be asking for it to be the Beevers Master, but perhaps Big Finish should try again to create a new incarnation for audio.
However, I wonder if the restrictions on Unbound Doctors also applies to new versions of the Master?
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Post by number13 on Jan 28, 2024 11:25:25 GMT
Have I missed something huge or do you mean in the Short Trip? I heard that and I agree, but story readings are different in what we expect; one actor reading a story and interpreting all the characters isn't like someone being cast in a major role in a play. Spoilers (that’s the hint) there was a full cast appearance of the delgardo master played by Jon culshaw Ah - thanks, I'm a few releases behind on 'River Song' and didn't know about this. Definitely some catching up to do. |
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Post by mark687 on Jan 28, 2024 13:47:07 GMT
Spoilers (that’s the hint) there was a full cast appearance of the delgardo master played by Jon culshaw Ah - thanks, I'm a few releases behind on 'River Song' and didn't know about this. Definitely some catching up to do. Diary Series 9 completely standalone and ideal for you in particular  Regards mark687 |
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